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Hi

Was wondering if anyone knows if there's a known problem with HP Vectra VLi8
computers in regards to failing to shutdown properly.

I've been trying to resolve an issue with one belonging to a family friend.
It was working fine about 9 months ago when I last fixed it up for them, but
has lately taken to rebooting on shutdown. I've done all the usual win98
solutions and still no joy.

I'm thinking its a hardware fault since the problem is still evident using
win2k and even knoppix. One other item that may be relevant is; that if you
use the power button to switch it off, you then need to unplug the power
lead for 10-15 seconds before you can start the machine back up.

"Andy Lawson" <> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Was wondering if anyone knows if there's a known problem with HP Vectra
VLi8
> computers in regards to failing to shutdown properly.
>
> I've been trying to resolve an issue with one belonging to a family
friend.
> It was working fine about 9 months ago when I last fixed it up for them,
but
> has lately taken to rebooting on shutdown. I've done all the usual win98
> solutions and still no joy.
>
> I'm thinking its a hardware fault since the problem is still evident using
> win2k and even knoppix. One other item that may be relevant is; that if
you
> use the power button to switch it off, you then need to unplug the power
> lead for 10-15 seconds before you can start the machine back up.

A lousy update from MS might fix it. I think I saw something amongst them
for Win98 for shutdowns etc.
Just be careful if it shows a modem driver update as well. LOL

E. Scrooge

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:10:48 +1200, "Andy Lawson"
<> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Was wondering if anyone knows if there's a known problem with HP Vectra VLi8
>computers in regards to failing to shutdown properly.
>
>I've been trying to resolve an issue with one belonging to a family friend.
>It was working fine about 9 months ago when I last fixed it up for them, but
>has lately taken to rebooting on shutdown. I've done all the usual win98
>solutions and still no joy.
>
I had trouble with my Win98 not shutting down and I used Wizmo until I
was forced to do a complete format of my hard drive.

http://grc.com/wizmo/wizmo.htm

"Nicholas Sherlock" <> wrote in message
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snip
>
> Take a look in the BIOS. There may be an option that controls the
state of
> the machine after "Power failure".
>
> Cheers,
> Nicholas Sherlock
>
Nope, the machine is too primitive for such a bios feature. It was
running perfectly until recently without any of the extra patches to
deal with the Win98 shutdown issues.

"E. Scrooge" < (remove eye)> wrote in message
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>
snip

> A lousy update from MS might fix it. I think I saw something
amongst them
> for Win98 for shutdowns etc.
> Just be careful if it shows a modem driver update as well. LOL
>
> E. Scrooge
>
Tried all the possible solutions for the Win98 shutdown issues to no
avail. The problem remained under Win 2K and Knoppix, so I think its
likely not to be OS related.
I tried some new RAM as well, but I have a feeling the problem is
related to the power supply, since if you turn the machine off via the
power switch you then need to completely remove the power for a good
20 seconds before reconnecting and being able to restart the computer.

"Kookaburra" <galah@*ubdimen*ion.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:10:48 +1200, "Andy Lawson"
> <> wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >Was wondering if anyone knows if there's a known problem with HP
Vectra VLi8
> >computers in regards to failing to shutdown properly.
> >
> >I've been trying to resolve an issue with one belonging to a family
friend.
> >It was working fine about 9 months ago when I last fixed it up for
them, but
> >has lately taken to rebooting on shutdown. I've done all the usual
win98
> >solutions and still no joy.
> >
> I had trouble with my Win98 not shutting down and I used Wizmo until
I
> was forced to do a complete format of my hard drive.
>
> http://grc.com/wizmo/wizmo.htm
>
Thanks for the link, but unfortunately it did not solve the problem.
If I used "wizmo exit" it shutdown windows and sat there with a
flashing cursor waiting for me to power off. When I did so using the
power switch it then refused to restart untill the power lead had been
disconnected for about 20 seconds or so.
Looks like I may need to pull the power supply apart.

First remove and refit the power connectors onto the motherboard. Test.

Then Try,

Clear the CMOS, and replace the cmos battery.

If you have the time and paitiance to wade round HP's website you will find
a technote about this.

If the above fails.

Check the voltage on the standby line from the PSU it should be 5V. The
control line on the PSU gets dropped low (AFAIK) to tell the PSU to shut
down.

See if this is happening, if it isn't you have a faulty motherboard.


"Andy Lawson" <> wrote in message
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> "Kookaburra" <galah@*ubdimen*ion.com> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:10:48 +1200, "Andy Lawson"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >Was wondering if anyone knows if there's a known problem with HP
> Vectra VLi8
> > >computers in regards to failing to shutdown properly.
> > >
> > >I've been trying to resolve an issue with one belonging to a family
> friend.
> > >It was working fine about 9 months ago when I last fixed it up for
> them, but
> > >has lately taken to rebooting on shutdown. I've done all the usual
> win98
> > >solutions and still no joy.
> > >
> > I had trouble with my Win98 not shutting down and I used Wizmo until
> I
> > was forced to do a complete format of my hard drive.
> >
> > http://grc.com/wizmo/wizmo.htm
> >
> Thanks for the link, but unfortunately it did not solve the problem.
> If I used "wizmo exit" it shutdown windows and sat there with a
> flashing cursor waiting for me to power off. When I did so using the
> power switch it then refused to restart untill the power lead had been
> disconnected for about 20 seconds or so.
> Looks like I may need to pull the power supply apart.
>
>