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lily
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      07-29-2003

"Lennier" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:54:51 +1200, lily wrote:
>
> >> USB support landed with the 2.5.x kernel.

> >
> > 2.4

>
> I thought that only partial support landed with 2.4 kernel.
>
> I believe that full USB 2.0 support is included with the 2.6 kernel.
>
> Is this correct?


Linux supports USB 2.0 with the usb-ehci kernel module.

Two aliases may be created in /etc/modules.conf to configure USB support:
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd

alias usb-controller1 usb-uhci


It is back ported to 2.4.20


 
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      07-30-2003
Tim wrote:
> Jay <> wrote in
> news:bg4nbh$if1ub$:
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>>Nicholas Sherlock wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Lennier" <> wrote in message
>>>newsan.2003.07.28.09.13.31.894386@TRACKER.. .
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:35:59 +1200, Nicholas Sherlock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I understand that an ISP assigns IP numbers dynamically to dialup
>>>>>>users. But I thought that ASDL connections were assigned
>>>>>>permanent IP numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IS this not the case?
>>>>>
>>>>>Changes every time you reset your router, and when you get
>>>>>disconnected, unless you pay extra for a truly static IP address.
>>>>
>>>>Please tell me more...
>>>>
>>>>What is involved? what does it cost?
>>>
>>>I did a little search, and can no longer find any mention of being
>>>able to get a static IP address on any of the ISPs websites I
>>>checked. Sorry
>>>

>>
>>You didn't search very far!
>>
>>Try this:
>>
>>http://www.google.com/search?q=%22st....nz&btnG=Googl
>>e+Search

>
>
> Nicholas is referring to Jetstream Starter there - static IP's are not
> allowed on that service.
>

Why not use a service like https://www.dyndns.org lets me get in to my
server while on the run also http://www.www-hosts.net alow a my one of
my sub domains to point to DynDns and so I can then rember my servers
address the only thing i had to run on my server was a clyent on it that
logs it into DynDns hay presto

Just my $0:05

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      07-30-2003
RecylerMan <> wrote in
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> Tim wrote:
>> Jay <> wrote in
>> news:bg4nbh$if1ub$:
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>>
>>>Nicholas Sherlock wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Lennier" <> wrote in message
>>>>newsan.2003.07.28.09.13.31.894386@TRACKER. ..
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:35:59 +1200, Nicholas Sherlock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I understand that an ISP assigns IP numbers dynamically to dialup
>>>>>>>users. But I thought that ASDL connections were assigned
>>>>>>>permanent IP numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>IS this not the case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Changes every time you reset your router, and when you get
>>>>>>disconnected, unless you pay extra for a truly static IP address.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please tell me more...
>>>>>
>>>>>What is involved? what does it cost?
>>>>
>>>>I did a little search, and can no longer find any mention of being
>>>>able to get a static IP address on any of the ISPs websites I
>>>>checked. Sorry
>>>>
>>>
>>>You didn't search very far!
>>>
>>>Try this:
>>>
>>>http://www.google.com/search?q=%22st...o.nz&btnG=Goog
>>>l e+Search

>>
>>
>> Nicholas is referring to Jetstream Starter there - static IP's are
>> not allowed on that service.
>>

> Why not use a service like https://www.dyndns.org lets me get in to my
> server while on the run also http://www.www-hosts.net alow a my one of
> my sub domains to point to DynDns and so I can then rember my servers
> address the only thing i had to run on my server was a clyent on it
> that logs it into DynDns hay presto
>
> Just my $0:05
>
> and I am using Ultra with Ihug on a e-smith distrbution


That does work - I do it myself. I have a dyndns address, and a
subdomain on my domain has a CNAME record pointing to my dyndns address.

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Enkidu
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      07-30-2003
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:51:55 GMT, (Mark Harris)
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>On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:17:29 +1200, Enkidu <> wrote:
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>>On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:41:27 GMT, (Mark Harris)
>>wrote:

>
>[snip]
>>>IIRC, if the www and secure 4LDs are accessible to the outside world,
>>>they need "real" IP addresses.
>>>

>>No, they can be "aliases" or CNAMEs.
>>

>ah, yes. Good point. I had not thought about CNAMEs. But would they be
>appropriate in the scenario that Lennier supplied?
>

There is a question as to whether or not CNAMEs are **ever**
justified! You could have multiple A records with the same IP address.

