MCSE: Security requirements

Greetings all,

I have been putting off finishing up my MCSE:Security for far too long.
I have passed the 70-298 exam, but I lack the "other" tests required
under the "Security Group: Core Security" area. My original plan was to
take the 70-299 and complete my Security+, but when I was poking around
in the certification planner I saw that the CISSP is listed as a
potential candidate for an elective. I immediately fired off an email
to MCPHelp but in the mean time, does anyone have any
feedback/experience regarding this? The "official" Microsoft learning
page lists only Security+ as a valid elective.

My thoughts were that either the CISSP and the Security+ would possibly
count, allowing me to skip the 70-299 altogether, or at least use the
CISSP so that I don't have to take the Security+ and then take the
70-299 to complete the specialization. I'll also post what MCPHelp says
when I get that response back.

Thanks,

MG

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Mostly Gizzards <> prattled ceaselessly in
news:umriq$:

> Greetings all,
>
> I have been putting off finishing up my MCSE:Security for far too
> long.
> I have passed the 70-298 exam, but I lack the "other" tests required
> under the "Security Group: Core Security" area. My original plan was
> to take the 70-299 and complete my Security+, but when I was poking
> around in the certification planner I saw that the CISSP is listed as
> a potential candidate for an elective. I immediately fired off an
> email to MCPHelp but in the mean time, does anyone have any
> feedback/experience regarding this? The "official" Microsoft
> learning page lists only Security+ as a valid elective.
>
> My thoughts were that either the CISSP and the Security+ would
> possibly count, allowing me to skip the 70-299 altogether, or at least
> use the CISSP so that I don't have to take the Security+ and then take
> the 70-299 to complete the specialization. I'll also post what
> MCPHelp says
> when I get that response back.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MG
>

The CISSP should fill the requirement but are you prepared for what it
will take? For one thing, you have to be sponsored by an existing CISSP
to even take the exam. They are also incredibly expensive.

--
Catwalker
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com
"Definitely not wearing any underwear."

catwalker63

catwalker63 wrote:
> Mostly Gizzards <> prattled ceaselessly in
> news:umriq$:
>
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> I have been putting off finishing up my MCSE:Security for far too
>> long.
>> I have passed the 70-298 exam, but I lack the "other" tests required
>> under the "Security Group: Core Security" area. My original plan was
>> to take the 70-299 and complete my Security+, but when I was poking
>> around in the certification planner I saw that the CISSP is listed as
>> a potential candidate for an elective. I immediately fired off an
>> email to MCPHelp but in the mean time, does anyone have any
>> feedback/experience regarding this? The "official" Microsoft
>> learning page lists only Security+ as a valid elective.
>>
>> My thoughts were that either the CISSP and the Security+ would
>> possibly count, allowing me to skip the 70-299 altogether, or at least
>> use the CISSP so that I don't have to take the Security+ and then take
>> the 70-299 to complete the specialization. I'll also post what
>> MCPHelp says
>> when I get that response back.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> MG
>>
>
> The CISSP should fill the requirement but are you prepared for what it
> will take? For one thing, you have to be sponsored by an existing CISSP
> to even take the exam. They are also incredibly expensive.
>


I'm already a CISSP. And yeah, it was painful. <cringe>

MG

Mostly Gizzards

"Mostly Gizzards" <> wrote in message
news:ulk%...
>
> I'm already a CISSP. And yeah, it was painful. <cringe>
>

Amen to that...

Grog... also CISSP...

Grog in Ohio

catwalker63 wrote:
> Mostly Gizzards <> prattled ceaselessly in
> news:umriq$:
>
>Snipped
>
> The CISSP should fill the requirement
>

Still waiting on a response from Microsoft, I hope you're right.

MG

Mostly Gizzards

Here lies the answer I received. I don't think I should take this as
the final answer, and perhaps I can dig deeper. Any suggestions? Do
you think our little Trika can assist?

Hello James,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding CISSP Certification.

It would be our pleasure to assist you with this matter.

