Velocity Reviews - Computer Hardware Reviews

Velocity Reviews > Newsgroups > Computing > Computer Support > Server Spam At Bottom Of Messages

Reply
Thread Tools

Server Spam At Bottom Of Messages

 
 
Blinky the Shark
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
never seen them.

I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
"there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
throw at him. Which ones do that?


--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project moved to this site August 28th:
http://improve-usenet.org
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
dadiOH
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because
> he's never seen them.
>
> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off
> the "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's
> done, and he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of
> surprisingly limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know
> they're seen here, but I can't remember what servers they're from
> so I don't know what to search on to come up with a couplethree
> Message-ID headers to throw at him. Which ones do that?


IIRC, EasyNews is one.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Geoff Realname
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
> never seen them.
>
> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
> throw at him. Which ones do that?
>
>

Teranews? I know I'm ntl but I am genuinely trying to be helpful
 
Reply With Quote
 
Mike Easter
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
Geoff Realname wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>> never seen them.


>> Which ones do that?


> Teranews? I know I'm ntl but I am genuinely trying to be helpful


Ha!

You are correct, sir!

And, what is worse is that 'free' teranews is not free but commercial
and is also a poorly administered newsserver and the advertising trailer
also breaks most sig trimmers and because most text newsers could get a
much better deal buy buying an economical non-expiring block than paying
tera anything for the privilege of dragging around the ugly/obnoxious
sig-breaking usenet spamvertisement.


--
Mike Easter


--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

 
Reply With Quote
 
Whiskers
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
On 2007-09-25, Geoff Realname <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>> never seen them.
>>
>> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
>> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
>> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
>> throw at him. Which ones do that?
>>
>>

> Teranews? I know I'm ntl but I am genuinely trying to be helpful


You're not wrong either:

"Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com"

is their tag. They usually have the string teranews in their MIDs if that
helps to find them ...

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
 
Reply With Quote
 
Mara
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
On 25 Sep 2007 09:01:08 GMT, Blinky the Shark <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>never seen them.
>
>I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
>"there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
>he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
>throw at him. Which ones do that?


Yahoo does, in e-mail. Here's a sample:

__________________________________________________ __________________________________
It's here! Your new message!
Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

Several of the usenet gateways do too, but the anonymous ones are filtered by
Supernews so you'd have to go to google to get some.

MSN does too.

AVG will do this in e-mail too.

Also:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/robots_txt/3064340.htm
http://forums.songstuff.com/index.php?showtopic=8135

You can even make your own (gah):

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ysvc3j

--
The smallest feline is a masterpiece.
--Leonardo da Vinci
 
Reply With Quote
 
Tester
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
Here is an email from an ancient free netzero.com account of mine to a
verizon.net account of mine. I changed all instances of my account
names to "censored".

I dunno what happens if you get a pay account but at least the free
accounts add "server spam". I assume the same is true of juno.com
which is the same company. I've seen "server spam" on other webmail
accounts. (Netzero gives access to POP3 and probably SMTP if you pay.)
Way back when I used Netzero for free 10-hours-a-month dial-in with
banners, as an alternative to my main dial-in account, I did have
access to SMTP and they did have a server banner like the one below.

>Received: from outbound-mail.dca.untd.com ([64.136.47.15])
> by vms050.mailsrvcs.net
> (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006))
> with SMTP id <(E-Mail Removed)> for
> http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed); Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:01:38 -0500 (CDT)
>Received: from webmail09.dca.untd.com (webmail09.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.149])
> by smtpout03.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABDRUJWLAW8LV7S for
> < (E-Mail Removed)> (sender <(E-Mail Removed)>); Tue,
> 25 Sep 2007 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT)
>Received: (from (E-Mail Removed)) by webmail09.dca.untd.com (jqueuemail)
> id MYG9X5K8; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:59:50 -0700 (PDT)
>Received: from [96.232.9.136] by webmail09.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Tue,
> 25 Sep 2007 14:59:11 GMT
>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:59:11 +0000 (GMT)
>From: "(E-Mail Removed)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>Subject: This is a test
>X-Originating-IP: [64.136.47.15]
>X-Originating-IP: [96.232.9.136]
>To: (E-Mail Removed)
>Message-id: <(E-Mail Removed)>
>MIME-version: 1.0
>X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0
>Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
>Content-disposition: inline
>X-UNTD-OriginStamp: Lh9lhahQWgx+pRtz4TfS2fEjceajXkLuDhRtdWllzdW+a85lMD pKAQ==
>X-UOL-TAGLINE: true
>X-ContentStamp: 1:1:1167997467
>X-MAIL-INFO:
> 54f9a54c492c814939352c81cd3d15357d0d7dac652d0c65e5 b1b1bd0c11290849816da53c95492
>999dc8541e188c9c9b5c9e1f9
>X-UNTD-Peer-Info:
> 10.171.12.149|webmail09.dca.untd.com|webmail09.dca .untd.com|(E-Mail Removed)
>
>
>This is a test
>
>_________________________________________________ ____________
>Be your own boss today! Go to Technical School. Click here.
>http://3rdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TG...YZhq95CmXtBMe=
>gMwzdvb6i9fK1GN8fbO8IBtTsw6/
>
>

 
Reply With Quote
 
why?
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007

On 25 Sep 2007 09:01:08 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

>I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>never seen them.
>
>I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
>"there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
>he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
>throw at him. Which ones do that?