>[snip]>>
>>>Your subdomains could be part of the same computer, but would need
>>>separate public IP addresses.
>>>

>>No, they can be the same. Or they can be different.
>>

>Okay, point taken <runs to "TCP/IP for Dummies" to refresh memory>
>

The three things that can be used to distinguish between multiple web
sites on the same IP address (hence the same server) are IP address,
port number,and host header address. Any two can be the same

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      11-21-2003
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:17:24 +1200, Muzz wrote:

> Smoothwall is picky about which ADSL modems it supports - especially
> internal modems, and forget about USB. It would pay to check this out
> before purchasing your modem.


Yeah - Smoothwall 1.x does not support USB devices as it uses a 2.2.x
kernel.

USB support landed with the 2.5.x kernel.

Lennier

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      11-21-2003
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:14:15 +1000, Jay wrote:

>> Besides all this... what about the idea of having a ".home" subdomain to
>> complement the ".co" and ".org" and ".net" etc subdomains in NZ that are
>> already available?

>
> Since you'll probably need a business account how about .biz?


Given that I was talking about domestic use, and given that NZ already has
".co" for commercial use don't you think that ".biz" is redundant?

Is it really not possible to be assigned a static IP from one's ISP and
register a domain with some registrar somewhere, and get that domain
pointing to one's static IP number?

Lennier


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      11-21-2003
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:54:51 +1200, lily wrote:

>> USB support landed with the 2.5.x kernel.

>
> 2.4


I thought that only partial support landed with 2.4 kernel.

I believe that full USB 2.0 support is included with the 2.6 kernel.

Is this correct?

Lennier

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      11-21-2003
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:46:34 +1000, Jay wrote:

>> You can have your own Domain Name right now. I do, and it's easy,
>> especially if you don't want to host the actual website and mail
>> yourself.

>
> Of course you can. But that wasn't what I was saying. The op was
> obviously wanting to have a .home domain so he could run own domain
> locally. Not pointing to an external hosting site.


If, for example, I had a domain name "my-surname.home.nz", and IF I had a
static IP address, I could point the DNS entry at the static IP address
and could then run my own email servers, my own webserver, my own
colaboration server, and my own DNS server - and have people who were
outside of my own LAN be able to look at my webserver (provided, of
course, that it was not within my firewall) and also send me email direct
to my own email server.

That way I would no longer have to rely on my ISP's servers, and would
even be able to host email for other people.

Wouldn't this be true if I had a static IP address, and a registered
domain name which pointed to my static IP address?

Besides all this... what about the idea of having a ".home" subdomain to
complement the ".co" and ".org" and ".net" etc subdomains in NZ that are
already available?

Lennier


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      11-21-2003
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:46:14 +1000, Jay wrote:

>> Is it really not possible to be assigned a static IP from one's ISP and
>> register a domain with some registrar somewhere, and get that domain
>> pointing to one's static IP number?

>
> A domain must have an IP address.
> When you buy a domain you get IP address(es). Normally when you sign up
> to an ISP you get an IP address that belongs to the ISPs domain.


Um...

I thought that ISPs owned IP numbers which they can assign either
dynamically or permanently.

I thought that anyone can own a domain - not just ISPs, and that the
person or organization who owns said domain also operates the DNS server
that is authoritative for that domain and which knows the IP numbers that
correspond with the sub-domains registered in it's domain.

I also thought that one is supposed to tell the Registrar of one's domain
name what IP number one wants the DNS server to point to when it receives
a lookup request; and as such one can register a domain such as
<insertnamehere>.com.au and have it pointing to an IP number owned by Xtra
or Ihug or some other outfit.

I thought that this is how one can register a domain name, and get one's
email hosted somewhere - anywhere - using that domain name.

Is this not the case?

Lennier

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Lennier
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      11-21-2003
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:22:41 +1200, Enkidu wrote:

> This is true. But one Domain Name may have several IPs associated with
> it. www.goober.co.nz may have one IP address goober.co.nz itself may
> have another (for mail) and maybe secure.goober.co.nz might have another
> IP address.


I thought that in the above cases the domain goober.co.nz would also have
a DNS server which would point to the IP numbers for the www.goober.co.nz
and the secure.goober.co.nz domains - which are subdomains of the domain
goober.co.nz - all of which could be assigned to the same physical computer.

IS this not the case?

Lennier


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