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"Porkchop" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:26:41 +1200, mdew wrote:
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> >
> >> and they say linux is ready for the desktop
> >
> > oh yes, its so hard to do..
> >
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get upgrade
>
> That only applies to like 5 % of the linux market ...
>
> The rest have dependacy hell to deal with ...
>

http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:03:13 +1200, lily wrote:

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> "Porkchop" <> wrote in message
> news...
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:26:41 +1200, mdew wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> and they say linux is ready for the desktop
>> >
>> > oh yes, its so hard to do..
>> >
>> > apt-get update
>> > apt-get upgrade
>>
>> That only applies to like 5 % of the linux market ...
>>
>> The rest have dependacy hell to deal with ...
>>
>
> http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/


Redhat dont support the use of APT ....


you would know this little detail wouldnt you ?



wouldnt you ?

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:43:27 +1200, Nicholas Sherlock wrote:



>> The rest have dependacy hell to deal with ...
>>
>
> Don't the makers of various programs make available precompiled versions for
> people who honestly don't care if they can recompile from source or not (For
> changes or optimizations)?
>
> Cheers,
> Nicholas Sherlock



precompiled binaries are what lennier used ...

redhats RPM manager is a pain in the ass for dependacys, since redhat
think APT is crap the situation is hardly likely to change.

Redhat in no way support you in using APT.

Lenniers --nodeps switch could have just as easy borked his system for
him.

What irks me is that the linux advocates seem to mumble and avoid this
real issue with the RPM package manager.


... big bloody deal that Debian users dont have this crap
problem to deal with. The other 85 % of linux users do have this
dependacy rubbish to deal with.



If redhat fixed this issue like debian have then you could truly say Linux
could be used by any windows user.


cheers ..

"Porkchop" <> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:03:13 +1200, lily wrote:
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> >
> > "Porkchop" <> wrote in message
> > news...
> >> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:26:41 +1200, mdew wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> and they say linux is ready for the desktop
> >> >
> >> > oh yes, its so hard to do..
> >> >
> >> > apt-get update
> >> > apt-get upgrade
> >>
> >> That only applies to like 5 % of the linux market ...
> >>
> >> The rest have dependacy hell to deal with ...
> >>
> >
> > http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/
>
>
> Redhat dont support the use of APT ....
>
>
> you would know this little detail wouldnt you ?
>
>
>
> wouldnt you ?

Redhat don't support anything, even rpm
http://www.rpm.org/
"This is free software" etc
The developers support their particular project

You have the following options
Find a binary package compiled for your distribution
Compile a binary package for your distribution
apt just manages a repository within a distribution.
The dependencies are managed by the package maintainers.
The good thing about debian is the number and spread of interest of the
mintainers hence the range of tested precompiled binaries.

"Lennier" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:03:13 +1200, Steven H wrote:
>
> >> Linux should be used by a Linux user - not by someone as dull as a
> >> Windows user.
> >
> > so what your saying is that your linux penis is bigger than a windows
> > penis
>
> I am pleased to see that there are people out there who think they can
> tell me what I am saying.
>
> Altho', you used the wrong "your" - it should have been "you're".
>
> Lennier
>

You _are_ penis ?
ROTFL !

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:19:34 +1200, Lennier
<> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:03:13 +1200, Steven H wrote:
>
>>> Linux should be used by a Linux user - not by someone as dull as a
>>> Windows user.
>>
>> so what your saying is that your linux penis is bigger than a windows
>> penis
>
>I am pleased to see that there are people out there who think they can
>tell me what I am saying.
>
>Altho', you used the wrong "your" - it should have been "you're".
>
You are making an assumption, perhaps he meant your "saying" as in
your catch-phrase.Reread the post with a sympathetic ear, as you have
been told before.I think the OP will agree with my analysis

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:26:01 +1200, Porkchop wrote:

> Redhat dont support the use of APT ....

Not yet it doesn't.

However, APT is such an excellent tool that I would not be surprised to
see it implemented as standard before too long.

Lennier

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:03:13 +1200, Steven H wrote:

>> Linux should be used by a Linux user - not by someone as dull as a
>> Windows user.
>
> so what your saying is that your linux penis is bigger than a windows
> penis

I am pleased to see that there are people out there who think they can
tell me what I am saying.

Altho', you used the wrong "your" - it should have been "you're".

Lennier

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:46:24 +1200, Porkchop wrote:

> Lenniers --nodeps switch could have just as easy borked his system for
> him.

No - because I was upgrading packages which depended on each other - I was
upgrading all of them, and RPM was refusing to -e or -U any one of them by
itself.

So I removed them without regard to their dependencies, and then replaced
them with the newer versions.

It was much easier that way than any other way I tried.

But now that I've got the use of APT...

Lennier

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:51:16 +1300, "Max Burke" <mlvburke@%$%#@.nz>
wrote:

>>> so what your saying is that your linux penis is bigger than a windows
>>> penis

<Snip>

>> Altho', you used the wrong "your" - it should have been "you're".
>
>No it shouldn't......

Nice try Max but you left out an "is" ie: so what your saying is, is
that your linux penis is bigger than a windows
penis.