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Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this is
whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.


You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11 21:01:19,
using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172

"Peter" <> wrote in message
news:...
> this quote is from Craig Sutton of Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:33 :
>
> > Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this
is
> > whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.
> >
> >
> > You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11
21:01:19,
> > using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
>
> You need to learn about reading email headers. Try ...
> http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/
> http://combat.uxn.com/
> http://samspade.org/
> http://www.cauce.org/
>
> And you're right - spammers are scumbags.
> It doesn't mean anyone signed you up to that list. Spammers also get
email
> addresses from other sources, eg generated addresses, harvested from web
> pages or newsgroups.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Peter

Also replying to the bastards to get taken off the list makes it worse.

E. Scrooge

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:21:55 +1200, M wrote:

>> You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11 21:01:19,
>> using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
>>
>
> Name: CPE-61-9-192-172.nsw.bigpond.net.au
> Address: 61.9.192.172
>
>
> try emailing with the details

There's a good chance that the IP is forged anyway. I've run into a number
of porn spam lists which put bogus signup data in as a way of scaring
people into not complaining.

And of course, a well-run mailing list uses confirmations, Anything else
isn't opt-in, as any bozo can put your address on a webform.

"E. Scrooge" < (remove eye)> wrote in message
news:bev73r$4v3$...
>
> "Craig Sutton" <> wrote in message
> news:beubgo$l2s$...
> > Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this
is
> > whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.
> >
> >
> > You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11
21:01:19,
> > using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
>
> It might be part of your new free Panda service, they send you address
onto
> others if it's only just happened.
>
> E. Scrooge

No this has been happening over the last few days.Some &^%* being a pest
signing me up to mailing lists.
One was a web host. One was addressed to Craig Mutton, obviously an aussies
idea of a joke. The webhost confirmed to me that this persons i.p address
was in Australia. So I have a strong feeling this is the same person.

"Craig Sutton" <> wrote in message
news:bevq9i$gc2$...
>
> "E. Scrooge" < (remove eye)> wrote in message
> news:bev73r$4v3$...
> >
> > "Craig Sutton" <> wrote in message
> > news:beubgo$l2s$...
> > > Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this
> is
> > > whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.
> > >
> > >
> > > You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11
> 21:01:19,
> > > using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
> >
> > It might be part of your new free Panda service, they send you address
> onto
> > others if it's only just happened.
> >
> > E. Scrooge
>
> No this has been happening over the last few days.Some &^%* being a pest
> signing me up to mailing lists.
> One was a web host. One was addressed to Craig Mutton, obviously an
aussies
> idea of a joke. The webhost confirmed to me that this persons i.p address
> was in Australia. So I have a strong feeling this is the same person.
>
>

I had a similar thing happen to me recently. I got an IP address off one of
the signups but unfortunately it was just the IP of the Clearnet proxy

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:52:11 +1200, "Craig Sutton"
<> wrote:

>
>"E. Scrooge" < (remove eye)> wrote in message
>news:bev73r$4v3$...
>>
>> "Craig Sutton" <> wrote in message
>> news:beubgo$l2s$...
>> > Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this
>is
>> > whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.
>> >
>> >
>> > You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11
>21:01:19,
>> > using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
>>
>> It might be part of your new free Panda service, they send you address
>onto
>> others if it's only just happened.
>>
>> E. Scrooge
>
>No this has been happening over the last few days.Some &^%* being a pest
>signing me up to mailing lists.
>One was a web host. One was addressed to Craig Mutton, obviously an aussies
>idea of a joke. The webhost confirmed to me that this persons i.p address
>was in Australia. So I have a strong feeling this is the same person.
>


Do you have any people that you have annoyed in Australia?

