2 Routers in Network, causing issues

I have a somewhat complicated setup in my house. I have 4 windows desktops,
1 windows server, 1 linux server, a print server, a slingbox and 4 laptops
for wireless all on the 192.168.0.x subnet. In oder to see what I have I
created 2 quick visio drawings to show what I have and what I want.

You can view those drawings here:

http://home.twcny.rr.com/jgrago/

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks
Jim

Jim G

"Jim G" <> wrote in message
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>I have a somewhat complicated setup in my house. I have 4 windows desktops,
>1 windows server, 1 linux server, a print server, a slingbox and 4 laptops
>for wireless all on the 192.168.0.x subnet. In oder to see what I have I
>created 2 quick visio drawings to show what I have and what I want.
>
> You can view those drawings here:
>
> http://home.twcny.rr.com/jgrago/
>
> Please let me know your thoughts.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
However many people are there in your household? (and don't say six children
because you obviously haven't any time to produce them!)

Suzy

Just 4 of us, but I am a tech geek and I have plenty of time.(Can you tell?
LOL).

"Suzy" <not@valid> wrote in message news:...
>
> "Jim G" <> wrote in message
> news:7079A7A7-D31A-4F6E-A8D8-...
>>I have a somewhat complicated setup in my house. I have 4 windows
>>desktops, 1 windows server, 1 linux server, a print server, a slingbox and
>>4 laptops for wireless all on the 192.168.0.x subnet. In oder to see what
>>I have I created 2 quick visio drawings to show what I have and what I
>>want.
>>
>> You can view those drawings here:
>>
>> http://home.twcny.rr.com/jgrago/
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim
> However many people are there in your household? (and don't say six
> children because you obviously haven't any time to produce them!)
>

Jim G

Jim G wrote:
> I have a somewhat complicated setup in my house. I have 4 windows
> desktops, 1 windows server, 1 linux server, a print server, a slingbox
> and 4 laptops for wireless all on the 192.168.0.x subnet. In oder to see
> what I have I created 2 quick visio drawings to show what I have and
> what I want.
>
> You can view those drawings here:
>
> http://home.twcny.rr.com/jgrago/
>
> Please let me know your thoughts.
>
> Thanks
> Jim

Your new setup *ought* to work. What makes you think that the old
fsv318 is assigning IP addresses after you disabled its DHCP server?

Did you assign the fsv318 a non-default LAN IP? I haven't looked at the
manuals, but given that both the fsv318 and the WNR834 are Netgears, I
suspect that they both default to the same LAN-facing IP. That would
not be a good thing.

If the default LAN IP on the WNR834 is not the same as the default IP of
the fsv318, did you change the default gateway entry on the devices with
static IPs to point at the correct router?

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

Lem

"Lem" <> wrote in message
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> Jim G wrote:
>> I have a somewhat complicated setup in my house. I have 4 windows
>> desktops, 1 windows server, 1 linux server, a print server, a slingbox
>> and 4 laptops for wireless all on the 192.168.0.x subnet. In oder to see
>> what I have I created 2 quick visio drawings to show what I have and what
>> I want.
>>
>> You can view those drawings here:
>>
>> http://home.twcny.rr.com/jgrago/
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim
>
> Your new setup *ought* to work. What makes you think that the old fsv318
> is assigning IP addresses after you disabled its DHCP server?
>
> Did you assign the fsv318 a non-default LAN IP? I haven't looked at the
> manuals, but given that both the fsv318 and the WNR834 are Netgears, I
> suspect that they both default to the same LAN-facing IP. That would not
> be a good thing.
>
> If the default LAN IP on the WNR834 is not the same as the default IP of
> the fsv318, did you change the default gateway entry on the devices with
> static IPs to point at the correct router?
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

I didnt change the fsv318 ip because I didnt think it would matter because
it would just be acting like a hub (pass thru). I knew I was hitting the
fsv318v3 because when I went to 192.168.0.1 it showed the fsv318 in the
login box. After I unplug the WNR834b and reset it and goto my gateway
address, it shows the wnr834b in the login box.

Jim

Jim G

Jim G wrote:
> "Lem" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Jim G wrote:
>>> I have a somewhat complicated setup in my house. I have 4 windows
>>> desktops, 1 windows server, 1 linux server, a print server, a
>>> slingbox and 4 laptops for wireless all on the 192.168.0.x subnet. In
>>> oder to see what I have I created 2 quick visio drawings to show what
>>> I have and what I want.
>>>
>>> You can view those drawings here:
>>>
>>> http://home.twcny.rr.com/jgrago/
>>>
>>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jim
>>
>> Your new setup *ought* to work. What makes you think that the old
>> fsv318 is assigning IP addresses after you disabled its DHCP server?
>>
>> Did you assign the fsv318 a non-default LAN IP? I haven't looked at
>> the manuals, but given that both the fsv318 and the WNR834 are
>> Netgears, I suspect that they both default to the same LAN-facing IP.
>> That would not be a good thing.
>>
>> If the default LAN IP on the WNR834 is not the same as the default IP
>> of the fsv318, did you change the default gateway entry on the devices
>> with static IPs to point at the correct router?
>>
>> --
>> Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking
>>
>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
>
> I didnt change the fsv318 ip because I didnt think it would matter
> because it would just be acting like a hub (pass thru). I knew I was
> hitting the fsv318v3 because when I went to 192.168.0.1 it showed the
> fsv318 in the login box. After I unplug the WNR834b and reset it and
> goto my gateway address, it shows the wnr834b in the login box.
>
> Jim

The fsv may just be acting as a switch (not a hub), but it's still on
the network with its very own IP address. If the LAN-facing IP of the
fsv is 192.168.0.1 and the LAN-facing IP of the WNR also is 192.168.0.1,
then when a packet destined for a non-LAN IP (the Internet) is sent by
one of your machines, it sees the "default gateway" on its local NIC of
192.168.0.1 and gets sent to ... where? If it somehow gets to the WNR,
then the router forwards the packet on to its Internet address. If the
packet gets to the fsv, it'll just sit there (nothing is connected to
the fsv's Internet port).

There should be a setting in the fsv's configuration utility to allow
the LAN IP to be changed from the default. I'd disconnect the WNR when
you try to access this. Some, but not all, routers permit the LAN IP to
be set automatically by a DHCP server. If the fsv doesn't offer this
option, just set it to an IP in the 192.168.0.x subnet but outside the
range of IPs allocated by the WNR.

Incidentally, giving the fsv its own IP will allow you to reliably
access its configuration utility. Otherwise, as you've seen, sometimes
you get one and sometimes the other.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

Lem