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"Neil Green" <> wrote in message
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> If it's not a stupid question, why do you feel
> compelled to use WMP?
> There are many mutimedia players around, some free,
> without the nags and limitations of WMP.
> Many of them are much better than WMP.
> Also, if you already have the videos on DVD+RW then
> there is no special software required to copy these to
> your hard drive.
> Windows explorer will do the job fine.
>
>
>


Every time I have tried stuff not MS recommended normally by people that
have some ax to grind with Bill, it seems to me to just be a pain. So I just
stick with what comes on the computer and normally it works. The WMP works
great, playing from the DVD.

As to copy, that's no problem, I can make all kinds of copies, they just
will never play. It becomes a file the WMP can't use. That was what the
software "claimed" it would do, none of the 5 I tried did, although they
sure tried hard to get you to buy their "full version".

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:34:21 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:

> "Ish" <> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:02:19 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
>>
>>> I want to copy some DVD+RW's, (stuff recorded on TV) to my Hard drive, so
>>> I
>>> can make a copy. I "thought" this would be simple but it seems not so.
>>> This
>>> machine has Roxi, but it tells me my "version will not do this". They
>>> have a
>>> version that I guess is better for $100.00. I went to CNET and tried 2
>>> different trial versions of programs that claimed they would do this.
>>> They
>>> were both $39.95 if you wanted to keep them. I would be glad to pay that,
>>> but both would not work. I would tell it to copy the DVD, and one took
>>> :30
>>> the other took an hour, then the file they created would not open with
>>> WMP
>>> which they both claimed they would. They have a bunch more of these on
>>> CNET
>>> but I thought it might be easier to see if someone knows of one that
>>> actually works.???
>>
>> Alex, This works for me, I just tried it since reading your post. Just
>> copy the VOB files from the dvd to your hard drive and change them from
>> VOB to MPG. They will play on WMP or any other MPG player like Power DVD,
>> Nero show time, etc. These programs will play VOB files from you HDD too.
>> Only works with non copy protected DVDs.
>>
>> To copy the VOB files, right click on the drive with the dvd in "my
>> computer" and choose explore, then open the \VIDEO_TS folder, then
>> highlight any or all VOB (VTS_01_1.VOB) files and copy it/them to a new
>> folder on your HDD.
>>
>>
>
> Ok I put in a recorded DVD opened VIDEO_TS folder,
>
> This is what's there:
>
> VIDEO_TS VIDEO_TS VIDEO_TS.INFO VTS_01_0
>
>
>
>
>
> VTS_01_0.INFO VTS_01_1 VTS_01_2
>
>
>
> I copied all of these to another folder, if any of them are not needed I
> guess I can delete it? All this came from one DVD+RW with just one show
> recorded on it. How do I change them to MPG? After that do you just click
> one of them to play? A couple of these icons have the WMP icon, if I click
> them it opens the WMP but it says "the file has an extension (.BUP) not
> recognized by WMP.

Looks like your not displaying file extensions. In "my computer" go to
tools/view. and uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"... Then
click "Apply to all Folders" then click Ok.

Go to "View" and click "Details". and you should see in the video_ts
folder something like VIDEO_TS.BUP VIDEO_TS.IFO VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_1.VBO VTS_01_1.BUP VTS_01_1.IFO, etc all on seperate lines.
On mine the VTS_01_1.VBO is the one with the video that you want to save.
If you ckick it, it will probly open in WMP. To be save I would change the
VOB to mpg and right click on the file and click open with, then choose
the player you want to use from the list.

