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>>> print u"äöü"
äöü
>>> print [u"äöü"]
[u'\xe4\xf6\xfc']

Python seems to treat non-ASCII chars in a list differently from the
one in the outside of a list.
I think this behavior is so inconvenient and actually makes debugging
work harder.

Is this an intentional? Is there any doc discussing about this?

Thanks.

On Sep 17, 12:08 am, js <ebgs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> print u"äöü"
> äöü
> >>> print [u"äöü"]
>
> [u'\xe4\xf6\xfc']
>
> Python seems to treat non-ASCII chars in a list differently from the
> one in the outside of a list.
> I think this behavior is so inconvenient and actually makes debugging
> work harder.
>
> Is this an intentional? Is there any doc discussing about this?

It's intentional. __str__ of a list uses the __repr__ of its
elements. This helps reduce confusion (e.g., between ['a', 'b, c']
and ['a, b', 'c']).

Thank you for your quick reply.

> It's intentional. __str__ of a list uses the __repr__ of its
> elements. This helps reduce confusion (e.g., between ['a', 'b, c']
> and ['a, b', 'c']).
That's make sence, but it's also true that
sometimes we want to see the contents of a list in pretty format.
So for now I need to write and use crappy mylist like this.

class mylist(list):
def __str__(self):
return '[' + ', '.join(self) + ']'

l = mylist([u"äöü", u"äöü", u"äöü"])
print unicode(l)


very ugly, but just works.

js wrote:
> That's make sence, but it's also true that
> sometimes we want to see the contents of a list in pretty format.

That may be true, but most of the time not (at least not me) --
lists are no pretty printing instrument, but a container.

> So for now I need to write and use crappy mylist like this.
>
> class mylist(list):
> def __str__(self):
> return '[' + ', '.join(self) + ']'
>
> l = mylist([u"äöü", u"äöü", u"äöü"])
> print unicode(l)
>
>
> very ugly, but just works.

What's wrong with

print ",".join(mylist)

? Also, the your solution isn't really "ugly" in my opinion.

Regards,


Björn

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