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John Hornblow
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      07-12-2003
On the topic of rechargeable batteries...
Does anyone know of a place in WellyLand that still stocks a motorola
batterly, same size as a AAA but longer by about 5 mm's
They used them in their early cell phones and Im told they stopped
making them 6 months ago...
Cheers
John

 
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Phillip Weston
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      07-12-2003
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:13:29 GMT, (John Hornblow)
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>On the topic of rechargeable batteries...
>Does anyone know of a place in WellyLand that still stocks a motorola
>batterly, same size as a AAA but longer by about 5 mm's
>They used them in their early cell phones and Im told they stopped
>making them 6 months ago...


I'm after a set of them too for my Motorola T2288 phone. My current
set wont even last 6 hours on standby.


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Phillip Weston
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      07-12-2003
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:26:41 GMT, (John Hornblow)
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>On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:02:43 +1200, Phillip Weston
>< > wrote:
>
>I'm going to attempt to modify some AAA's


I notice the motorola batteries are only rated for 700mAH, whereas you
can get AAA NiMH batteries with a higher rating. I might just get
three of them and use tinfoil as a space filler.

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Ian JEnkins
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      07-13-2003
Mainlander wrote:
> In article <>,
> says...
>
>>On the topic of rechargeable batteries...
>>Does anyone know of a place in WellyLand that still stocks a motorola
>>batterly, same size as a AAA but longer by about 5 mm's
>>They used them in their early cell phones and Im told they stopped
>>making them 6 months ago...

>
>
> Third party supplier?

Try Batterymasta in ChCh and Auckland or Telesound in Lower Hutt, both
have web sites.

Ian
ecobatteries.co.nz

 
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John S
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      09-27-2009
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:23:02 +1200, Brendon Pascoe wrote:

> Who/where to get these? WHich are the best? I am currently looking at Dick
> Smiths ones that come with the 1hr charger or 2 hr charger (4 AA batts) for
> $80ish.
>
> Any thing else around better? Incl. charger? AA batts a must.
>
> Cheers
> Brendon


Depends what you want them for. Portable power tools tend to use NiCads
for the budget to medium priced tools - possibly because of the need for
occasional high torque/high discharge from the batteries.

However, they suffer from the infamous "memory effect"

If you need batteries for digital cameras, flashlights etc then NiMh
(nickel metal hydride) would probably serve you better. They don't suffer
to the same extent from the memory effect.

However, most of them suffer from slow self-discharge which can be a
nuisance if you want to pick up your camera, flashlight or whatever after
it's been sitting unused on a shelf for several weeks, and expect it to
just work.

Sanyo seem to have found the answer to this problem when they introduced
the "Eneloop" series of NiMh batteries, and I've been very impressed with
them.

I managed to buy some AA and AAA Eneloops from Dick Smith (this was over a
year ago) and they have been great. However, Dick Smith seem to be no
longer selling these particular batteries as far as I can tell.

(Whoops, I was wrong - just checked. They are back at DSE again, and they
show the AA Eneloops at $22.99 for a pack of 4, and AAA Eneloops available
as a limited stock clearance product only and $16.87 for a pair)

If you want to know more about them, try searching for eneloop on Google
(or some other search engine). There will be other places selling them I
guess.

I think there are now other manufacturers offering batteries with similar
characteristics to the Eneloop brand, so a bit of searching in the internet
may be worthwhile research. Typically they are sold fully charged, as they
can hold most of their charge for over a year.

If you try searching posts from rec.photo.digital you will probably find
some good information, as I'm aware there has been some interesting
discusssion on the subject over the last year or so.

I would also suggest that you avoid the cheap battery chargers.
Overcharging (and charging too quickly) is a quick way to wreck your
batteries, and I reckon buying an "intelligent" charger is a very worthwile
investment (a decent charger should last you a lifetime, which I think
justifies paying for good quality and performance).

The "intelligent" chargers will charge each battery individually, and
monitor its condition during charging, cutting off when charging has
reached the correct level.

I have a Maha charger which I think I bought from ecobatteries
http://www.ecobatteries.co.nz/ - about 6 years ago.
This is an "intelligent" charger It charges four batteries at a time (AA or
AAA - you can mix them), but each is individually monitored, and charging
is stopped on a per cell basis when completed.

I always use it on the slow charge setting (5 hours for a complete
recharge) to minimise heat build up in the batteries. It has a switch so
you can select faster charging if you're in more of a hurry.

Personally I wouldn't buy the cheap charger/battery deals, unless you are
happy with something you can just use for a while, then throw away, (and if
you don't care too much about having the batteries fail on you when you are
relying on them).