"Hal Clark" <> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:34:21 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
>
> Looks like your not displaying file extensions. In "my computer" go to
> tools/view. and uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"... Then
> click "Apply to all Folders" then click Ok.
>
> Go to "View" and click "Details". and you should see in the video_ts
> folder something like VIDEO_TS.BUP VIDEO_TS.IFO VIDEO_TS.VOB
> VTS_01_1.VBO VTS_01_1.BUP VTS_01_1.IFO, etc all on seperate lines.
> On mine the VTS_01_1.VBO is the one with the video that you want to save.
> If you ckick it, it will probly open in WMP. To be save I would change the
> VOB to mpg and right click on the file and click open with, then choose
> the player you want to use from the list.
>
>


DAMN!!! It WORKS!! LOL

Now why the hell did it have to be this hard? <G>

You are right the file marked VTS_01_1.VBO opens the WMP and plays the
stuff. There is also 6 other things there, very small files, can I just
delete them? Are they anything? Just to see what would happen I tried
copying just the VTS_01_1.VBO file to another folder, then it will open the
player but nothing happens. Going back to the original folder it works fine.
So I take it when I make a "copy" I have to move all 7 files together?
Anyway at least it actually works now, thanks guys!! I had all but given up
on this.

"Alex Clayton" <> wrote in message
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> "Neil Green" <> wrote
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>>
>> If it's not a stupid question, why do you feel
>> compelled to use WMP?
>> There are many mutimedia players around, some free,
>> without the nags and limitations of WMP.
>> Many of them are much better than WMP.
>> Also, if you already have the videos on DVD+RW then
>> there is no special software required to copy these
>> to
>> your hard drive.
>> Windows explorer will do the job fine.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Every time I have tried stuff not MS recommended
> normally by people that have some ax to grind with
> Bill, it seems to me to just be a pain. So I just
> stick with what comes on the computer and normally
> it works. The WMP works great, playing from the DVD.
>
> As to copy, that's no problem, I can make all kinds
> of copies, they just will never play. It becomes a
> file the WMP can't use. That was what the software
> "claimed" it would do, none of the 5 I tried did,
> although they sure tried hard to get you to buy
> their "full version".

Just use Windows Explorer.
Create a folder on your drive under the name of the
movie with a subfolder called video_ts.
Copy everything from the video_ts folder on your DVD
RW to the video_ts folder on your hard disk.
To play the file from your hard disk you will need a
DVD decoder installed, as Windows doesn't natively
support DVD playback.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...vice/0072.mspx
VLC (Free software) will play the DVD from your hard
disk.
No need to purchase anything.
I have no axe to grind with Microsoft, but their
preferred solution isn't always the best.

"Neil Green" <> wrote in message
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>
> Just use Windows Explorer.
> Create a folder on your drive under the name of the movie with a subfolder
> called video_ts.
> Copy everything from the video_ts folder on your DVD RW to the video_ts
> folder on your hard disk.
> To play the file from your hard disk you will need a DVD decoder
> installed, as Windows doesn't natively support DVD playback.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...vice/0072.mspx
> VLC (Free software) will play the DVD from your hard disk.
> No need to purchase anything.
> I have no axe to grind with Microsoft, but their preferred solution isn't
> always the best.
>
>

Thanks but I got it now. With what Hal told me to do along with Ish, it
actually plays from the HD. Was a PITA, but now that I can do it, it's a
snap.
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."

[Lazarus Long]

"Alex Clayton" <> wrote in message
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> "Neil Green" <> wrote
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>>
>> I read Hal's response, it's a perfectly suitable
>> workaround if you have no alternative.
>> With VLC there is no need to renane files or in
>> fact do anything other than copy the DVD to your
>> drive, atart VLC and use the "open directory"
>> command and point it to your video_ts directory
>> then sit back and watch it.
>> It's your call of course but it seems far simpler
>> to me.
>>
>
> Thanks, but as I am sure you can tell by now my
> prowess with a PC is probably what the average 2nd
> grader has now days. <G> I learned how to use one in
> 2000 buy buying one and a "dummies" book. Only
> learned what I was interested in so even what I was
> doing here was pretty much over my head. Now that it
> works I may get brave later and play with it some
> more but I am always scared one day I am going to be
> changing stuff around and all of a sudden the damn
> thing will not work any more. Especially the desk
> top I was using at home to do this, I just bought
> the damn thing, don't want to break it already. This
> laptop is a couple years old so I may use it to try
> playing with it, as if I screw it up, no big deal
> since I plan to get another one shortly before they
> cut off letting them be made with XP.
> Over the years I have read many people talking
> about the way news readers other than OE were
> "better", browsers other than IE were better, and so
> on, but when I try them only ever having learned
> what comes with Windows it has me feeling like I am
> starting at scratch again with that first PC, that I
> can VERY close to taking out and shooting a couple
> times when I was trying to learn to make it work.
> <VBG>
> I do appreciate the help though, believe me!!!!
> --
> Without question, the greatest invention in the
> history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the
> wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does
> not go nearly as well with pizza.
> --Dave Barry

