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Mara
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      12-07-2007
On 07 Dec 2007 12:14:10 GMT, samuel <> wrote:

>"Mike Easter" <> wrote in
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>> This is
>> not the proper place to be discussing the dissection of
>> headers,

>
>why would you state that
>
>just curious


The spam itself shouldn't have been posted. Headers, though, are perfectly
on-topic here, since there is no such thing in 24HSHD as off-topic except the
usual netiquette. (Posting spam, shouting in all caps, etc.)

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Mike Easter
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      12-07-2007
Mara wrote:
>samuel
>> "Mike Easter"


>>> This is
>>> not the proper place to be discussing the dissection of
>>> headers,


I should have said that differently. I should have said this wasn't the
/best/ place to be discussing headerwork.

>> why would you state that


> The spam itself shouldn't have been posted. Headers, though, are
> perfectly on-topic here, since there is no such thing in 24HSHD as
> off-topic except the usual netiquette. (Posting spam, shouting in all
> caps, etc.)


My personal preferences regarding talking about spam related issues is
to have access to what I call 'the whole enchilada' and that the
questioner not make any 'decisions' about removal of parts of the
enchilada from my view, with the exception of whatever modest and
unambiguous privacy mungeing is done. Worthwhile clues can often be
found everywhere, in the headers and in the body. I want all of what is
found in the message's property details.

The spam posting by the sightings method and the spamcop method provide
access to that enchilada. 'Restrictive' guidelines in the 'wrong group'
that lead to trimming of the enchilada for posting in the 'wrong place'
create missing pieces that I would have wanted to see.

As an example, in the spamcop newsgroups, 'spam' is not allowed in the
discussion groups. The spamcop groups use the tracking URL system for
the whole enchilada or a 'special' spam group which can function like
the nana-sightings group.

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samuel
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      12-08-2007
"Mike Easter" <> wrote in
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> Mara wrote:
>>samuel
>>> "Mike Easter"

>
>>>> This is
>>>> not the proper place to be discussing the dissection of
>>>> headers,

>
> I should have said that differently. I should have said this
> wasn't the /best/ place to be discussing headerwork.


okay I understand now

thanks
>
>>> why would you state that

>
>> The spam itself shouldn't have been posted. Headers, though,
>> are perfectly on-topic here, since there is no such thing in
>> 24HSHD as off-topic except the usual netiquette. (Posting
>> spam, shouting in all caps, etc.)

>
> My personal preferences regarding talking about spam related
> issues is to have access to what I call 'the whole enchilada'
> and that the questioner not make any 'decisions' about removal
> of parts of the enchilada from my view, with the exception of
> whatever modest and unambiguous privacy mungeing is done.
> Worthwhile clues can often be found everywhere, in the headers
> and in the body. I want all of what is found in the message's
> property details.
>
> The spam posting by the sightings method and the spamcop
> method provide access to that enchilada. 'Restrictive'
> guidelines in the 'wrong group' that lead to trimming of the
> enchilada for posting in the 'wrong place' create missing
> pieces that I would have wanted to see.
>
> As an example, in the spamcop newsgroups, 'spam' is not
> allowed in the discussion groups. The spamcop groups use the
> tracking URL system for the whole enchilada or a 'special'
> spam group which can function like the nana-sightings group.
>


 
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