Next-Gen DVDs: Advantage, Sony

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 01:21:10 -0800, "Telstar" <> wrote:

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>"ChairmanOfTheBored" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:56:00 -0800, "Telstar" <> wrote:
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>>>"Nomen Nescio" <> wrote in message
>>>news: ...
>>>> "Sony-led backers of Blu-ray seem to have pulled ahead of rivals in the
>>>> race for a single high-def DVD standard..."
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>>>> Business Week article: http://easyurl.net/5ee
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>>>All of this is moot. ....frankly the home theater will die a long but
>>>horrible death. All of this will be driven by the current 15 - 20 y/o
>>>group
>>>who cares nothing about the issues raised here.
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>> You're an idiot. HomeTheater will be a part of affluent households for
>> the next friggin millennium. There are more of us than there are of you.
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>> Frankly, you ain't real bright
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>Baored missed my point completely. DVD is likely the LAST disc based
>carrier of information.

You're an idiot. DVD looks like **** on a hi res display.

> There will be no HD DVD or Blu Ray success.

You're ****ing retarded, and your remarks have no basis in fact,
statistically speaking or otherwise.

>Silicon and hard drives and wireless and perhaps cable (the last format is
>not accepted globally).

You're an idiot.

>Home theaters in apartments? I think not....and that is all half the
>population can afford.

Dumb****. Apartment life is hardly considered "affluent". Also, the
half of the population that can only afford apartments are NOT the
biggest spenders on consumer goods in this country. I'll give you a
hint... it's the other half, dipshit.

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>As for intelligence, you have demonstrated quite repeatedly you are a
>dumbass.

You're an idiot, and you spouting dumb **** like "you have
demonstrated..." is as meaningless as your claims that the medium will
not succeed. You are a ****ing retard.

> I have at least 12 years of higher education beyond your sorry
>excuse.

Yes, and your re,arks here prove that none of it actually amounts to
anything. Especially when it got stuffed into an already full of ****
dope like you.
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Yeah... all the blank lines after your content is pretty retarded too.
You lost this battle when you came into Usenet using Outlook Express as
your news client. Every move/comment/remark you make proves from one
moment to the next that you don't know a goddamned thing about modern
technology.

ChairmanOfTheBored

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 01:23:36 -0800, "Telstar" <> wrote:

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>"Telstar" <> wrote in message
>news:fjdnm7$fuk$...
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>> "ChairmanOfTheBored" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:56:00 -0800, "Telstar" <> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>"Nomen Nescio" <> wrote in message
>>>>news: m...
>>>>> "Sony-led backers of Blu-ray seem to have pulled ahead of rivals in the
>>>>> race for a single high-def DVD standard..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Business Week article: http://easyurl.net/5ee
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>>>>
>>>>All of this is moot. ....frankly the home theater will die a long but
>>>>horrible death. All of this will be driven by the current 15 - 20 y/o
>>>>group
>>>>who cares nothing about the issues raised here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You're an idiot. HomeTheater will be a part of affluent households for
>>> the next friggin millennium. There are more of us than there are of you.
>>>
>>> Frankly, you ain't real bright
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>> Baored missed my point completely. DVD is likely the LAST disc based
>> carrier of information. There will be no HD DVD or Blu Ray success.
>> Silicon and hard drives and wireless and perhaps cable (the last format is
>> not accepted globally).
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>> Home theaters in apartments? I think not....and that is all half the
>> population can afford.
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>> As for intelligence, you have demonstrated quite repeatedly you are a
>> dumbass. I have at least 12 years of higher education beyond your sorry
>> excuse.
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>Oh, in case you cannot reason, a supremely likely assumption, I am stating
>emphatically that future video will be personal, in small spaces, and with
>emulated surround. It will absolutely NOT be what you are talking
>about...it will be PORTABLE.
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You're an idiot. Screens are getting bigger, not smaller, you retarded
****. The smaller screens are being made, but are very poor quality so
far. Otherwise, we would all be wearing hi res wide format glasses with
screens in them, which came out almost ten years ago, but we are not.
When and IF they make the quality of such devices worthwhile, folks will
ALSO buy them. Right now, a BIG home screen is where the great movie
viewing experiences are for most of the population.

Of course, I wouldn't expect a self proclaimed "12 years higher
education" know it all retarded **** like you to grasp that fact.

ChairmanOfTheBored

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:29:29 GMT, JXStern <>
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>On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:27:49 -0800, Tarkus
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>>> On Dec 8, 4:21 am, "Telstar" <n...@none.net> wrote:
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>>>> Home theaters in apartments? I think not....and that is all half the
>>>> population can afford.
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>>> Apartment home theater has become more practical every year. I had a
>>> friend who set his surround sound around a 13" in his dorm room in the
>>> 90's. That's with luggage size speakers, with the sound costing a
>>> grand. Hey, he wanted it. Now, speakers have gotten smaller, TV
>>> screens have gotten bigger, and tube thickness has become a non-
>>> entity. HD is under a grand, and DVD w/surround can probably strike a
>>> deal under a hundred. Apartment living gets better and better.
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>>And with the advent of "home theater in a box," especially with wireless
>>rear speakers, it gets even easier. And frankly, inexpensive.
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>I'm hoping for a constitutional amendment banning leaf blowers, and
>banning sub-woofers in apartments, or even on single-family housing of
>less than ten acre lots.
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>At least LA city has long banned those idiotic car alarms that beep
>every five seconds.
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Oh boy! Now LA doesn't have any urban problems. NOT!

