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I thought that Checksun was the Agent here but they don't even list Abit..


I thought that Andrew might know, if they have this version..


http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/mothe...YPE=Socket+478

Checksun dont do Abit anymore, These boards are available in NZ though
When you say "this version" what other versions are there? or did you just
mean IS7-E

New layout - What did they look like before?

"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
news:...
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> I thought that Checksun was the Agent here but they don't even list Abit..
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> I thought that Andrew might know, if they have this version..
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http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/mothe...php?pMODEL_NAM
E=IS7-E&fMTYPE=Socket+478
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:50:25 +1300, "Andrew" <> wrote:

>Checksun dont do Abit anymore, These boards are available in NZ though
>When you say "this version" what other versions are there? or did you just
>mean IS7-E
>
>New layout - What did they look like before?

Here is a Pic..

http://www.abit-korea.co.kr/?this_in=item&seq=100

Same as the IS7 with the IDE connectors down at the bottom, but the Picture
that Abit now shows has the Old plastic Fan, but with the IDE connectors up
next to the ram sockets..

THe OZZ agent called it a Rev 2 board when I asked..



The Current imported boards are like the IS7 but with the New Metal Fan and
its a rev 1.12

But no one has seen this version of mobo that Abit lists on the Global/US web
sites..



>"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
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>> I thought that Checksun was the Agent here but they don't even list Abit..
>>
>>
>> I thought that Andrew might know, if they have this version..
>>
>>
>>
>http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/mothe...php?pMODEL_NAM
>E=IS7-E&fMTYPE=Socket+478
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>

I will see if i can get a photo of the ones in NZ
"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:50:25 +1300, "Andrew" <> wrote:
>
> >Checksun dont do Abit anymore, These boards are available in NZ though
> >When you say "this version" what other versions are there? or did you
just
> >mean IS7-E
> >
> >New layout - What did they look like before?
>
> Here is a Pic..
>
> http://www.abit-korea.co.kr/?this_in=item&seq=100
>
> Same as the IS7 with the IDE connectors down at the bottom, but the
Picture
> that Abit now shows has the Old plastic Fan, but with the IDE connectors
up
> next to the ram sockets..
>
> THe OZZ agent called it a Rev 2 board when I asked..
>
>
>
> The Current imported boards are like the IS7 but with the New Metal Fan
and
> its a rev 1.12
>
> But no one has seen this version of mobo that Abit lists on the Global/US
web
> sites..
>
>
>
> >"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought that Checksun was the Agent here but they don't even list
Abit..
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought that Andrew might know, if they have this version..
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/mothe....php?pMODEL_NA
M
> >E=IS7-E&fMTYPE=Socket+478
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

> Same as the IS7 with the IDE connectors down at the bottom, but the
Picture
> that Abit now shows has the Old plastic Fan, but with the IDE connectors
up
> next to the ram sockets..
>
> THe OZZ agent called it a Rev 2 board when I asked..
>
>
>
> The Current imported boards are like the IS7 but with the New Metal Fan
and
> its a rev 1.12
>
> But no one has seen this version of mobo that Abit lists on the Global/US
web
> sites..

NZ definatly have Metal fan versions with the IDE connectors at the bottom
rather then by the Memory slots

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:47 +1300, "Andrew" <> wrote:

>
>> Same as the IS7 with the IDE connectors down at the bottom, but the
>Picture
>> that Abit now shows has the Old plastic Fan, but with the IDE connectors
>up
>> next to the ram sockets..
>>
>> THe OZZ agent called it a Rev 2 board when I asked..
>>
>>
>>
>> The Current imported boards are like the IS7 but with the New Metal Fan
>and
>> its a rev 1.12
>>
>> But no one has seen this version of mobo that Abit lists on the Global/US
>web
>> sites..
>
>NZ definatly have Metal fan versions with the IDE connectors at the bottom
>rather then by the Memory slots
>



Yes from what I have found out and from previous Pictures on the Abit web
sites, that is the Older version, the US web site use to show that version but
has since changed it to what is on the Global web site.

Even the Abit site does not have a PDF manual that matched the listed layout.

I did contact and he stated that they would be getting
the Rev 2 boards.


I have a feeling that, that version of MoBo was never ever made, its a utter
Con as you can't buy what is advertised..


The main reason in licking it, it over clocks well, and is a Fast card, has
PAT, plus has a descent chipset fan and a space for fitting Large 3D cards
with out loosing a PCI slot and a 4 phase power supply and full support of
all the USB connectors.

