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michael
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      11-29-2007
Hello
I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much of the
data is simply disappearing.
Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way to
retrieve it?
Thanks
Michael


 
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pcbuilder.98
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      11-29-2007
"michael" <> wrote in message
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> Hello
> I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much of

the
> data is simply disappearing.
> Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
> I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
> I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
> What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way to
> retrieve it?
> Thanks
> Michael
>
>

You are using inferior / defective media and your data may be (probably is)
permanently lost. Use Verbatim. Available here:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...s=19&c=us&l=en
or here:
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...347&pfp=BROWSE
I have CD-RW disks that are eight years old. Some of them have data I burned
five years ago. They still retain all of the data I burned then.
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      11-29-2007
"michael" <> wrote:

>Hello
>I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much of the
>data is simply disappearing.
>Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
>I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
>I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
>What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way to
>retrieve it?
>Thanks
>Michael
>


Isobuster is a good program to use
http://www.isobuster.com/

It's been awhile, I think it's free to try but cost to do any of the
advanced options.
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Tony
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      11-29-2007
This question can best be answered by the newsgroup expert Sam Hong
on alt.comp.periphs.cdr

michael wrote:

> Hello
> I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much of the
> data is simply disappearing.
> Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
> I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
> I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
> What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way to
> retrieve it?
> Thanks
> Michael


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Tony
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      11-29-2007
Try this: Dead Disk Doctor Plus Multilingual v1.26

michael wrote:

> Hello
> I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much of the
> data is simply disappearing.
> Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
> I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
> I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
> What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way to
> retrieve it?
> Thanks
> Michael


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      11-29-2007
"pcbuilder.98" <pcbuilder.98@_.com> wrote in
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> "michael" <> wrote in message
> news:1Ws3j.4394$...
>> Hello
>> I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately
>> that much of

> the
>> data is simply disappearing.
>> Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
>> I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data
>> gone. I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
>> What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is
>> there a way to retrieve it?
>> Thanks
>> Michael
>>
>>

> You are using inferior / defective media and your data may
> be (probably is) permanently lost. Use Verbatim. Available
> here:
> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...il.aspx?sku=A0
> 199695&cs=19&c=us&l=en or here:
> http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...sp?product_cod
> e=50284347&pfp=BROWSE I have CD-RW disks that are eight
> years old. Some of them have data I burned five years ago.
> They still retain all of the data I burned then.


I understand CD-RW's are sturdier than CD-R's and this may
account for your experience - although I have 11 (or so) year
old Quantegy (Ampex) CD-R's burned on the first HP burners that
came out and they still work just fine.

Anyway, ALL CD-R's (quality brands, anyway) burned and handled
PROPERLY are supposed to last about a hundred years, aren't
they?

This of course is an endless debate, but I never ever liked
Verbatim, even when they made floppies. I buy TDK's from Costco
- Costco is cheap and eliminates the time wasted deciding which
of the 5 - or 60 - choices to go with - they usually just carry
the best brands. So far, not a single bad TDK disc in 3 or 4
hundred. I would perhaps buy Fuji but can't get them here. Have
used Maxell 650's in the past, about 5 years ago - they're still
fine. Can't find ANY 650 CD-R's any more.

I still have 3M and Fuji floppies from 15 years ago (or more)
and they work fine - that's what we used to buy at work and
SOMEHOW a lot of them ended up in my house ;-#

I *don't understand* people buying stuff like Princo or even
Memorex - what's 5 (or even 10 !!!) cents vs. 700 MB of data
which MAY actually be of some importance?

OP:

I have several rules about burning:

1. Use quality media.
2. Burn at lower speeds. I burn CD-R's at 4 or 8x and CD-RW's at
4.
3. Always make an ISO file on a defragged partition and burn
THAT (a good program lets you do that, in fact will recommend
that you do so).
4. Don't do ANYTHING else on the computer while burning. I even
turn off the wallpaper changer and screensaver.
5. I always use the "verify disc" option AND I even check a few
files manually afterwards. If you didn't do either your discs
may have been badly burned (so to speak) to begin with.

You MAY be able to recover your stuff by going to one of the
data recovery companies that advertise in the back of computer
magazines, but it will cost you plenty.
 