ChairmanOfTheBored

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:39:29 GMT, JXStern <>
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>On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:24:18 GMT, "Big Daddy" <>
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>>....do you really think
>>they would be waging this war if any of their research indicated that nobody
>>still had interest in disc based media?
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>Yes?
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>There's money to be made even fighting over a declining market.
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>It's called refighting the last war, Hollywood suits are world experts
>at being a generation behind the curve on technology issues.

That has to be one of the most retarded remarks I have seen in this
thread.

ChairmanOfTheBored

"Sony-led backers of Blu-ray seem to have pulled ahead of rivals in the
race for a single high-def DVD standard..."

Business Week article: http://easyurl.net/5ee

Nomen Nescio

What a great example of the so-called free marketplace screwing the
consumer.

Nomen Nescio wrote:

> "Sony-led backers of Blu-ray seem to have pulled ahead of rivals in the
> race for a single high-def DVD standard..."
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> Business Week article: http://easyurl.net/5ee
>

Sam Spade

In alt.video.dvd Sam Spade <> wrote:
> What a great example of the so-called free marketplace screwing the
> consumer.

For every article or quote I see that claims that Blu-Ray is winning,
there's another one that says HD-DVD is in the lead.

In the meantime, the total combined sales of both formats barely accounts
for 5% of what DVD has done this year. Even the early adopters are
staying away due to memories of VHS/Betamax.

And while the current setup certainly isn't very ideal or beneficial to
consumers, consumers can fight back simply by NOT buying into the hype for
either format.

--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.

Doug Jacobs

In article <>,
Doug Jacobs <> wrote:

> In alt.video.dvd Sam Spade <> wrote:
> > What a great example of the so-called free marketplace screwing the
> > consumer.
>
> For every article or quote I see that claims that Blu-Ray is winning,
> there's another one that says HD-DVD is in the lead.
>
> In the meantime, the total combined sales of both formats barely accounts
> for 5% of what DVD has done this year. Even the early adopters are
> staying away due to memories of VHS/Betamax.
>
> And while the current setup certainly isn't very ideal or beneficial to
> consumers, consumers can fight back simply by NOT buying into the hype for
> either format.

5%?? All I've ever read shows the combined penetration at 2%!

Lloyd Parsons

Nomen Nescio <> wrote in
news::

> "Sony-led backers of Blu-ray seem to have pulled ahead of rivals in the
> race for a single high-def DVD standard..."
>
> Business Week article: http://easyurl.net/5ee
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Sony's having an advantage? Sounds like 1980 or whenever the Walkman came
out... Sony products since 1990 have been overpriced with a heavy dose of
poor workmanship and proprietary, customer-infuriating software.

In fact, Sony's history with proprietary formats makes me think HD-DVD will
be the winner in the end (approx 2015).

Good Man

Doug Jacobs wrote:

> In alt.video.dvd Sam Spade <> wrote:
>
>>What a great example of the so-called free marketplace screwing the
>>consumer.
>
> For every article or quote I see that claims that Blu-Ray is winning,
> there's another one that says HD-DVD is in the lead.

Written by Microsoft.

(Me, I tend to read articles like those "Blu-ray grabs 72% of Black
Friday hi-def sales", and all those "Warner still pledges to wait until
after Black Friday sales figures before deciding on neutrality" rumors
that've been popping up this week. ALSO on BW.)

> In the meantime, the total combined sales of both formats barely accounts
> for 5% of what DVD has done this year. Even the early adopters are
> staying away due to memories of VHS/Betamax.

(Okay, time for Doug Roulette--
He's already used up "Who cares, nobody's got the sets anyway", so
that's 1 down out of 5...
Place your bets for which one next: Will it be Even money on "It's all
going to be downloads, you just watch", or longshot 7:1 on "Eh, who
cares, all movies are crap anyway!"?)

> And while the current setup certainly isn't very ideal or beneficial to
> consumers, consumers can fight back simply by NOT buying into the hype for
> either format

Actually, according to Variety earlier this month, the public ARE deciding:
Companies report a drastically increasing drought in DVD sales over the last
half of this year, the main theory being--

> ...Aha, aha, see??--People *are* sick of disks, it IS going to be all downloads;
> toldja, toldja, neener-neener-neener!

--No, the main theory *being*, that the uncommitted buyers are becoming
more and more afraid of buying "perishable goods" that they fear they
might have to replace in a year's time.

They're buying the hype, all right, they just don't know *which* one to
buy--
And Warner is starting to look increasingly nervous that the spotlight
is now on them to tell the entire industry...Hot, ain't it?

Derek Janssen (isn't it nice to own a PS3?) ^_^

Derek Janssen