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Re: Evolution 1.4.3 (bug-fix release) now available.

 
 
Steve
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      07-15-2003
Lennier allegedly said:

> I also took the opportunity to get the spelling checker to work, as I
> didn't download that part last time.
>
> It seems to be OK.
>
> Lennier


How did you install it?

..deb?
..rpm?
..tar.gz?

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Chris
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      07-15-2003
Steve wrote:

> Lennier allegedly said:
>
>> I also took the opportunity to get the spelling checker to work, as I
>> didn't download that part last time.
>>
>> It seems to be OK.
>>
>> Lennier

>
> How did you install it?
>
> .deb?
> .rpm?
> .tar.gz?
>


I install it using Ximian Red-Carpet. It's on the Ximian website.
http://www.ximian.com/products/redcarpet/

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      07-15-2003
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:17:17 +1200, Steve wrote:

> Lennier allegedly said:
>
>> I also took the opportunity to get the spelling checker to work, as I
>> didn't download that part last time.
>>
>> It seems to be OK.
>>
>> Lennier

>
> How did you install it?
>
> .deb?
> .rpm?
> .tar.gz?


apt-get update
apt-get install evolution, and it upgraded 1.4.0.




 
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AD.
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      07-15-2003
mdew wrote:

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> apt-get update
> apt-get install evolution, and it upgraded 1.4.0.


Are you sure?

swap 'install evolution' for 'upgrade',

or

'upgraded 1.4.0' for 'installed 1.4.3'

and I'd believe you

Cheers
Anton

PS I used:

apt-get update && apt-get -s upgrade
(peruse list of upgrades...)
apt-get upgrade

That way I get to check for things like a mozilla upgrade breaking galeon
etc.
 
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Adam Warner
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      07-15-2003
Hi AD.,

> mdew wrote:
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>> apt-get update
>> apt-get install evolution, and it upgraded 1.4.0.

>
> Are you sure?
>
> swap 'install evolution' for 'upgrade',
>
> or
>
> 'upgraded 1.4.0' for 'installed 1.4.3'
>
> and I'd believe you


You should have believed him anyway Anton. It is possible to install the
latest available version of a program even when an older version is
installed.

It's also common to install a package by name when it is pinned.

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Adam
 
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Adam Warner
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      07-16-2003
Hi AD.,

> Adam Warner wrote:
>
>> You should have believed him anyway Anton. It is possible to install the
>> latest available version of a program even when an older version is
>> installed.
>>
>> It's also common to install a package by name when it is pinned.

>
> I bow before the master (Apologies to mdew!)
>
> Even though my first debian install was back when Slink was stable, I still
> keep finding out stuff about apt.
>
> Maybe I should stop being so lazy and study some docs. Maybe I gravitate
> towards Debian because I am so lazy!


Many of my documentation lookups are simply need based. I need to know how
to do something and I hope someone has already implemented the functionality.
It's not that you're being so lazy nor studying some docs. You've just
never needed the functionality.

I think motivation to remove drudge is a wonderful virtue and it is
closely related to being lazy. I will spend inordinate amounts of time
creating a higher level process so I can avoid the boring stuff. I've
been swamped by the amount of web support I've been providing to some
non-profit organisations so I've been building a document format to help
make them self-sufficient: <https://macrology.co.nz/syntext/>

The goal of the whole project has been to simultaneously automate the
generation of HTML and PDF documents while maintaining typesetting
quality. Generating HTML is a well-defined problem. Simultaneously
generating high-quality PDFs complicates it. I am pleased with the results
of my LDF format. Here for example I calculate a model and generate the
resulting graphs all within the document format (manually pasting in
results and graphs from another application is, after all, drudge--and
manually fixing up the effects of a mistake is even worse):
<https://macrology.co.nz/software-adoption.html>

If you look at the source code you'll find that even the equation markup
is generated. Take for example this equation:
<https://macrology.co.nz/software-adoption17x.png>
It's generated via this command:
(s2align* (get 'VD0 'source) :equation-split t :range-spacing "[4mm]")

The "syntext" document format has been created to solve two different
problems: creating a format that is virtually like plain text and is
also OK for untrusted third parties to edit. The parser generates an LDF
document so simultaneous HTML and PDF output is still achieved.

There are many shoulders of giants I'm standing upon to do all of this.
And I appreciate them all. I have however observed limitations in the
current state of the art and I hope one day to have an opportunity to
implement some of my ideas.

Now onto "installing" evolution:

# apt-get upgrade -u
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
evolution libldap2
The following packages will be upgraded
apache2-common apache2-mpm-worker gettext-base gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
gnome-session gnome-terminal libapr0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common
libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libpanel-applet2-0
13 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 8201kB of archives.
After unpacking 1335kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

# dpkg -l evolution
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description
+++-==============-==============-============================================
hi evolution 1.4.3-1 The groupware suite
^
Evolution is being held, but lets install the upgrade anyway:

# apt-get install evolution
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Suggested packages:
gnupg
Recommended packages:
gnome-pilot-conduits
The following held packages will be changed:
evolution
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
Need to get 9476kB of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

> Cheers
> Anton
>
> PS just today I was reminded why I avoid Redhat. Why is that you have use
> --nodeps so often and hope for the best when installing rpms?


Ah, you're just softening me up

Regards,
Adam
 
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AD.
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      07-16-2003
Adam Warner wrote:

<snip informative demo>

>> PS just today I was reminded why I avoid Redhat. Why is that you have use
>> --nodeps so often and hope for the best when installing rpms?

>
> Ah, you're just softening me up


Nah, just blowing off some steam*.

Cheers
Anton

*For those interested...

We have our own J2EE product, and we've been running our inhouse version on
Woody with JBoss and Sun's JDK (both installed manually).

Unfortunately the Sun JDK will regularly explode under moderate load,
apparently there is a bug in a c++ library somewhere. We then tried JRockit
- much more stable and quicker, but it doesn't release temp files and after
a week or so will exhaust the systems open files limit.

So we set up a trial Redhat 8.0 to try and reproduce the problems on a
'supported' (by the JDKs) distro. But finding and installing versions of
Apache2 and mod_jk2 that work together was a frustrating exercise in trying
to satisfy dependencies.

Redhat seem to be going out of their way to discourage non RHN subscribers.
Anyway, I'll try a Sarge demo later to see whether that helps.

 
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Steven H
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      07-17-2003
blimy - all that to upgrade a program

and they say linux is ready for the desktop


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lily
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      07-17-2003

"Steven H" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> blimy - all that to upgrade a program
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> and they say linux is ready for the desktop
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Beats upgrading Office 97 to Office XP

To upgrade evolution in Debian its apt-get or click through in synaptic.
To upgrade outlook, go to shop spend $1000 on new OS and new Office bundle
Guess theres two sides to everything.


 
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Porkchop
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      07-18-2003
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:26:41 +1200, mdew wrote:

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>> and they say linux is ready for the desktop

>
> oh yes, its so hard to do..
>
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade


That only applies to like 5 % of the linux market ...

The rest have dependacy hell to deal with ...

 
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