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Tony
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      11-29-2007
You're not qualified to answer this question. His whole problem is he used Roxio
products so your answer is invalid. You need to do a goggle search for the name Sam
Hong. I taught Sam well after i briefly left the newsgroup alt.comp.periphs.cdr

"pcbuilder.98" wrote:

> "michael" <> wrote in message
> news:1Ws3j.4394$...
> > Hello
> > I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much of

> the
> > data is simply disappearing.
> > Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
> > I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
> > I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
> > What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way to
> > retrieve it?
> > Thanks
> > Michael
> >
> >

> You are using inferior / defective media and your data may be (probably is)
> permanently lost. Use Verbatim. Available here:
> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...s=19&c=us&l=en
> or here:
> http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...347&pfp=BROWSE
> I have CD-RW disks that are eight years old. Some of them have data I burned
> five years ago. They still retain all of the data I burned then.
> --
> pcbuilder98


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      11-29-2007
"Tony" <> wrote in message
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> "pcbuilder.98" wrote:
> > "michael" <> wrote in message
> > news:1Ws3j.4394$...
> > > Hello
> > > I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately that much

of
> > the
> > > data is simply disappearing.
> > > Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
> > > I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data gone.
> > > I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
> > > What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is there a way

to
> > > retrieve it?
> > > Thanks
> > > Michael
> > >

> > You are using inferior / defective media and your data may be (probably

is)
> > permanently lost. Use Verbatim. Available here:
> >

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...s=19&c=us&l=en
> > or here:
> >

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...347&pfp=BROWSE
> > I have CD-RW disks that are eight years old. Some of them have data I

burned
> > five years ago. They still retain all of the data I burned then.
> > --
> > pcbuilder98

>
> You're not qualified to answer this question.


How about warning me before you make me spew coffee all over my keyboard?

> His whole problem is he used Roxio
> products so your answer is invalid.


While your problem is painfully obvious.

> You need to do a goggle search for the name Sam
> Hong.


When pigs fly.

> I taught Sam well after i briefly left the newsgroup alt.comp.periphs.cdr


I hope you will do us the favor of leaving very soon.

> --
> Regards Tony... Making usenet better for everyone everyday
>

Exactly how far up your ass is your head anyway?
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      11-29-2007
"thanatoid" <> wrote in message
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> "pcbuilder.98" <pcbuilder.98@_.com> wrote in
> news::
> > "michael" <> wrote in message
> > news:1Ws3j.4394$...
> >> Hello
> >> I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately
> >> that much of

> > the
> >> data is simply disappearing.
> >> Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
> >> I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data
> >> gone. I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
> >> What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is
> >> there a way to retrieve it?
> >> Thanks
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>

> > You are using inferior / defective media and your data may
> > be (probably is) permanently lost. Use Verbatim. Available
> > here:
> > http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...il.aspx?sku=A0
> > 199695&cs=19&c=us&l=en or here:
> > http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...sp?product_cod
> > e=50284347&pfp=BROWSE I have CD-RW disks that are eight
> > years old. Some of them have data I burned five years ago.
> > They still retain all of the data I burned then.

>
> I understand CD-RW's are sturdier than CD-R's and this may
> account for your experience - although I have 11 (or so) year
> old Quantegy (Ampex) CD-R's burned on the first HP burners that
> came out and they still work just fine.


My primary use for CD/DVD is for backup. I always keep at least three backup
sets on hand. When I create a new backup I erase the oldest and start the
cycle again. Better for my wallet and better for the enviorment.

I have never found a use for CD-R's. What do you use them for?

I have yet to find a task that CD-R can do that CD-RW can't. Maybe I haven't
looked hard enough.

> Anyway, ALL CD-R's (quality brands, anyway) burned and handled
> PROPERLY are supposed to last about a hundred years, aren't
> they?


I don't need my data to last that long so that's not a concern for me. My
most important work, my art, is done on film and that will be here in one
hundred years.

