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I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback adapter trick. Vista was already "running" so I did this: 1. Removed all protocols. 2. Removed the network adapter. 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. 4. Rebooted. End result: Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. Lessons learned: 1. Don't remove all protocols. 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? 3. Vista is worse than crap. Final question: Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is straight into turdland  Bye, Skybuck. |
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Skybuck:
Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F  and select "Last Known Good Configuration? Carlos "Skybuck Flying" wrote: > Hello, > > I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback > adapter trick. > > Vista was already "running" so I did this: > > 1. Removed all protocols. > > 2. Removed the network adapter. > > 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. > > 4. Rebooted. > > End result: > > Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. > > 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. > > 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. > > 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. > > 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. > > Lessons learned: > > 1. Don't remove all protocols. > > 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? > > 3. Vista is worse than crap. > > Final question: > > Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? > > Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? > > Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is straight > into turdland > > Bye, > Skybuck. > > > |
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He's WAY past Last Known Good.
Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were able to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may be, it's too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing to the horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a different kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But LKG is of very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad that you can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a single account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't have a password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way any more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Carlos" <> wrote in message news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... > Skybuck: > Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? > Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "Last Known> Good Configuration? > Carlos > > "Skybuck Flying" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback >> adapter trick. >> >> Vista was already "running" so I did this: >> >> 1. Removed all protocols. >> >> 2. Removed the network adapter. >> >> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. >> >> 4. Rebooted. >> >> End result: >> >> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. >> >> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. >> >> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. >> >> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. >> >> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. >> >> Lessons learned: >> >> 1. Don't remove all protocols. >> >> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? >> >> 3. Vista is worse than crap. >> >> Final question: >> >> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? >> >> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? >> >> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is straight >> into turdland >> >> Bye, >> Skybuck. >> >> >> |
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LKG only restores one registry key, not the whole registry, so if the
problem is with any key except HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet you will have to use system restore. LKG also restores the previous driver situation, so it is good if a newly installed driver is suspected. System restore has the advantage of restoring the entire registry and system files in addition to the driver files. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message news:ECB3C2EC-9C31-419D-B87A-... > He's WAY past Last Known Good. > Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a > little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were > able to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may > be, it's too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing > to the horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a > different kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But > LKG is of very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad > that you can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a > single account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't > have a password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way > any more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Carlos" <> wrote in message > news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... >> Skybuck: >> Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? >> Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "Last >> Known >> Good Configuration? >> Carlos >> >> "Skybuck Flying" wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback >>> adapter trick. >>> >>> Vista was already "running" so I did this: >>> >>> 1. Removed all protocols. >>> >>> 2. Removed the network adapter. >>> >>> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. >>> >>> 4. Rebooted. >>> >>> End result: >>> >>> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. >>> >>> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. >>> >>> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. >>> >>> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. >>> >>> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. >>> >>> Lessons learned: >>> >>> 1. Don't remove all protocols. >>> >>> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? >>> >>> 3. Vista is worse than crap. >>> >>> Final question: >>> >>> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? >>> >>> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? >>> >>> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is straight >>> into turdland >>> >>> Bye, >>> Skybuck. >>> >>> >>> > |
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Charlie:
I have just learnt two things from your post: 1.- The real use of LKG 2.- The meaning of the expression "horked up". Had to resort to Wikipedia in order to understand it Now, getting back to Skybuck's issue. He still has the System Restore alternative, right? Carlos "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > He's WAY past Last Known Good. > > Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a > little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were able > to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may be, it's > too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing to the > horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a different > kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But LKG is of > very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad that you > can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a single > account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't have a > password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way any > more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Carlos" <> wrote in message > news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... > > Skybuck: > > Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? > > Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "Last Known> > Good Configuration? > > Carlos > > > > "Skybuck Flying" wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback > >> adapter trick. > >> > >> Vista was already "running" so I did this: > >> > >> 1. Removed all protocols. > >> > >> 2. Removed the network adapter. > >> > >> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. > >> > >> 4. Rebooted. > >> > >> End result: > >> > >> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. > >> > >> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. > >> > >> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. > >> > >> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. > >> > >> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. > >> > >> Lessons learned: > >> > >> 1. Don't remove all protocols. > >> > >> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? > >> > >> 3. Vista is worse than crap. > >> > >> Final question: > >> > >> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? > >> > >> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? > >> > >> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is straight > >> into turdland > >> > >> Bye, > >> Skybuck. > >> > >> > >> > |
