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In article <>,
Petrowhisky.30yqvc@no-mx.<a href="ht...htalkz.com</a> says...
> WRT54G is a SOHO product which satisfies only the home or small office
> needs....
>
> It can control the internet access based on some parameters like Time
> ,date etc...
>
> It has both NAT and Firewall...

It is a TOY, at best, and while it meets some requirements to be a
firewall it does not provide the protection that a typical firewall
appliance would/does.

The unit is a toy.

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Leythos <> writes:

> In article <>,
> Petrowhisky.30yqvc@no-mx.<a href="ht...htalkz.com</a> says...
> > WRT54G is a SOHO product which satisfies only the home or small office
> > needs....
> >
> > It can control the internet access based on some parameters like Time
> > ,date etc...
> >
> > It has both NAT and Firewall...
>
> It is a TOY, at best, and while it meets some requirements to be a
> firewall it does not provide the protection that a typical firewall
> appliance would/does.
>
> The unit is a toy.

Dial back the clock only a handful of years though, that hardware plus
open source firmware has functionality only the most austere of
"firewalls" at the time had.

It's all semantics.

YES, pedants, we get that the more expensive boxes are better, but
whether something's a firewall or not is clearly open to a broad range
of definition.

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In article <>, says...
> whether something's a firewall or not is clearly open to a broad range
> of definition.

And the WRT is a NAT Rourter with Firewall LIKE functions.

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On Oct 11, 10:31 am, Maniaque <maniaqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 6:31 am, Leythos <v...@nowhere.lan> wrote:
>
> > In article <1192088852.392958.21...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> > maniaqu...@gmail.com says...
>
> > A NAT is not a firewall at all, it's basic routing - Most non-technical
> > types call NAT Routers firewalls, they are not.
>
> That I understand, but I'm always a little confused about what the
> difference Exactly is... a firewall is a device that only allows
> connections that you want to allow - a NAT is a device that allows
> outgoing connections arbitrarily, but normally (or only sometimes? see
> the STUN information Chris mentioned) prevents arbitrary incoming
> connections. Most home routers additionally claim to have a "firewall"
> function that you can turn on / off (including the WRT54G) - when do
> you decide what is and what is not a ffirewall? I really would like to
> know, it's something that's puzled me for years. Some things are
> clearly not a firewall at all, like a "Full-cone" NAT router. Some
> things are clearly a firewall first, and anything else after, like one
> of those Cisco devices. But aren't most home routers somewhere in-
> between?
>
A true Firewall is a packet and port filter and is able to filter in
both directions. Basically a firewall regulates the flow of traffic
between 2 or more computer networks.
>
> > a WRT54g is not a firewall, it's a nat router. NAT blocks "unsolicited"
> > inbound traffic, that's all.
>
> not true. the WRT54G can block outgoing connections based on any
> number of specified parameters, and then it has all those extra fancy
> features that I don't understand
>
> Firewall Protection: Enable Disable
> Additional Filters
> Filter Proxy Filter Cookies
> Filter Java Applets Filter ActiveX
> Block Portscans Filter P2P Applications
> Block WAN Requests
> Block Anonymous Internet Requests
> Filter Multicast
> Filter Internet NAT Redirection
> Filter IDENT(Port 113)
>
It is still not a TRUE firewall because it can't filter by port.
>
> > No, port forwarding is what your problem is - if you forward ports then
> > you expose your computer/network and that's how people reach your
> > computer to do things you don't want.
>
> Only if they get past the intended security of the service in
> question, right?
>
Port forwarding is used to allow unsolicited inbound traffic to pass
through to a server listening on a certain port. Port forwarding only
forwards traffic on the specified port. So if you hosting email then
you would enable port forwarding on port 25.
>
> > You should learn to post in one group or to cross post so that your
> > thread is easy to work with for multiple groups that you've done this
> > in.
>
> Yep, thanks.
>
> Tao


Hope that is helpful,

Hex