> This of course is an endless debate, but I never ever liked
> Verbatim, even when they made floppies. I buy TDK's from Costco
> - Costco is cheap and eliminates the time wasted deciding which
> of the 5 - or 60 - choices to go with - they usually just carry
> the best brands. So far, not a single bad TDK disc in 3 or 4
> hundred. I would perhaps buy Fuji but can't get them here. Have
> used Maxell 650's in the past, about 5 years ago - they're still
> fine. Can't find ANY 650 CD-R's any more.
>
> I still have 3M and Fuji floppies from 15 years ago (or more)
> and they work fine - that's what we used to buy at work and
> SOMEHOW a lot of them ended up in my house ;-#
>
> I *don't understand* people buying stuff like Princo or even
> Memorex


When I bought a Ultra Speed drive in '02 I bought twelve 24x Memorex CD-WR.
Within a year all of then had failed. When I say failed I mean the drive
acted as if I had put a piece of cardboard in the tray. Upon closer
inspection I could see the Memorex logo had over time bleed through the
recordable side of the disks. The disks self destructed. Thankfully I did
not have occasion to need these disks to restore data.

> - what's 5 (or even 10 !!!) cents vs. 700 MB of data
> which MAY actually be of some importance?
>

Indeed. Penny wise and pound foolish.
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> "thanatoid" <> wrote in message
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>> "pcbuilder.98" <pcbuilder.98@_.com> wrote in
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>> > "michael" <> wrote in message
>> > news:1Ws3j.4394$...


>> >> Hello
>> >> I have a lot of data stored on CDs and have noticed lately
>> >> that much of
>> > the
>> >> data is simply disappearing.
>> >> Some of the CDs show as blank when inserted into my PC.
>> >> I have tried using different PCs, but all show the data
>> >> gone. I have burnt these CDs using Roxio application.
>> >> What is the cause that makes the data to disappear, and is
>> >> there a way to retrieve it?
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> > You are using inferior / defective media and your data may
>> > be (probably is) permanently lost. Use Verbatim. Available
>> > here:
>> > http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...il.aspx?sku=A0
>> > 199695&cs=19&c=us&l=en or here:
>> > http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...sp?product_cod
>> > e=50284347&pfp=BROWSE I have CD-RW disks that are eight
>> > years old. Some of them have data I burned five years ago.
>> > They still retain all of the data I burned then.

>>
>> I understand CD-RW's are sturdier than CD-R's and this may
>> account for your experience - although I have 11 (or so) year
>> old Quantegy (Ampex) CD-R's burned on the first HP burners that
>> came out and they still work just fine.

>
> My primary use for CD/DVD is for backup. I always keep at least three
> backup sets on hand. When I create a new backup I erase the oldest and
> start the cycle again. Better for my wallet and better for the
> enviorment.
>
> I have never found a use for CD-R's. What do you use them for?


Can't speak for anybody else, but I use them for burning music CDs.

> I have yet to find a task that CD-R can do that CD-RW can't. Maybe I
> haven't looked hard enough.


Either you don't listen to much music, or you have better equipment than
I do. My home DVD/CD players do not recognize CD-RW nor do the (stock)
CD players in either of my cars.

All of the above will play CD-R no problem.

>> Anyway, ALL CD-R's (quality brands, anyway) burned and handled
>> PROPERLY are supposed to last about a hundred years, aren't
>> they?

>
> I don't need my data to last that long so that's not a concern for me.
> My most important work, my art, is done on film and that will be here
> in one hundred years.
>
>> This of course is an endless debate, but I never ever liked
>> Verbatim, even when they made floppies. I buy TDK's from Costco
>> - Costco is cheap and eliminates the time wasted deciding which
>> of the 5 - or 60 - choices to go with - they usually just carry
>> the best brands. So far, not a single bad TDK disc in 3 or 4
>> hundred. I would perhaps buy Fuji but can't get them here. Have
>> used Maxell 650's in the past, about 5 years ago - they're still
>> fine. Can't find ANY 650 CD-R's any more.
>>
>> I still have 3M and Fuji floppies from 15 years ago (or more)
>> and they work fine - that's what we used to buy at work and
>> SOMEHOW a lot of them ended up in my house ;-#
>>
>> I *don't understand* people buying stuff like Princo or even
>> Memorex

>
> When I bought a Ultra Speed drive in '02 I bought twelve 24x Memorex
> CD-WR. Within a year all of then had failed. When I say failed I mean
> the drive acted as if I had put a piece of cardboard in the tray. Upon
> closer inspection I could see the Memorex logo had over time bleed
> through the recordable side of the disks. The disks self destructed.
> Thankfully I did not have occasion to need these disks to restore
> data.
>
>> - what's 5 (or even 10 !!!) cents vs. 700 MB of data
>> which MAY actually be of some importance?
>>

> Indeed. Penny wise and pound foolish.


 
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