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harry wrote:
> They have no big stake in bogus PR construction of a "reputation", just
> total disclosure for the benefit of users.
> Thats their motivation for publishing this news as widely as possible.
> Whats yours Max ?

He is only trying to help

> harry scribbled:

>> "Max Burke" wrote in message
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
>> Some Debian Project machines compromised
>>
>> November 21st, 2003
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Some Debian Project machines have been compromised This is a very
>> unfortunate incident to report about. Some Debian servers were
>> found to have been compromised in the last 24 hours.

> Its quite candid isn't it ?
> They have had a password compromised and they follow their commitment
> to disclosure and then fixed it.
> The Debian Project depends on transparency of testing and
> verification. Packages have to meet strict criteria and bug testing
> targets before they progress from "unstable" to "testing" and finally
> to the current "stable" release.

Who *exactly* is claiming they dont do all of the above Harry?

> They have no big stake in bogus PR construction of a "reputation",
> just total disclosure for the benefit of users.

WTF??????

> Thats their motivation for publishing this news as widely as possible.
> Whats yours Max ?


Lets discuss why you believe I need to have some sort of 'motivation' for
posting this information/news item......
I'm not 'motivated' WRT to computer OS'es like you are Harry; Do try to
remember that......

Anyone who tells you, or tries to convince you that their favorite operating
system is somehow immune to market forces, human error, and plain malice, is
doing both you and the operating system they espouse a disservice.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013/5



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Max Burke wrote:
>> harry scribbled:
>
>>> "Max Burke" wrote in message
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
>>> Some Debian Project machines compromised
>>>
>>> November 21st, 2003
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Some Debian Project machines have been compromised This is a very
>>> unfortunate incident to report about. Some Debian servers were
>>> found to have been compromised in the last 24 hours.
>
>> Its quite candid isn't it ?
>> They have had a password compromised and they follow their commitment
>> to disclosure and then fixed it.
>> The Debian Project depends on transparency of testing and
>> verification. Packages have to meet strict criteria and bug testing
>> targets before they progress from "unstable" to "testing" and finally
>> to the current "stable" release.
>
> Who *exactly* is claiming they dont do all of the above Harry?
>
>> They have no big stake in bogus PR construction of a "reputation",
>> just total disclosure for the benefit of users.
>
> WTF??????
>
>> Thats their motivation for publishing this news as widely as
>> possible. Whats yours Max ?
>
>
> Lets discuss why you believe I need to have some sort of 'motivation'
> for posting this information/news item......
> I'm not 'motivated' WRT to computer OS'es like you are Harry; Do try
> to remember that......


Who me ? I'm posting from Outlook Express on XP (fixed up with OE-Quotefix)
next to my equally acceptable Debian Gnome 2.4 xfree86 4.3.0 box.
What is your experience with Debian Max ? :-p

> harry scribbled:

>> Max Burke wrote:
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>>>> The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
>>>> Some Debian Project machines compromised
>>>>
>>>> November 21st, 2003
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>>>> Some Debian Project machines have been compromised This is a very
>>>> unfortunate incident to report about. Some Debian servers were
>>>> found to have been compromised in the last 24 hours.

> They have no big stake in bogus PR construction of a "reputation",
> just total disclosure for the benefit of users.

>> WTF??????

> Thats their motivation for publishing this news as widely as
> possible. Whats yours Max ?


>> Lets discuss why you believe I need to have some sort of 'motivation'
>> for posting this information/news item......
>> I'm not 'motivated' WRT to computer OS'es like you are Harry; Do try
>> to remember that......

> Who me ? I'm posting from Outlook Express on XP (fixed up with
> OE-Quotefix) next to my equally acceptable Debian Gnome 2.4 xfree86
> 4.3.0 box.

Again WTF????

> What is your experience with Debian Max ? :-p


Personal experience?
Nil.

