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      08-07-2003
back again wrote:

> Does anyone here use software to load balance between several people
> sharing the same jetstart connection (in a flatting situation for
> example), so that each machine gets a slice of whatever bandwidth is
> available, and no one gets to hog the lot?


I don't think it would be worth trying to enforce a load balancing/traffic
prioritising system unless one user is a heavy downloader and the other
isn't but wants responsive surfing.

It would get quite complicated: eg prioritise http traffic over ftp and p2p
unless the http is a big file etc etc

>
> How about load balancing two jetstream connections to several people?


I reckon that would be pretty hard to achieve a fluid solution that
optimally utilises the bandwidth of both connections (especially with
something like Jetstart). But you might be able to hack something together.

I haven't used it, but alt-q on OpenBSD (I think Free/NetBSD also have it)
might be able to do what you want - at least with one connection.

You might also be able to hack together a NAT box with two interfaces that
can decide which interface to send stuff in or out on.

Cheers
Anton
 
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      08-07-2003
In article <bgtpgh$rhf19$>, Jay wrote...
> So until proper broadband arrives in NZ
> use two modems.
>
>

Proper broadband in Australia now being constrained by "Commercial
viability" http://tinyurl.com/jcj4
 
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      08-07-2003

"colinco" <> wrote in message
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> In article <bgtpgh$rhf19$>, Jay wrote...
> > So until proper broadband arrives in NZ
> > use two modems.
> >
> >

> Proper broadband in Australia now being constrained by "Commercial
> viability" http://tinyurl.com/jcj4


TELSTRA'S ADSL network will be capped at just over 1000 exchanges, with any
future expansion dependent on the commercial viability of each new location
activated.

Telstra executives told a Senate committee hearing in Melbourne that the
current network of 967 ADSL-enabled exchanges could support only an
additional 100,000 customers.
They told the inquiry there were 250,000 ADSL customers Australia-wide, with
130,000 directly signed up to Telstra.

"This is bad news," Labor IT spokeswoman Kate Lundy said. "In the context of
eventually achieving universal broadband we are so far from that ... it is a
lot worse than I thought."

Telstra will measure demand for each exchange via a soon-to-be-established
ADSL demand register.

The Telstra executives told the committee each ADSL-enabled exchange was
provisioned to a maximum of seven to eight per cent.

Telstra is planning a limited expansion, with an additional 30 to 40
exchanges to be ADSL-enabled in the near future.

After that, exchanges will be brought online as they become commercially
viable.

The executive declined to identify the number of customers needed for
commercial viability.

A Telstra spokeswoman said the number of customers necessary varied
depending on the size of the exchange.





 
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timmy!
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      08-08-2003
> Sharing a 128kbps between two people gives you not much
> better than two 56kbps modems. So until proper broadband arrives in NZ
> use two modems.


Jay that has got to be the most stupid answer I have heard of.
Tie up to phone lines and cost about the same as jetstart, stupid...

I've seen flats with 4-5 computers all running off one jetstart account
quite nicely.
Reduces costs and gives everybody always on net access.


"Jay" <> wrote in message
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> back again wrote:
>
> > Does anyone here use software to load balance between several people
> > sharing the same jetstart connection (in a flatting situation for
> > example), so that each machine gets a slice of whatever bandwidth is
> > available, and no one gets to hog the lot?
> >
> > How about load balancing two jetstream connections to several people?
> >
> > I'm interested in hearing about Windows or Linux/BSD/whatever solutions.

>
> Sharing a 128kbps between two people gives you not much
> better than two 56kbps modems. So until proper broadband arrives in NZ
> use two modems.
>



 
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timmy!
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      08-08-2003
it's not a great sollution but under windows there is a program called
bandwidth controller.

http://www.bandwidthcontroller.com

It will at least allow you to at least place some limits on how much of the
bandwidth each computer can use.
hence it will at least allow other users to surf at the same time.
Unfortunately tho it's pretty static in that respect, say you have three
users you would have to split the bandwidth three ways, ie each user gets
42kbit/s of the jetstart (128kbit/s). It won't allow you to dynamically
allocate the majority of the bandwidth to whoever is needing it. which is
probably what u really want...

linux methinks..


"back again" <> wrote in message
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> Does anyone here use software to load balance between several people
> sharing the same jetstart connection (in a flatting situation for

example),
> so that each machine gets a slice of whatever bandwidth is available, and
> no one gets to hog the lot?
>
> How about load balancing two jetstream connections to several people?
>
> I'm interested in hearing about Windows or Linux/BSD/whatever solutions.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark



 
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      08-08-2003
back again allegedly said:

> Does anyone here use software to load balance between several people
> sharing the same jetstart connection (in a flatting situation for
> example), so that each machine gets a slice of whatever bandwidth is
> available, and no one gets to hog the lot?
>
> How about load balancing two jetstream connections to several people?
>
> I'm interested in hearing about Windows or Linux/BSD/whatever solutions.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark


Linux will do this by default.

Traffic is queued and shared equally if there are several, simultaneous
streams of data flowing from different sources.

Use a caching proxy (included, free - like Linux itself) and cut down on the
traffic leaving your house/office/flat.
 
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Nicholas Sherlock
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      08-08-2003
"Who is this" <> wrote in message
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> In article <>,
> (Robyn Nunn) wrote:
>
>
> > Don't forget the data caps for Jetstarter. With 2+ people it won't
> > take too long to use up 5 or 10GB of international data.

>
> Why, even with 200Mb+ of system updates I don't often break the 1G cap


Scary! . I could only use that little if I didn't download anything, used
a text-only webbrowser, didn't check my email and didn't post to newsgroups.

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock


 
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      08-08-2003
Trouser <> wrote in news:3f32b429
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> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ipcop-user


I'll check it out - thanks.
 
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max barwell
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      08-09-2003
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 14:50:26 +0000, back again wrote:

> Does anyone here use software to load balance between several people
> sharing the same jetstart connection (in a flatting situation for example),
> so that each machine gets a slice of whatever bandwidth is available, and
> no one gets to hog the lot?
>
> How about load balancing two jetstream connections to several people?
>
> I'm interested in hearing about Windows or Linux/BSD/whatever solutions.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark


This can be done using Linux, although I have not done it myself, I do
however happily share a jetstart connection using a linux firewall/router,
that also runs the squid caching proxy.

Anyway, read the Advanced Routing Howto on www.tldp.org:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routin...rtc.qdisc.html

It's quite complicated, but it can be done...

As for two connections, shared those amongst multiple clients

again, TLDP is your friend:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routin...ple-links.html

and:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routin...loadshare.html


Regards max

 
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