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"Charlie Self" <> wrote in message
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> On Oct 25, 6:31 pm, "William Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Cynicor" <j...tru.p....@sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:HZWdnfhb5-...
>>
>> > William Graham wrote:
>> >> Well, as long as they aren't teaching their children to kill Americans
>> >> in
>> >> order to get into heaven, I'm all for them and their economy. I do
>> >> wish,
>> >> however, that they would stop cutting down the rainforests in order to
>> >> fill my mail box with advertisements......
>>
>> > Direct mail has actually taken a real nosedive since the 2001 anthrax
>> > panic. People just stopped opening them, and response collapsed.
>>
>> Well, you'd never know it to look in my mailbox....Easily 2/3 of my mail
>> by
>> weight is ads for useless stuff that I never need, and would never buy in
>> a
>> million years. I bet they cut down one rainforest tree every year just
>> for
>> my household. I never complain about the e-mail spam I get....I even look
>> through it to make sure there isn't something I might need in it, and
>> certainly never delete it out of hand.....
>
> Rain forest trees don't make good paper. Only recently has wood pulp
> from ANY hardwood become acceptable in the process. Almost all paper
> is made from pine, fir, hemlock, or tulip poplar these days.
>
> The guy with the Ipe deck is the one who cost the rain forest a tree
> or two.
>
Well, most of the ones I have had/seen were redwood, but I don't think the
one I have now is.....I don't know, but I think it might be cedar......My
friend about 20 miles South of here has a new one made out of some kind of
plastic that imitates wood, but I don't know what the ecological
significance of that is either.....It might cost the ecology more in
petroleum than wood does.....

"Charlie Self" <> wrote in message
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> On Oct 25, 10:16 pm, "William Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Pudentame" <no....@no.were.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>> news:47213b68$0$20586$...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Cynicor wrote:
>> >> William Graham wrote:
>> >>> "Cynicor" <j...tru.p....@sp.eake.a.sy.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:HZWdnfhb5-...
>> >>>> William Graham wrote:
>> >>>>> Well, as long as they aren't teaching their children to kill
>> >>>>> Americans
>> >>>>> in order to get into heaven, I'm all for them and their economy. I
>> >>>>> do
>> >>>>> wish, however, that they would stop cutting down the rainforests in
>> >>>>> order to fill my mail box with advertisements......
>> >>>> Direct mail has actually taken a real nosedive since the 2001
>> >>>> anthrax
>> >>>> panic. People just stopped opening them, and response collapsed.
>>
>> >>> Well, you'd never know it to look in my mailbox....Easily 2/3 of my
>> >>> mail
>> >>> by weight is ads for useless stuff that I never need, and would never
>> >>> buy in a million years. I bet they cut down one rainforest tree every
>> >>> year just for my household. I never complain about the e-mail spam I
>> >>> get....I even look through it to make sure there isn't something I
>> >>> might
>> >>> need in it, and certainly never delete it out of hand.....
>>
>> >> You didn't give your real name to Soldier of Fortune or Newsmax
>> >> Magazine,
>> >> did you??
>>
>> >> We used to use direct mail extensively, and response rates just died
>> >> in
>> >> late 2001. Never came back.
>>
>> > Most of the crap that comes to my mailbox is open flyers like the crap
>> > that comes in the middle of the Sunday newspaper; nothing sealed up
>> > that
>> > anthrax could hide in ... except for the credit card offers.
>>
>> > I keep the recycling bin right under the mailbox on the porch. All the
>> > crap goes straight in there ... again except for the credit card
>> > offers.
>> > Those get opened and the page that has my name and address goes into
>> > the
>> > shredder. The rest stays right out there on the porch in the recycling
>> > bin.
>>
>> Recycling is good, but they can't recycle the ink, and their ink bill
>> must
>> be astronomical, judging from what I have to pay for about 1 oz. of black
>> ink for my HP printer.....I wonder how many gallons of black ink a big
>> paper
>> like the New York Times has to use every day....And how much does it cost
>> them? I'd like to know who supplies it, too.....
>
> Bet on it not being not even an appreciable fraction of what you pay
> for printer ink. Too, check your hands the next time you rea a paper
> and you'll have an idea why it is comparatively cheap.
>
Yes. If they had to pay $20 an ounce for it, they would have to sell their
property, buildings and souls just for one day's edition......

Jer wrote:
> Pudentame wrote:

>> I keep the recycling bin right under the mailbox on the porch. All the
>> crap goes straight in there ... again except for the credit card
>> offers. Those get opened and the page that has my name and address
>> goes into the shredder. The rest stays right out there on the porch in
>> the recycling bin.
>
> A number of my neighbors would, after shredding the personal pages,
> return mail the remaining junk in the pre-paid envelopes. Since they
> paid to have it delivered, they might as well pay to have it returned. I
> don't think enough people do this for them to notice.
>
>

Years ago, you could glue that pre-paid envelope to a brick and they'd
have to pay the postage. Now-a-days if you try that you're a terrorist.