But then, I have have never had any problem with the idea that having an
interested in something doesn't [always] require participation in that
'something' to justify the interest....

You, on the other hand......

Anyone who tells you, or tries to convince you that their favorite operating
system is somehow immune to market forces, human error, and plain malice, is
doing both you and the operating system they espouse a disservice.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013/5

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In article <UPyvb.8954$>, says...
>
> "Max Burke" <mlvburke@%$%#@.nz> wrote in message
> news:Cxuvb.8895$...
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
> > Some Debian Project machines compromised
> >
> > November 21st, 2003
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Some Debian Project machines have been compromised This is a very
> > unfortunate incident to report about. Some Debian servers were found to
> > have been compromised in the last 24 hours.
> >
> > The archive is not affected by this compromise!
> > In particular the following machines have been affected:
> >
> > master (Bug Tracking System)
> > murphy (mailing lists)
> > gluck (web, cvs)
> > klecker (security, non-us, web search, www-master)
> >
> > Some of these services are currently not available as the machines undergo
> > close inspection. Some services have been moved to other machines
> > (www.debian.org for example). The security archive will be verified from
> > trusted sources before it will become available again.
> >
> > Please note that we have recently prepared a new point release for Debian
> > GNU/Linux 3.0 (woody), release 3.0r2. While it has not been announced
> yet,
> > it has been pushed to our mirrors already. The announcement was scheduled
> > for this morning but had to be postponed. This update has now been checked
> > and it is not affected by the compromise.
> >
> > We apologise for the disruptions of some services over the next few days.
> > We are working on restoring the services and verifying the content of our
> > archives.
> > http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/files/f...y-20031121.txt
> > --
> > mlvburke@#%&*.net.nz
> > Replace the obvious with paradise to email me.
> > See Found Images at:
> > http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~mlvburke/
> >
>
> Its quite candid isn't it ?
> They have had a password compromised and they follow their commitment to
> disclosure and then fixed it.
> The Debian Project depends on transparency of testing and verification.
> Packages have to meet strict criteria and bug testing targets before they
> progress from "unstable" to "testing" and finally to the current "stable"
> release.
> They have no big stake in bogus PR construction of a "reputation", just
> total disclosure for the benefit of users.
> Thats their motivation for publishing this news as widely as possible.
> Whats yours Max ?

It's pretty obvious, he is the pro MS troll, just as there are pro Mac
and Pro linux trolls, all equally obnoxious political types

In article <YBAvb.8970$>, mlvburke@%$%# says...
> > harry scribbled:
>
> >> "Max Burke" wrote in message
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
> >> Some Debian Project machines compromised
> >>
> >> November 21st, 2003
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Some Debian Project machines have been compromised This is a very
> >> unfortunate incident to report about. Some Debian servers were
> >> found to have been compromised in the last 24 hours.
>
> > Its quite candid isn't it ?
> > They have had a password compromised and they follow their commitment
> > to disclosure and then fixed it.
> > The Debian Project depends on transparency of testing and
> > verification. Packages have to meet strict criteria and bug testing
> > targets before they progress from "unstable" to "testing" and finally
> > to the current "stable" release.
>
> Who *exactly* is claiming they dont do all of the above Harry?
>
> > They have no big stake in bogus PR construction of a "reputation",
> > just total disclosure for the benefit of users.
>
> WTF??????
>
> > Thats their motivation for publishing this news as widely as possible.
> > Whats yours Max ?
>
>
> Lets discuss why you believe I need to have some sort of 'motivation' for
> posting this information/news item......
> I'm not 'motivated' WRT to computer OS'es like you are Harry; Do try to
> remember that......
>
> Anyone who tells you, or tries to convince you that their favorite operating
> system is somehow immune to market forces, human error, and plain malice, is
> doing both you and the operating system they espouse a disservice.
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20030124S0013/5

And let me guess, your favourite OS is Windows, yet you never post
anything at all about Windows' deficiencies