Not caring much about dates or if it's a web forum post or usenet
server. That's too much work


Search 24HSHD for the usual

stupid sig

broken sig

silly sig


Subject: Hard Drive ATA-4 Question
From: (Tufftoy)
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
User-Agent: newsSync (HowToFixComputers.com) 262420
Message-ID: <(E-Mail Removed)>
Date: 23 Aug 2004 15:08:08 -0400
==============
Posted through www.HowToFixComputers.com/bb - free access to hardware
troubleshooting newsgroups.


Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
Subject: Re: Firewall under atack
From: Sultan
References: <ojFJb.104$(E-Mail Removed)>
Message-ID: <Xns946592FEFB91Asultanofcyberhotmail@209.25.157.1 30>
Date: 3 Jan 2004 14:27:01 -0600
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----




This 1 is common for email as well.

From: "DRW"
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
Subject: Batch file shortcut or keystroke combo
Message-ID:<WRmQb.112971$(E-Mail Removed) le.rogers.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:52:06 GMT
************************************************** **************************
********
The information transmitted is intended only for the person or
entity to which it is addressed and may contain adult, confidential
or privileged material. Any review, retransmission,
dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in
reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other
than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received
this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
material from any computer.


************************************************** ***********************


Some apps, add footers to email and don't even know usenet isn't email
and it's just broken anyway.

From: "Nowhere"
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
Subject: Banner
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:48:28 +0100
Message-ID: <can5oj$6nn$(E-Mail Removed)>
---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 12/06/2004



From: "Thomas Bridges"
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
Subject: address book in Outlook Express
Message-ID: <1wTmh.7339$(E-Mail Removed)>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:31:13 -0500
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.
It has removed 444 spam emails to date.
Paying users do not have this message in their emails.
Try SPAMfighter for free now!




Me
 
Reply With Quote
 
Alfred
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:31:36 -0700, "Mike Easter" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Geoff Realname wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>>> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>>> never seen them.

>
>>> Which ones do that?

>
>> Teranews? I know I'm ntl but I am genuinely trying to be helpful

>
>Ha!
>
>You are correct, sir!
>
>And, what is worse is that 'free' teranews is not free but commercial


Their 'free' service is free. They make a one off registration charge
and after that there is no more to pay. The have a full paid for
service which I understand is quite good.

The 'sig' has just appeared in the last couple of years. Wasn't there
when I registered with them.

>and is also a poorly administered newsserver and the advertising trailer
>also breaks most sig trimmers and because most text newsers could get a
>much better deal buy buying an economical non-expiring block than paying
>tera anything for the privilege of dragging around the ugly/obnoxious
>sig-breaking usenet spamvertisement.
>

Unfortunately they can't get a better deal unless it is free or the
registration charge is lower than that of Teranews which ISTR is about
2 or they can pay the same and get more bandwidth.

Otherwise I agree. It's poorly maintained and loses posts like a
baggage handler at Heathrow
Still handy for when ones primary news server goes titsup which mine
does all too frequently
>


 
Reply With Quote
 
Mike Easter
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      09-25-2007
Alfred wrote:
> "Mike Easter"


>> And, what is worse is that 'free' teranews is not free but commercial

>
> Their 'free' service is free. They make a one off registration charge
> and after that there is no more to pay. The have a full paid for
> service which I understand is quite good.


$3.95 'one-time' is not free. A text newser can buy 10 non-expiring
gigs of news for $5, which would last them a lifetime (one time) and is
a much much better deal.

> The 'sig' has just appeared in the last couple of years. Wasn't there
> when I registered with them.


Correct. Teranews misrepresents the 'baggage' which the registrant is
going to be burdened with in addition to the registration fee. Tera
should state upfront that the 'cost' of the $4 account is $4 plus
advertising trailer -- many text newsers would either use a better free
newsserver or buy a non-expiring block instead of giving $4 to tera for
an account which is 'unusable'.

The burden of the condition of the sig-busting trailer is that a text
newser's posts are found to be objectionable, so fellow text newsers
harangue the teranews poster until they quit using it.

>> and is also a poorly administered newsserver and the advertising
>> trailer also breaks most sig trimmers and because most text newsers
>> could get a much better deal buy buying an economical non-expiring
>> block than paying tera anything for the privilege of dragging around
>> the ugly/obnoxious sig-breaking usenet spamvertisement.
>>

> Unfortunately they can't get a better deal unless it is free or the
> registration charge is lower than that of Teranews which ISTR is about
> 2 or they can pay the same and get more bandwidth.


The 'good news' about tera is that the $4 registration allows you up to
50 megs of binary dl/s per day and unlimited uploading including
binaries. The bad news is the ad trailer and frequent server problems.

> Otherwise I agree. It's poorly maintained and loses posts like a
> baggage handler at Heathrow
> Still handy for when ones primary news server goes titsup which mine
> does all too frequently


I highly recommend an alternate newsserver. There are plenty of free
ones depending on your needs. Some carry binaries but don't allow
posting. Some are text only, no binaries, with posting. If I were
going to recommend an alternate newsserver to someone, it wouldn't be
tera for text or binaries, for downloading or posting/uploading.

Tera's big idea about 'publicity' is to brand themselves as a poorly
admin/ed newsserver which misrepresents itself and is a bad netizen.

--
Mike Easter

 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
css "div" bottom of window or bottom of content. Dan HTML 1 04-04-2008 09:40 AM
CSS to put text at bottom of browser window, or page bottom, whichever is lower? Noozer HTML 1 03-13-2006 10:35 AM



Advertisments