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Hello Experts,

I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.

I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.

Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
Any idea?
I am not considering anything except Canon.
Thanks for help.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:42:06 -0800, Pelican <>
wrote:

>Hello Experts,
>
>I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
>from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.
>
>I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
>full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
>decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
>I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
>1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
>to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
>working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
>2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
>of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
>3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
>4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.
>
>Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
>Any idea?
>I am not considering anything except Canon.
>Thanks for help.

I could advise a camera model that would fit all those requirements. Including
it being housed in a 100% titanium body for durability in the most extreme,
harsh, and rugged of environments. But it couldn't make use of your old lenses,
and it's not a newer model, and it's not a digital slr design nor is it a Canon.
It's an excellent P&S camera. It also has more aperture and zoom range than what
you require or are used to. I've already taken over 120,000 photos with it under
all those adverse conditions and some you haven't even thought of yet. It has
also never needed any repairs. I'm not anti-Canon, I own one. For what I bought
the Canon for it does very well. I'm just relaying some facts about a better
camera that exists.

Oh well. Your loss.

I'm sure someone will advise some "acceptable" Canon substitute. (You couldn't
convince me of that though.)

Pelican wrote:

> Hello Experts,
Troll warning #1...

> I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
Troll warning #2...

> I am not considering anything except Canon.
Troll warning #3...

> Thanks for help.
No problem, thanks for asking.

On Nov 11, 6:07 pm, Reginald d. <dregin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:42:06 -0800, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Hello Experts,
>
> >I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
> >from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.
>
> >I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
> >full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
> >decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
> >I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
> >1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
> >to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
> >working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
> >2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
> >of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
> >3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
> >4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.
>
> >Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
> >Any idea?
> >I am not considering anything except Canon.
> >Thanks for help.
>
> I could advise a camera model that would fit all those requirements. Including
> it being housed in a 100% titanium body for durability in the most extreme,
> harsh, and rugged of environments. But it couldn't make use of your old lenses,
> and it's not a newer model, and it's not a digital slr design nor is it a Canon.
> It's an excellent P&S camera. It also has more aperture and zoom range than what
> you require or are used to. I've already taken over 120,000 photos with it under
> all those adverse conditions and some you haven't even thought of yet. It has
> also never needed any repairs. I'm not anti-Canon, I own one. For what I bought
> the Canon for it does very well. I'm just relaying some facts about a better
> camera that exists.
>
> Oh well. Your loss.
>
> I'm sure someone will advise some "acceptable" Canon substitute. (You couldn't
> convince me of that though.)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks Reginald, but you know, I already offended many photographers
by excluding all other brands other than Canon but my narrow view
(perhaps commercial) can only permit Canon model as this company is
around for so many years, they certainly know what they are doing but
I surely agree with you that the stuff we ever wanted did not exist!
P&S camera is not what I am looking for anyway, I already have one of
those and I exactly know what it can or can't.

May be, I still have to wait for an answer from someone who already
abused Canon EOS 5D or better.

On Nov 11, 6:54 pm, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 6:07 pm, Reginald d. <dregin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:42:06 -0800, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Hello Experts,
>
> > >I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
> > >from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.
>
> > >I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
> > >full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
> > >decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
> > >I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
> > >1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
> > >to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
> > >working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
> > >2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
> > >of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
> > >3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
> > >4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.
>
> > >Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
> > >Any idea?
> > >I am not considering anything except Canon.
> > >Thanks for help.
>
> > I could advise a camera model that would fit all those requirements. Including
> > it being housed in a 100% titanium body for durability in the most extreme,
> > harsh, and rugged of environments. But it couldn't make use of your old lenses,
> > and it's not a newer model, and it's not a digital slr design nor is it a Canon.
> > It's an excellent P&S camera. It also has more aperture and zoom range than what
> > you require or are used to. I've already taken over 120,000 photos with it under
> > all those adverse conditions and some you haven't even thought of yet. It has
> > also never needed any repairs. I'm not anti-Canon, I own one. For what I bought
> > the Canon for it does very well. I'm just relaying some facts about a better
> > camera that exists.
>
> > Oh well. Your loss.
>
> > I'm sure someone will advise some "acceptable" Canon substitute. (You couldn't
> > convince me of that though.)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks Reginald, but you know, I already offended many photographers
> by excluding all other brands other than Canon but my narrow view
> (perhaps commercial) can only permit Canon model as this company is
> around for so many years, they certainly know what they are doing but
> I surely agree with you that the stuff we ever wanted did not exist!
> P&S camera is not what I am looking for anyway, I already have one of
> those and I exactly know what it can or can't.
>
> May be, I still have to wait for an answer from someone who already
> abused Canon EOS 5D or better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What the hell is this Fred? Only an one-track minded people can react
this way...here is a dollar for you..go and play with your 1.3 Mega
pixel Yamahochi and please do not bother others who are seriously
after real information...

