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IRO
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      07-30-2003
In article <who->,
Who is this <> wrote:

> Well I am setting up an adddress with something like Qz34rrrxtu55jololo@
> etc etc etc so that dictionary searches will not stumble across it.


Surely an address like would be just as difficult for a bot to stumble over but easy for your
contacts to enter in their address books without errors.

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IRO
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      07-30-2003
In article <>, Joe <> wrote:

> Looking at your address and your reply comment, I think it'll
> be earlier than you think!

I'm hoping that the < >< > will slow the buggers down, but if too much
crud does start to turn up, a quick email to Paradise and iro.spring is
dog-tucker.

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Bruce Simpson
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      07-30-2003
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:46:12 +1200, Ian Orchard
<> wrote:

>In article <bg57bp$k8tof$>,
> Jay <> wrote:
>
>> Who is this wrote:
>>
>> > I give up, spam has finally made email unuseable.

>>
>> It is fairly easy to change you email address.
>> Do that, and do hand it out to anyone you don't trust.

>
>
>I've set up an alias with Paradise for use on UseNet and other
>situations where spammers harvesting bots may spot it. About December,
>or whenever the spam starts to arrive, I'll just delete it and set up a
>new one.


I use several strategies:

1. I have a contact form which I use for the purposes of accepting
emails from people I don't know. This protects my email address while
still making it easy for people to send me messages.

2. I have a free email address at yahoo.com which I use whenever I
have to provide a "valid" address to someone or organisation that I
don't trust.

3. I have a main email address which I only give out to thise I trust.
This address gets *tonnes* of spam but it doesn't worry me. Yahoo's
spam filters catch much of it and I've set up my own rules to catch
most of the rest.

4. The people who handle my incoming email (2day.com -- free plug for
a service I find very useful) have email filtering that catches around
95% of the spam that does come in.

These methods cover most of the bases and allow me to keep the spam on
my main account to a manageable level. I guess I now see no more than
one or two spams a day in my intray.

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Nicholas Sherlock
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      08-01-2003
"IRO" <> wrote in message
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> In article <iro.spring->,
> IRO <> wrote:
>
> > > Looking at your address and your reply comment, I think it'll
> > > be earlier than you think!

> > I'm hoping that the < >< > will slow the buggers down, but if too much
> > crud does start to turn up, a quick email to Paradise and iro.spring is
> > dog-tucker.

>
> Having said that, I got my first unsolicited email to that address
> yesterday. Within a week. It's not strictly spam, some turkey sent me
> along with 74 other benighted souls a warning about a Micro$oft security
> update applicable to Win 9x/Me/2000/NT/XP,


Yup, it's a virus. Automatically sent.

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock


 
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IRO
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      08-01-2003
In article <bgcnh1$11n$>,
"Nicholas Sherlock" <> wrote:

> > Having said that, I got my first unsolicited email to that address
> > yesterday. Within a week. It's not strictly spam, some turkey sent me
> > along with 74 other benighted souls a warning about a Micro$oft security
> > update applicable to Win 9x/Me/2000/NT/XP,

>
> Yup, it's a virus. Automatically sent.


The puzzle is how the address below got converted back to a genuine
email address. Don't these Microsoft viruses raid their victim's address
books and fire off replicas to the victim's contacts, with spoofed
'senders' also derived from the address book?

Whoever the original victim is, why did he bother un-munging my address?


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      08-01-2003

"IRO" <> wrote in message
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> In article <bgcnh1$11n$>,
> "Nicholas Sherlock" <> wrote:
>
> > > Having said that, I got my first unsolicited email to that address
> > > yesterday. Within a week. It's not strictly spam, some turkey sent me
> > > along with 74 other benighted souls a warning about a Micro$oft

security
> > > update applicable to Win 9x/Me/2000/NT/XP,

> >
> > Yup, it's a virus. Automatically sent.

>
> The puzzle is how the address below got converted back to a genuine
> email address. Don't these Microsoft viruses raid their victim's address
> books and fire off replicas to the victim's contacts, with spoofed
> 'senders' also derived from the address book?
>
> Whoever the original victim is, why did he bother un-munging my address?
>


Probably to put you in their address book


 
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Mark Harris
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      08-03-2003
On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:22:30 +1200, IRO
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>Oh BUGGER!! My news app had details toggled off and I wasn't seeing the
>address parked at the top. Never mind, as I said. if the spam starts to
>build up, the address goes....
>

Not a bad plan.

>Got another virus from the same (or a similar) source today. I wonder if
>any of the other 72 people on the To: list collected a copy as well.
>
>This one is entitled "Fwd: Try this pack from Microsoft" with a payload
>"q379971.zip"
>

I get 5 or 6 of those a week. Just ignore anything with an executable,
even if you do recognise who it seems to be coming from. Mac users
used to be immune but you never know when a bad hat with an anti-mac
bias will strike...

cheers

mark
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      11-21-2003
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:22:32 +1000, Jay wrote:

> It is fairly easy to change you email address. Do that, and do hand it out
> to anyone you don't trust.


And don't put it into Outlook, don't put it into Netscape, don't use a
short email address - much too easy to crack by random posts based on the
alphabet.

And NEVER use it on Usenet, and NEVER publish it on a website!

Lennier

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