Fair enough Alex, whatever you're comfortable with.
For the record I use both IE and OE and find they both
work very well.
In general Microsoft software is well written and user
friendly, but in some cases there is definately better
software available.
I don't use WMP at all, although my daughter's both do
and they love it.
I find that it's slower to load, has less support for
a wide variety of formats and the DRM stuff built into
it these days is a bitch.
VLC for video, Winamp for audio is my preferred
combination, but to each their own.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:53:48 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:

> "Hal Clark" <> wrote in message
> news...
>> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:34:21 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
>>
>> Looks like your not displaying file extensions. In "my computer" go to
>> tools/view. and uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"... Then
>> click "Apply to all Folders" then click Ok.
>>
>> Go to "View" and click "Details". and you should see in the video_ts
>> folder something like VIDEO_TS.BUP VIDEO_TS.IFO VIDEO_TS.VOB
>> VTS_01_1.VBO VTS_01_1.BUP VTS_01_1.IFO, etc all on seperate lines.
>> On mine the VTS_01_1.VBO is the one with the video that you want to save.
>> If you ckick it, it will probly open in WMP. To be save I would change the
>> VOB to mpg and right click on the file and click open with, then choose
>> the player you want to use from the list.
>>
>>
>
>
> DAMN!!! It WORKS!! LOL
>
> Now why the hell did it have to be this hard? <G>
>
> You are right the file marked VTS_01_1.VBO opens the WMP and plays the
> stuff. There is also 6 other things there, very small files, can I just
> delete them? Are they anything? Just to see what would happen I tried
> copying just the VTS_01_1.VBO file to another folder, then it will open the
> player but nothing happens. Going back to the original folder it works fine.
> So I take it when I make a "copy" I have to move all 7 files together?
> Anyway at least it actually works now, thanks guys!! I had all but given up
> on this.

The settings on you computer may be different than mine, but I have only
copyed the VOB with the video I wanted to watch and it played just fine. I
think what I would do is go back, make another folder and copy the vob
files one at a time, open each file after each copy to see what happens.
How many VOB files have you got? The one with the video you want will
probably be the largest.

By the way, if you do download Video lan player and install it you wont be
sorry. Its a self extring Exe file, all you have to do is download it and
click on the file and it installes for you. It's a great program. To play
a vob just open VLC and drag and drop you movie to it from the containing
folder

http://www.videolan.org/

"Ish" <> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:53:48 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:
>
> The settings on you computer may be different than mine, but I have only
> copyed the VOB with the video I wanted to watch and it played just fine. I
> think what I would do is go back, make another folder and copy the vob
> files one at a time, open each file after each copy to see what happens.
> How many VOB files have you got? The one with the video you want will
> probably be the largest.
>
> By the way, if you do download Video lan player and install it you wont be
> sorry. Its a self extring Exe file, all you have to do is download it and
> click on the file and it installes for you. It's a great program. To play
> a vob just open VLC and drag and drop you movie to it from the containing
> folder
>
> http://www.videolan.org/
>

Ok sounds great. Before I came to work today I was playing around with it a
little making some copies of stuff I wanted and it was working fine just
setting a folder for each show. Tomorrow when I get home I will do some
practice with it on my laptop.
Thanks again, I had looked at several places on the net and found all kinds
of different idea's but this was the first one that actually worked. I will
download the player on this old machine and give it a try.
Thanks again!!!!
--
"Little girls, like butterflies, need no excuse".

Lazarus Long