At this time are not accepting any third-party certifications, at the
same time we will continue to review potential qualifiers. Please watch
our website for more information on third-party certifications by
visiting http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/

To stay up to date with the latest training and certification news, you
may wish to subscribe to the MCP NewsFlash. This newsletter delivers
monthly updates on MCP program announcements, certification benefits,
special promotions, exam information and more. Subscribing to the MCP
NewsFlash is the easiest way to stay current on Microsoft certification
news. For subscription information please visit
http://microsoft.com/traincert/newsletters/

If there is anything else we can do for you, please let us know. Thank
you for contacting Microsoft.


Kanika

http://www.microsoft.com/learning

Mostly Gizzards

Mostly Gizzards <> prattled ceaselessly in
news:#:

> Here lies the answer I received. I don't think I should take this as
> the final answer, and perhaps I can dig deeper. Any suggestions? Do
> you think our little Trika can assist?
>
> Hello James,
>
> Thank you for your e-mail regarding CISSP Certification.
>
> It would be our pleasure to assist you with this matter.
>
> At this time are not accepting any third-party certifications, at the
> same time we will continue to review potential qualifiers. Please watch
> our website for more information on third-party certifications by
> visiting http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/
>
> To stay up to date with the latest training and certification news, you
> may wish to subscribe to the MCP NewsFlash. This newsletter delivers
> monthly updates on MCP program announcements, certification benefits,
> special promotions, exam information and more. Subscribing to the MCP
> NewsFlash is the easiest way to stay current on Microsoft certification
> news. For subscription information please visit
> http://microsoft.com/traincert/newsletters/
>
> If there is anything else we can do for you, please let us know. Thank
> you for contacting Microsoft.
>
>
> Kanika
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning
>

I'm sorry to hear that. Personally, I think, if you have the CISSP, who
the fsck cares if you're MS certified.

--
Catwalker
MCNGP #43
www.mcngp.com
"Definitely not wearing any underwear."

catwalker63

"Mostly Gizzards" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Here lies the answer I received. I don't think I should take this as the
> final answer, and perhaps I can dig deeper. Any suggestions? Do you
> think our little Trika can assist?
>
> Hello James,
>
> Thank you for your e-mail regarding CISSP Certification.
>
> It would be our pleasure to assist you with this matter.
>
> At this time are not accepting any third-party certifications, at the same
> time we will continue to review potential qualifiers. Please watch our
> website for more information on third-party certifications by visiting
> http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/
>
> To stay up to date with the latest training and certification news, you
> may wish to subscribe to the MCP NewsFlash. This newsletter delivers
> monthly updates on MCP program announcements, certification benefits,
> special promotions, exam information and more. Subscribing to the MCP
> NewsFlash is the easiest way to stay current on Microsoft certification
> news. For subscription information please visit
> http://microsoft.com/traincert/newsletters/
>
> If there is anything else we can do for you, please let us know. Thank you
> for contacting Microsoft.
>
>
> Kanika
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning

I don't care what Kanika says, the cert planner is what is used. The cert
planner clearly shows CISSP (ISC2) as a valid elective. There are plenty of
examples of items on the cert planner that are not spelled out on the
learning pages. You have already passed 298, so you need two items in the
Security Group-Core section, one of which is CISSP (ISC2). Does the cert
planner show a check mark next to CISSP for you?

I would approach it that way, not asking IF it is accepted, but WHY is it
not checked for you. Tell MS that according to the cert planner, it shows
CISSP as an option, which you hold but it is not selected. Find out what
you need to do to get it selected. You may have to go through your CISSP
and ask them to associate it with your MCPID on Microsoft, I am not sure of
the procedure.

Once you get it checked on the cert planner, then determine what other
elective you want to complete, either 299 or Security+ or one of the other
ISA options.

John R

John R

John R wrote:

> I would approach it that way, not asking IF it is accepted, but WHY is it
> not checked for you. Tell MS that according to the cert planner, it shows
> CISSP as an option, which you hold but it is not selected. Find out what
> you need to do to get it selected. You may have to go through your CISSP
> and ask them to associate it with your MCPID on Microsoft, I am not sure of
> the procedure.

> John R
>
>

Thanks for the kick in the pants, John. I'll call them today and see
what I can get stirred up.

MG

Mostly Gizzards

>
> I'm sorry to hear that. Personally, I think, if you have the CISSP, who
> the fsck cares if you're MS certified.
>

Thanks, Cat. It's strictly a personal goal, but it has been nagging me
for a while. Like 2 years...

MG

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