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"Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
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> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because
> he's
> never seen them.
>
> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off
> the
> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done,
> and
> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers
> to
> throw at him. Which ones do that?


Teranews is well known to be a spamming NSP. They, at least, put
their spam within a legit signature. I believe Newsfeeds is the same
but they do NOT put their spam in a signature (i.e., there is no
sigdash delimiter line before their spam).

Tell the other user that he configured his NNTP client to hide
signatures. Regardless of what he sees, that doesn't affect what you
see. When reporting a defect on a product that I was testing, I've
had developers tell me that the product works on their host. So I
tell them, great, go package up their host and we will send it to the
customer. Turned out they had DLLs as a result of installing a SDK
that customers would not have. It is irrelevant that it works on
their host as that has no effect on preventing failure on someone
else's host.

Congratulate the other user that they don't have to be bothered
looking at the signatures, most of which are just ego-stroking fluff.

dadiOH wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because
>> he's never seen them.
>>
>> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off
>> the "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's
>> done, and he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of
>> surprisingly limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know
>> they're seen here, but I can't remember what servers they're from
>> so I don't know what to search on to come up with a couplethree
>> Message-ID headers to throw at him. Which ones do that?
>
> IIRC, EasyNews is one.

Thanks!

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Geoff Realname wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>> never seen them.
>>
>> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
>> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
>> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
>> throw at him. Which ones do that?
>>
>>
> Teranews? I know I'm ntl but I am genuinely trying to be helpful

Thanks, and especially thanks given the handicap.

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Mara wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2007 09:01:08 GMT, Blinky the Shark <> wrote:
>
>>I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>>promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>>never seen them.
>>
>>I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>>just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
>>"there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
>>he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>>limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>>here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>>what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
>>throw at him. Which ones do that?
>
> Yahoo does, in e-mail. Here's a sample:

Thanks. But as "I know they're seen here" and "a couplethree Message-ID
headers to throw at him" show, I'm looking for news server ad sigs.

A couple have been provided, so I'm all set.

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Tester wrote:
> Here is an email from an ancient free netzero.com account of mine to a
> verizon.net account of mine. I changed all instances of my account
> names to "censored".

Thanks. But as "I know they're seen here" and "a couplethree Message-ID
headers to throw at him" show, I'm looking for news server ad sigs.

Some have been provided. Thanks to all.

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why? wrote:
>
> On 25 Sep 2007 09:01:08 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>>I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>>promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
>>never seen them.
>>
>>I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>>just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
>>"there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
>>he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>>limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>>here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>>what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
>>throw at him. Which ones do that?
>
> Not caring much about dates or if it's a web forum post or usenet
> server. That's too much work

<snip>

Copied those. Thanks.

> This 1 is common for email as well.

Not relevant, but thanks.


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VanguardLH wrote:
> "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
>> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because
>> he's
>> never seen them.
>>
>> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
>> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off
>> the
>> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done,
>> and
>> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
>> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
>> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
>> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers
>> to
>> throw at him. Which ones do that?
>
>
> Teranews is well known to be a spamming NSP. They, at least, put
> their spam within a legit signature. I believe Newsfeeds is the same
> but they do NOT put their spam in a signature (i.e., there is no
> sigdash delimiter line before their spam).

That's the first mention I've seen of newsfeeds. Thanks!

> Tell the other user that he configured his NNTP client to hide
> signatures. Regardless of what he sees, that doesn't affect what you
> see. When reporting a defect on a product that I was testing, I've

I'll mention that. Good catch.

> Congratulate the other user that they don't have to be bothered
> looking at the signatures, most of which are just ego-stroking fluff.

Some can be useful.
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
> never seen them.
>
> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
> throw at him. Which ones do that?

THANKS to all for your input; I have the pointers I need now.


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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:01:08 +0000, Blinky the Shark wrote:

> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
> never seen them.
>
> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
> throw at him. Which ones do that?

Huh???????

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In article <>,
lid says...
> I've got some guy in another group claiming that no servers ever add
> promos for themselves beneath the sigs of their users -- because he's
> never seen them.
>
> I would not be alone in here in knowing that some feeds certainly do
> just that. Notice how cleverly I worded that so's not to set off the
> "there is no we/us" troopers. I've told the guy that it's done, and
> he's gonna come back and argue from his perspective of surprisingly
> limited experience. So help me out, here, eh? I know they're seen
> here, but I can't remember what servers they're from so I don't know
> what to search on to come up with a couplethree Message-ID headers to
> throw at him. Which ones do that?

Many non-ISP servers at "spam" or sales pitches to the bottoms of users
posts for Usenet, some may do it for web interfaces also.

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at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive.../t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.