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Not4wood
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      11-03-2007
Evening all,

I have noticed mention of Firmware Updates for the DSLR's namely the Canon
Rebel XTI. If a Rebel XTI or Nikon D80 is purchased do they automatically
come with the latest updates to the Firmware or are we supposed to check and
try to update them anyway?

I dont presently have a DSLR but will purchase one very soon and I am
starting to wonder how I can make sure I have the latest updates in the
camera when I make my purchase? Also, does the Nikon D80 have an update as
well?

I'm talking about the regular programming from the manufacturer and not any
add-ons that are around.
I haven't made my final decision as to what I'm getting till I have the
camera's in my hand and see how they feel and what I should look for in
advance.
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Thnx in advance.

Mark
Not4wood


 
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Pat
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      11-03-2007
On Nov 2, 9:18 pm, "Not4wood" <no_mgottes@spam_verizon.net> wrote:
> Evening all,
>
> I have noticed mention of Firmware Updates for the DSLR's namely the Canon
> Rebel XTI. If a Rebel XTI or Nikon D80 is purchased do they automatically
> come with the latest updates to the Firmware or are we supposed to check and
> try to update them anyway?
>
> I dont presently have a DSLR but will purchase one very soon and I am
> starting to wonder how I can make sure I have the latest updates in the
> camera when I make my purchase? Also, does the Nikon D80 have an update as
> well?
>
> I'm talking about the regular programming from the manufacturer and not any
> add-ons that are around.
> I haven't made my final decision as to what I'm getting till I have the
> camera's in my hand and see how they feel and what I should look for in
> advance.
> --
> Thnx in advance.
>
> Mark
> Not4wood


To the best of my knowledge, the cameras come with the latest firmware
available at the time of manufacturing. If there are updates after
that, you can install them but they usually only correct bugs.

Updating is pretty easy, at least on my Canons. You download the
update to a memory card (through your card reader). Then you put in
the card and turn on the camera. That's it. NBD.

 
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Robert Coe
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      11-03-2007
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:18:52 GMT, "Not4wood" <no_mgottes@spam_verizon.net>
wrote:
: Evening all,
:
: I have noticed mention of Firmware Updates for the DSLR's namely the Canon
: Rebel XTI. If a Rebel XTI or Nikon D80 is purchased do they automatically
: come with the latest updates to the Firmware or are we supposed to check and
: try to update them anyway?
:
: I dont presently have a DSLR but will purchase one very soon and I am
: starting to wonder how I can make sure I have the latest updates in the
: camera when I make my purchase? Also, does the Nikon D80 have an update as
: well?
:
: I'm talking about the regular programming from the manufacturer and not any
: add-ons that are around.
: I haven't made my final decision as to what I'm getting till I have the
: camera's in my hand and see how they feel and what I should look for in
: advance.

If you buy it in person, turn it on and look at the menu. The latest firmware
for the XTi is 1.1.1.

Bob
 
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ray
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      11-03-2007
On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:18:52 +0000, Not4wood wrote:

> Evening all,
>
> I have noticed mention of Firmware Updates for the DSLR's namely the Canon
> Rebel XTI. If a Rebel XTI or Nikon D80 is purchased do they automatically
> come with the latest updates to the Firmware or are we supposed to check and
> try to update them anyway?


That would depend on how long they were in the retail chain - no one on
that end is going to check to see if it's the latest version - I'm sure it
was given the latest version available when it came off the line - it's
ultimately up to you to check.

>
> I dont presently have a DSLR but will purchase one very soon and I am
> starting to wonder how I can make sure I have the latest updates in the
> camera when I make my purchase? Also, does the Nikon D80 have an update as
> well?


Not just dslrs either, all digital cameras. It is really not rocket
science to update one, what are you afraid of? If it is that big of a deal
for you, check the date of the last update and try to get a camera
manufactured after that.

>
> I'm talking about the regular programming from the manufacturer and not any
> add-ons that are around.
> I haven't made my final decision as to what I'm getting till I have the
> camera's in my hand and see how they feel and what I should look for in
> advance.


 
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David J Taylor
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      11-03-2007
ray wrote:
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> Not just dslrs either, all digital cameras. It is really not rocket
> science to update one, what are you afraid of? If it is that big of a
> deal for you, check the date of the last update and try to get a
> camera manufactured after that.


You're right - no big deal - but if you haven't done one before the
warnings about the camera not working if the update fails (loosing power
half way through, for example), may well put you off. Probably more than
half the digital cameras I own have been updated, and without issue.