I looked at the Asus equivalent, (P4P800) No chipset Fan, you loose a PCI
slot, only a 3 Phase PSU and only sorts 4 USB, you have to buy a USB plate
plus it cost a lot more for less.


Other options are the AI7 here, seems to be every ware but here..?


And the Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro2


What I would really like is a MoBo with a separate IDE controller, ie None
Raid, MSI used to make one Gigabyte does but the MoBo it up in the $4xx
price range..

The Albatron list a board with a IDE raid controller, Albatron PX865PE Pro II

but from what I can find out the Raid controller can only be use as a Raid
controller, not like what the Gigabyte can do, this is funny because Albatron
is a part clone of Gigabyte.

That is why I was going for a Abit IS7-E and fitting a Promise controller
card to it..

Yes I have 5 and more IDE devises and I find that it better to have the Hard
Drives on a separate controller.


Mind you if I could get decent SATA to IDE adaptors that might even be a
option..

Careful of the gigabyte ones.

You cannot boot from a SATA drive on the ICH5 southbridge unless you map it
over the top of the primary or seconday IDE channels. On the expensive
boards that's ok, cause there is also the IDE RAID controller which can be
used in non-RAID mode. But on the cheaper boards with no add on controllers,
it means you can only have 4 drives if you want to boot from SATA.
Apparently the next BIOS is gonna fix it up.

The Gigabyte 8KNXP is a good board. Hasn't died on me like my three Abit
IC7-Gs did There is another model like the 8KNXP, i forget the model
number but the only differences are the extra 3 phase power thing which does
nothing, and it doesn't say it meets VRM 10.0 voltage standards. However,
if you can get your hands on it, it should only cost around $359. I went to
get one for myself, but they were out of stock so i got the 8KNXP. It may be
listed as having 100mb LAN, but the one i got in to sell to a customer had
CSA bus 1GB LAN. It has 4 SATA channels (2 on ICH5R, 2 on Silicon image
controller) and 4 IDE ports, 2 normals and 2 on a ITE RAID controller. It
also works in normal IDE mode.

Steve

"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:47 +1300, "Andrew" <> wrote:
>
> Yes from what I have found out and from previous Pictures on the Abit web
> sites, that is the Older version, the US web site use to show that version
but
> has since changed it to what is on the Global web site.
>
> Even the Abit site does not have a PDF manual that matched the listed
layout.
>
> I did contact and he stated that they would be
getting
> the Rev 2 boards.
>
>
> I have a feeling that, that version of MoBo was never ever made, its a
utter
> Con as you can't buy what is advertised..
>
>
> The main reason in licking it, it over clocks well, and is a Fast card,
has
> PAT, plus has a descent chipset fan and a space for fitting Large 3D
cards
> with out loosing a PCI slot and a 4 phase power supply and full support
of
> all the USB connectors.
>
> I looked at the Asus equivalent, (P4P800) No chipset Fan, you loose a PCI
> slot, only a 3 Phase PSU and only sorts 4 USB, you have to buy a USB
plate
> plus it cost a lot more for less.
>
>
> Other options are the AI7 here, seems to be every ware but here..?
>
>
> And the Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro2
>
>
> What I would really like is a MoBo with a separate IDE controller, ie None
> Raid, MSI used to make one Gigabyte does but the MoBo it up in the $4xx
> price range..
>
> The Albatron list a board with a IDE raid controller, Albatron PX865PE Pro
II
>
> but from what I can find out the Raid controller can only be use as a Raid
> controller, not like what the Gigabyte can do, this is funny because
Albatron
> is a part clone of Gigabyte.
>
> That is why I was going for a Abit IS7-E and fitting a Promise controller
> card to it..
>
> Yes I have 5 and more IDE devises and I find that it better to have the
Hard
> Drives on a separate controller.
>
>
> Mind you if I could get decent SATA to IDE adaptors that might even be a
> option..
>

> Other options are the AI7 here, seems to be every ware but here..?
>

I have spoken to the Abit supplier about this board about a week ago, Abits
shipment to NZ was already in the works before the AI7 was released, So they
wont get here until the next shipment.