Cheers,

John S

 
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Donchano
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      09-27-2009
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:28:31 +1200, John S <>
shouted from the highest rooftop:

<great info reluctantly snipped?
>
>
>Personally I wouldn't buy the cheap charger/battery deals, unless you are
>happy with something you can just use for a while, then throw away, (and if
>you don't care too much about having the batteries fail on you when you are
>relying on them).
>
>Cheers,
>
>John S


Many thanks for all that, John. Yours is one of the most informative
and valuable posts I've ever seen on this ng. Cheers, b
 
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Mary Hanna
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      09-28-2009
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:28:31 +1200, John S <> wrote:

>On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:23:02 +1200, Brendon Pascoe wrote:
>
>> Who/where to get these? WHich are the best? I am currently looking at Dick
>> Smiths ones that come with the 1hr charger or 2 hr charger (4 AA batts) for
>> $80ish.
>>
>> Any thing else around better? Incl. charger? AA batts a must.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Brendon

>
>Depends what you want them for. Portable power tools tend to use NiCads
>for the budget to medium priced tools - possibly because of the need for
>occasional high torque/high discharge from the batteries.
>
>However, they suffer from the infamous "memory effect"
>
>If you need batteries for digital cameras, flashlights etc then NiMh
>(nickel metal hydride) would probably serve you better. They don't suffer
>to the same extent from the memory effect.
>
>However, most of them suffer from slow self-discharge which can be a
>nuisance if you want to pick up your camera, flashlight or whatever after
>it's been sitting unused on a shelf for several weeks, and expect it to
>just work.






>Sanyo seem to have found the answer to this problem when they introduced
>the "Eneloop" series of NiMh batteries, and I've been very impressed with
>them.
>
>I managed to buy some AA and AAA Eneloops from Dick Smith (this was over a
>year ago) and they have been great. However, Dick Smith seem to be no
>longer selling these particular batteries as far as I can tell.
>
>(Whoops, I was wrong - just checked. They are back at DSE again, and they
>show the AA Eneloops at $22.99 for a pack of 4, and AAA Eneloops available
>as a limited stock clearance product only and $16.87 for a pair)




Sanyo/Sony and Panasonic are Eneloop ones, I think is a 20% loss in 6 or may
be twelve months, but are only rated at 2100mAh, all these batteries are made
by Sanyo.


>If you want to know more about them, try searching for eneloop on Google
>(or some other search engine). There will be other places selling them I
>guess.
>
>I think there are now other manufacturers offering batteries with similar
>characteristics to the Eneloop brand, so a bit of searching in the internet
>may be worthwhile research. Typically they are sold fully charged, as they
>can hold most of their charge for over a year.
>
>If you try searching posts from rec.photo.digital you will probably find
>some good information, as I'm aware there has been some interesting
>discusssion on the subject over the last year or so.
>
>I would also suggest that you avoid the cheap battery chargers.
>Overcharging (and charging too quickly) is a quick way to wreck your
>batteries, and I reckon buying an "intelligent" charger is a very worthwile
>investment (a decent charger should last you a lifetime, which I think
>justifies paying for good quality and performance).
>
>The "intelligent" chargers will charge each battery individually, and
>monitor its condition during charging, cutting off when charging has
>reached the correct level.
>
>I have a Maha charger which I think I bought from ecobatteries
>http://www.ecobatteries.co.nz/ - about 6 years ago.
>This is an "intelligent" charger It charges four batteries at a time (AA or
>AAA - you can mix them), but each is individually monitored, and charging
>is stopped on a per cell basis when completed.
>
>I always use it on the slow charge setting (5 hours for a complete
>recharge) to minimise heat build up in the batteries. It has a switch so
>you can select faster charging if you're in more of a hurry.




Yes fast chargers are a big No No, Panasonic do one with Eneloop batteries.


>Personally I wouldn't buy the cheap charger/battery deals, unless you are
>happy with something you can just use for a while, then throw away, (and if
>you don't care too much about having the batteries fail on you when you are
>relying on them).
>
>Cheers,
>
>John S

 
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J Brockley
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      09-28-2009
"Donchano" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:28:31 +1200, John S <>
> shouted from the highest rooftop:
>
> <great info reluctantly snipped?
>>
>>
>>Personally I wouldn't buy the cheap charger/battery deals, unless you are
>>happy with something you can just use for a while, then throw away, (and
>>if
>>you don't care too much about having the batteries fail on you when you
>>are
>>relying on them).
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>John S

>
> Many thanks for all that, John. Yours is one of the most informative
> and valuable posts I've ever seen on this ng. Cheers, b


HN currently have the Uniross Hybro batteries on special for ~$25 for 2 AA
batteries + charger.


 
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