"Uncle StoatWarbler" <alanb+> wrote in message
news.. .
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:21:55 +1200, M wrote:
>
> >> You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11
21:01:19,
> >> using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
> >>
> >
> > Name: CPE-61-9-192-172.nsw.bigpond.net.au
> > Address: 61.9.192.172
> >
> >
> > try emailing with the details
>
> There's a good chance that the IP is forged anyway. I've run into a number
> of porn spam lists which put bogus signup data in as a way of scaring
> people into not complaining.
>
> And of course, a well-run mailing list uses confirmations, Anything else
> isn't opt-in, as any bozo can put your address on a webform.
>

Have has another response from another place that claimed i signed up to
receive info.. Shown below. had to threaten them to get the info but SAME
I.P address..

Hello,
I contacted our legal office to talk about your request.
Here is what the problem was we are not allowed to give out customer
information
without a court order.
But they told us it is ok for us to agree with your request, because first
the person who submitted the false info is not a customer of ours, and
second because he submitted your email address.

7/3/2003 4:28:30
name=*******
email=*******
61.9.192.172
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

Now you have what you requested please do not email us about this again.

"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:...

> >No this has been happening over the last few days.Some &^%* being a pest
> >signing me up to mailing lists.
> >One was a web host. One was addressed to Craig Mutton, obviously an
aussies
> >idea of a joke. The webhost confirmed to me that this persons i.p address
> >was in Australia. So I have a strong feeling this is the same person.
> >
>
>
> Do you have any people that you have annoyed in Australia?

I run a website, of course i have probably upset a few people. But this
persons gone out of their way to be a pest.

No read and you will see what I am talking about

First I got this email

Hello Craig Mutton,
You submitted you email for contact about hosting.
How can I help you?

http://www3.cbwhost.com/hosting/hosting.htm

and I responded back saying I had not submitted my address to them

(check their site you will see you can enter anyones address in the box they
provide its not an opt in list)

They replied

I don't know what is going on but I'm not laughing.
Your IP and his IP is both from Australia.
I guess stuff like this is found funny there but not here.

Craig Sutton <****@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
At 04:00 p.m. 3/07/03 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Craig Mutton,
>You submitted you email for contact about hosting.
>How can I help you?
>
>http://www3.cbwhost.com/hosting/hosting.htm

After a threat of legal action they came back with this.

Hello,
I contacted our legal office to talk about your request.
Here is what the problem was we are not allowed to give out customer
information
without a court order.
But they told us it is ok for us to agree with your request, because first
the person who submitted the false info is not a customer of ours, and
second because he submitted your email address.

7/3/2003 4:28:30
name=Craig Mutton
email=**********
61.9.192.172
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)

Now you have what you requested please do not email us about this again.

E. Scrooge wrote:
> "Peter" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>>this quote is from Craig Sutton of Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:33 :
>>
>>
>>>Looks like some ^%$& has signed me up to a porn mailing list. But this
>
> is
>
>>>whats at the bottom. How do I trace the details.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are receiving this mail because you signed up on 2003-07-11
>
> 21:01:19,
>
>>>using the email address: ***ihug.co.nz from the IP: 61.9.192.172
>>
>>You need to learn about reading email headers. Try ...
>>http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/
>>http://combat.uxn.com/
>>http://samspade.org/
>>http://www.cauce.org/
>>
>>And you're right - spammers are scumbags.
>>It doesn't mean anyone signed you up to that list. Spammers also get
>
> email
>
>>addresses from other sources, eg generated addresses, harvested from web
>>pages or newsgroups.
>>
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Peter
>
>
> Also replying to the bastards to get taken off the list makes it worse.
>
> E. Scrooge
>
>
I have given up trying to trace the baddies. What I do use is Mozilla
as my browser. It has built-in spam filtering for email. This learns
what you define as spam and in quite a short time it knows what you
define as spam, and can be instructed to either put it into a special
folder, or to delete it all together! I put mine into a separate folder
which I delete all of the contents of after having had a quick look.
There is never anything that I want in there now, but when I started
there were a few that got put there, but after about a month or so that
has stopped.

I get about 30 per day put into the SPAM folder which leaves two or
three that I have to look at by hand - a big improvement and saver of
time indeed.

regards to you all

John Fulton