Shipments generally arrive via boat so they do take a while, so the AI7 will
be at least a month away

Andrew

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:04:54 +1300, "Stephen Williams" <>
wrote:

>Careful of the gigabyte ones.
>
>You cannot boot from a SATA drive on the ICH5 southbridge unless you map it
>over the top of the primary or seconday IDE channels. On the expensive
>boards that's ok, cause there is also the IDE RAID controller which can be
>used in non-RAID mode. But on the cheaper boards with no add on controllers,
>it means you can only have 4 drives if you want to boot from SATA.
>Apparently the next BIOS is gonna fix it up.
>
>The Gigabyte 8KNXP is a good board. Hasn't died on me like my three Abit
>IC7-Gs did There is another model like the 8KNXP, i forget the model
>number but the only differences are the extra 3 phase power thing which does
>nothing, and it doesn't say it meets VRM 10.0 voltage standards. However,
>if you can get your hands on it, it should only cost around $359. I went to
>get one for myself, but they were out of stock so i got the 8KNXP. It may be
>listed as having 100mb LAN, but the one i got in to sell to a customer had
>CSA bus 1GB LAN. It has 4 SATA channels (2 on ICH5R, 2 on Silicon image
>controller) and 4 IDE ports, 2 normals and 2 on a ITE RAID controller. It
>also works in normal IDE mode.
>
>Steve



Hi thanks


Is this the one you are referring to GIGABYTE GA-8I875 Ultra

Seems to do what I want, but have not seen it for $359inc or was that a none
inc price..? the lowest I have seen is around $366inc.

It seems to be the same as the GA-8KNXP but with out the Extra PSU, the manual
that I just dnloaded covers both of these models..

I was going for a cheaper board and put a Promise controller in it.


>"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:47 +1300, "Andrew" <> wrote:
>>
>> Yes from what I have found out and from previous Pictures on the Abit web
>> sites, that is the Older version, the US web site use to show that version
>but
>> has since changed it to what is on the Global web site.
>>
>> Even the Abit site does not have a PDF manual that matched the listed
>layout.
>>
>> I did contact and he stated that they would be
>getting
>> the Rev 2 boards.
>>
>>
>> I have a feeling that, that version of MoBo was never ever made, its a
>utter
>> Con as you can't buy what is advertised..
>>
>>
>> The main reason in licking it, it over clocks well, and is a Fast card,
>has
>> PAT, plus has a descent chipset fan and a space for fitting Large 3D
>cards
>> with out loosing a PCI slot and a 4 phase power supply and full support
>of
>> all the USB connectors.
>>
>> I looked at the Asus equivalent, (P4P800) No chipset Fan, you loose a PCI
>> slot, only a 3 Phase PSU and only sorts 4 USB, you have to buy a USB
>plate
>> plus it cost a lot more for less.
>>
>>
>> Other options are the AI7 here, seems to be every ware but here..?
>>
>>
>> And the Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro2
>>
>>
>> What I would really like is a MoBo with a separate IDE controller, ie None
>> Raid, MSI used to make one Gigabyte does but the MoBo it up in the $4xx
>> price range..
>>
>> The Albatron list a board with a IDE raid controller, Albatron PX865PE Pro
>II
>>
>> but from what I can find out the Raid controller can only be use as a Raid
>> controller, not like what the Gigabyte can do, this is funny because
>Albatron
>> is a part clone of Gigabyte.
>>
>> That is why I was going for a Abit IS7-E and fitting a Promise controller
>> card to it..
>>
>> Yes I have 5 and more IDE devises and I find that it better to have the
>Hard
>> Drives on a separate controller.
>>
>>
>> Mind you if I could get decent SATA to IDE adaptors that might even be a
>> option..
>>
>

"Gregory Parker" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi thanks
>
>
> Is this the one you are referring to GIGABYTE GA-8I875 Ultra
>
> Seems to do what I want, but have not seen it for $359inc or was that a
none
> inc price..? the lowest I have seen is around $366inc.
>
> It seems to be the same as the GA-8KNXP but with out the Extra PSU, the
manual
> that I just dnloaded covers both of these models..
>
> I was going for a cheaper board and put a Promise controller in it.
>

Yeah that's the board. The 8KNXP box also states "Featuring new VRM10.0
specifications with more precise voltage readings and ready for future
coming processor." So it may or may not support prescott. The 8I875 Ultra
makes no mention of any such specifications.

I suppose $366 is about right, $359 was a guess as i can get them wholesale
through the place i work, but have only ever sold one to a customer who was
a friend so he got it a bit cheaper.

FYI the 8KNXP overclocks ok. I have a 2.4c doing 3GHz with stock voltage and
stock fan. Never had a problem once the board was finally set up.

Steve