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:59:43 -0800, Pelican <>
wrote:

>On Nov 11, 6:54 pm, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 6:07 pm, Reginald d. <dregin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:42:06 -0800, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > >Hello Experts,
>>
>> > >I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
>> > >from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.
>>
>> > >I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
>> > >full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
>> > >decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
>> > >I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
>> > >1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
>> > >to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
>> > >working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
>> > >2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
>> > >of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
>> > >3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
>> > >4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.
>>
>> > >Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
>> > >Any idea?
>> > >I am not considering anything except Canon.
>> > >Thanks for help.
>>
>> > I could advise a camera model that would fit all those requirements. Including
>> > it being housed in a 100% titanium body for durability in the most extreme,
>> > harsh, and rugged of environments. But it couldn't make use of your old lenses,
>> > and it's not a newer model, and it's not a digital slr design nor is it a Canon.
>> > It's an excellent P&S camera. It also has more aperture and zoom range than what
>> > you require or are used to. I've already taken over 120,000 photos with it under
>> > all those adverse conditions and some you haven't even thought of yet. It has
>> > also never needed any repairs. I'm not anti-Canon, I own one. For what I bought
>> > the Canon for it does very well. I'm just relaying some facts about a better
>> > camera that exists.
>>
>> > Oh well. Your loss.
>>
>> > I'm sure someone will advise some "acceptable" Canon substitute. (You couldn't
>> > convince me of that though.)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Thanks Reginald, but you know, I already offended many photographers
>> by excluding all other brands other than Canon but my narrow view
>> (perhaps commercial) can only permit Canon model as this company is
>> around for so many years, they certainly know what they are doing but
>> I surely agree with you that the stuff we ever wanted did not exist!
>> P&S camera is not what I am looking for anyway, I already have one of
>> those and I exactly know what it can or can't.
>>
>> May be, I still have to wait for an answer from someone who already
>> abused Canon EOS 5D or better.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>What the hell is this Fred? Only an one-track minded people can react
>this way...here is a dollar for you..go and play with your 1.3 Mega
>pixel Yamahochi and please do not bother others who are seriously
>after real information...

No problem! Let me know how that dust and sand works out for you when you try to
change lenses in that desert. Make sure there's a camera repair shop at the next
oasis. Or when you get the slightest bit of condensation on that mirror and
shutter mechanism so it freezes rock solid while near that glacier.

Do TRY to enjoy your digital SLRs in those conditions. And I mean that. You're
really going to have TRY to enjoy them. Because actually enjoying them is
totally out of the question.

You'll learn ... the hard way required for stupid people.