Cheers,
David


 
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Not4wood
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      11-03-2007
Thanks all. Seems the puter is not the only one that has to have drivers
updated. Looks to me that some bug needed fixing, but are these updates
also available for other things as well or is it just to fix a bug?

What I'm trying to ask is are these updates used to keep making advances in
the programming of the camera like we do to the computer when we update the
video or sound drivers and so on?

So, the updated fix is now on the Memory Card and everytime the Camera is
turned on this update will now be loaded into the camera. Interesting, and
if there are any improvements into the latest update but not by the
Manufacturer we also do it the same way? So how come I dont see that many
little patches available like we do for everything else in Computer Land?

Not4wood




"David J Taylor" <(E-Mail Removed)-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk>
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> ray wrote:
> []
>> Not just dslrs either, all digital cameras. It is really not rocket
>> science to update one, what are you afraid of? If it is that big of a
>> deal for you, check the date of the last update and try to get a
>> camera manufactured after that.

>
> You're right - no big deal - but if you haven't done one before the
> warnings about the camera not working if the update fails (loosing power
> half way through, for example), may well put you off. Probably more than
> half the digital cameras I own have been updated, and without issue.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>



 
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David J Taylor
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      11-03-2007
Not4wood wrote:
> Thanks all. Seems the puter is not the only one that has to have
> drivers updated. Looks to me that some bug needed fixing, but are
> these updates also available for other things as well or is it just
> to fix a bug?


Usually just bug fixes. Most manufacturers would prefer to sell you a new
model to get new features! There are some 3rd party add-ons today as
well, but not strictly firmware updates. I've not used these.

> What I'm trying to ask is are these updates used to keep making
> advances in the programming of the camera like we do to the computer
> when we update the video or sound drivers and so on?


Some advances, mostly bug-fixes.

> So, the updated fix is now on the Memory Card and everytime the
> Camera is turned on this update will now be loaded into the camera.


No. There is usually a special switch-on sequence which causes the
firmware in the camera to be reprogrammed with the updated firmware from
the card.

> Interesting, and if there are any improvements into the latest update
> but not by the Manufacturer we also do it the same way? So how come
> I dont see that many little patches available like we do for
> everything else in Computer Land?
> Not4wood


Only a limited set of cameras allow dynamic updates, such as those used by
the current 3rd party software. I recall there has been some 3rd party
firmware updates in the past, which used the same blow-the-eprom mechanism
as the office firmware updates.

Cheers,
David


 
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Shawn Hirn
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      11-03-2007
In article <00QWi.59$lx.3@trndny05>,
"Not4wood" <no_mgottes@spam_verizon.net> wrote:

> Evening all,
>
> I have noticed mention of Firmware Updates for the DSLR's namely the Canon
> Rebel XTI. If a Rebel XTI or Nikon D80 is purchased do they automatically
> come with the latest updates to the Firmware or are we supposed to check and
> try to update them anyway?


No. It depends on when the camera was actually manufactured. Same with
computers, by the way. If the camera was sent out of the factory before
an update and sat on a store's shelf for a while, it is not going to
have the update that occurred after it was produced.

> I dont presently have a DSLR but will purchase one very soon and I am
> starting to wonder how I can make sure I have the latest updates in the
> camera when I make my purchase? Also, does the Nikon D80 have an update as
> well?


Honestly, its not worth worrying about. Installing updates is a simple
process. Usually, you just download the update file to your computer,
put it on a freshly formatted memory card, then insert the card into the
camera and turn it on.
 
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Shawn Hirn
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      11-03-2007
In article <zHUWi.41461$(E-Mail Removed)> ,
"David J Taylor"
<(E-Mail Removed)-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:

> ray wrote:
> []
> > Not just dslrs either, all digital cameras. It is really not rocket
> > science to update one, what are you afraid of? If it is that big of a
> > deal for you, check the date of the last update and try to get a
> > camera manufactured after that.

>
> You're right - no big deal - but if you haven't done one before the
> warnings about the camera not working if the update fails (loosing power
> half way through, for example), may well put you off. Probably more than
> half the digital cameras I own have been updated, and without issue.


Just plug the camera in or make sure the battery is fully charged. Its
really no big deal, but if you find the process troublesome, then buy
your camera at a good local store and just ask them to update it for you.
 
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Shawn Hirn
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      11-03-2007
In article <ajYWi.2483$%n.1510@trndny07>,
"Not4wood" <no_mgottes@spam_verizon.net> wrote:

> Thanks all. Seems the puter is not the only one that has to have drivers
> updated. Looks to me that some bug needed fixing, but are these updates
> also available for other things as well or is it just to fix a bug?


Go to Canon's web site and it will tell you exactly what each update
does.
 
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