LOL

On Nov 11, 7:08 pm, Reginald d. <dregin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:59:43 -0800, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 11, 6:54 pm, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 11, 6:07 pm, Reginald d. <dregin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:42:06 -0800, Pelican <soumyadip.bhattacha...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > >Hello Experts,
>
> >> > >I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
> >> > >from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.
>
> >> > >I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
> >> > >full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
> >> > >decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
> >> > >I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
> >> > >1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
> >> > >to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
> >> > >working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
> >> > >2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
> >> > >of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
> >> > >3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
> >> > >4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.
>
> >> > >Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
> >> > >Any idea?
> >> > >I am not considering anything except Canon.
> >> > >Thanks for help.
>
> >> > I could advise a camera model that would fit all those requirements. Including
> >> > it being housed in a 100% titanium body for durability in the most extreme,
> >> > harsh, and rugged of environments. But it couldn't make use of your old lenses,
> >> > and it's not a newer model, and it's not a digital slr design nor is it a Canon.
> >> > It's an excellent P&S camera. It also has more aperture and zoom range than what
> >> > you require or are used to. I've already taken over 120,000 photos with it under
> >> > all those adverse conditions and some you haven't even thought of yet. It has
> >> > also never needed any repairs. I'm not anti-Canon, I own one. For what I bought
> >> > the Canon for it does very well. I'm just relaying some facts about a better
> >> > camera that exists.
>
> >> > Oh well. Your loss.
>
> >> > I'm sure someone will advise some "acceptable" Canon substitute. (You couldn't
> >> > convince me of that though.)- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >> Thanks Reginald, but you know, I already offended many photographers
> >> by excluding all other brands other than Canon but my narrow view
> >> (perhaps commercial) can only permit Canon model as this company is
> >> around for so many years, they certainly know what they are doing but
> >> I surely agree with you that the stuff we ever wanted did not exist!
> >> P&S camera is not what I am looking for anyway, I already have one of
> >> those and I exactly know what it can or can't.
>
> >> May be, I still have to wait for an answer from someone who already
> >> abused Canon EOS 5D or better.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >What the hell is this Fred? Only an one-track minded people can react
> >this way...here is a dollar for you..go and play with your 1.3 Mega
> >pixel Yamahochi and please do not bother others who are seriously
> >after real information...
>
> No problem! Let me know how that dust and sand works out for you when you try to
> change lenses in that desert. Make sure there's a camera repair shop at the next
> oasis. Or when you get the slightest bit of condensation on that mirror and
> shutter mechanism so it freezes rock solid while near that glacier.
>
> Do TRY to enjoy your digital SLRs in those conditions. And I mean that. You're
> really going to have TRY to enjoy them. Because actually enjoying them is
> totally out of the question.
>
> You'll learn ... the hard way required for stupid people.
>
> LOL- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am sure that I am quite delighted to spent some time with a very
smart pal like you but personally I think you are just a bloody smarty
ass....well you did showed a bit of your knowledge about all those you
babbled about but, please. Mr. Photographer what would you take to
**** off from here? Perhaps I should come and clean your toilet? Or
clear our your gutter? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.....LOL
Just play with your one cent P&S stuff and let us alone...

Pelican wrote:
> I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible

Then why are you posting to Usenet? Usenet serves neither of those two
requirements.

jue

In article < .com>,
Pelican <> wrote:

> Hello Experts,
>
> I need this information very urgently and as accurately as possible
> from Canon users. Based on this, I will invest on it.
>
> I have Canon EOS 5D in mind for several obvious reasons such as price,
> full frame, high resolution, high sensitivity etc. along with few
> decent lenses such as EF 17-40 and perhaps an EF Telephoto.
> I want to abuse this model as much as I can which include:
> 1) Operate on e very low and high temperature. Firstly, I am planning
> to travel to Iceland and Greenland for photography. Can this model be
> working perfectly on -30/-40 degree Celsius?
> 2) In couple of years, I also have a plan to travel to Egypt and parts
> of Sahara where temperature can well above 50 degree Celsius.
> 3) Taking photos in rain such as rain forests.
> 4) Taking photos under moderately dark condition.
>
> Price difference is huge between regular camera shops and Internet.
> Any idea?
> I am not considering anything except Canon.
> Thanks for help.

Try posting your questions on the Canon camera forum at
http://www.dpreview. You might also read the specs on Canon's web site.

Although the professional models aren't necessarily better at taking
pictures, they are better sealed and more apt to stand up to physical abuse.
The thermal abuse you describe would probably be about the same across the
board, mostly pertinent to battery life on the cold side.

Facing travel like that, I would be inclined to bring two bodies so that
if one fails you have a backup. Do you have a canon body that you are using
now? The 1DMKII is going for a pretty good price now in the used market, so
that would be one option. The 5D is also selling at a discount and that
would be another, though you will have less reach with a full frame sensor.
Both will be obsolete in a few years, but to get newer models would really
jack up the price premium. Whatever you decide, remember also to bring along
a hard drive backup system for your files.

Dave