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Is it known, then - or well defined, at which point the system considers
itself to be up? Is it when it displays the log-in screen, or only after you've logged in? Tony. . . "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message news:ECB3C2EC-9C31-419D-B87A-... > He's WAY past Last Known Good. > > Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a > little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were able > to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may be, it's > too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing to the > horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a different > kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But LKG is of > very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad that you > can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a single > account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't have a > password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way any > more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Carlos" <> wrote in message > news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... > > Skybuck: > > Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? > > Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "LastKnown > > Good Configuration? > > Carlos > > > > "Skybuck Flying" wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback > >> adapter trick. > >> > >> Vista was already "running" so I did this: > >> > >> 1. Removed all protocols. > >> > >> 2. Removed the network adapter. > >> > >> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. > >> > >> 4. Rebooted. > >> > >> End result: > >> > >> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. > >> > >> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. > >> > >> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. > >> > >> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. > >> > >> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. > >> > >> Lessons learned: > >> > >> 1. Don't remove all protocols. > >> > >> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? > >> > >> 3. Vista is worse than crap. > >> > >> Final question: > >> > >> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? > >> > >> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? > >> > >> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is straight > >> into turdland > >> > >> Bye, > >> Skybuck. > >> > >> > >> > |
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I don't think it resets the LKG until you actually log in. As John points
out, it's only a single registry key - HKLM\system\current control set. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message news:uK9$PZM%... > Is it known, then - or well defined, at which point the system considers > itself to be up? > > Is it when it displays the log-in screen, or only after you've logged in? > > > Tony. . . > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message > news:ECB3C2EC-9C31-419D-B87A-... >> He's WAY past Last Known Good. >> >> Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a >> little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were > able >> to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may be, > it's >> too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing to the >> horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a > different >> kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But LKG is of >> very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad that you >> can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a single >> account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't have a >> password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way any >> more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message >> news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... >> > Skybuck: >> > Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? >> > Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "Last> Known >> > Good Configuration? >> > Carlos >> > >> > "Skybuck Flying" wrote: >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback >> >> adapter trick. >> >> >> >> Vista was already "running" so I did this: >> >> >> >> 1. Removed all protocols. >> >> >> >> 2. Removed the network adapter. >> >> >> >> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. >> >> >> >> 4. Rebooted. >> >> >> >> End result: >> >> >> >> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. >> >> >> >> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. >> >> >> >> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. >> >> >> >> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. >> >> >> >> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. >> >> >> >> Lessons learned: >> >> >> >> 1. Don't remove all protocols. >> >> >> >> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? >> >> >> >> 3. Vista is worse than crap. >> >> >> >> Final question: >> >> >> >> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? >> >> >> >> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? >> >> >> >> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is > straight >> >> into turdland >> >> >> >> Bye, >> >> Skybuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > |
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yes, you're right so far as I know, just CCS is recovered. And yes, it will
recover frm a bad driver (as will the choice from F8 which is still there even after LKG is reset, I believe.) -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "John Barnes" <> wrote in message news:%230PgUrL%... > LKG only restores one registry key, not the whole registry, so if the > problem is with any key except HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet you will have > to use system restore. LKG also restores the previous driver situation, > so it is good if a newly installed driver is suspected. System restore has > the advantage of restoring the entire registry and system files in > addition to the driver files. > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message > news:ECB3C2EC-9C31-419D-B87A-... >> He's WAY past Last Known Good. >> Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a >> little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were >> able to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may >> be, it's too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing >> to the horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a >> different kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But >> LKG is of very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad >> that you can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a >> single account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't >> have a password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way >> any more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message >> news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... >>> Skybuck: >>> Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? >>> Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "Last >>> Known >>> Good Configuration? >>> Carlos >>> >>> "Skybuck Flying" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback >>>> adapter trick. >>>> >>>> Vista was already "running" so I did this: >>>> >>>> 1. Removed all protocols. >>>> >>>> 2. Removed the network adapter. >>>> >>>> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. >>>> >>>> 4. Rebooted. >>>> >>>> End result: >>>> >>>> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. >>>> >>>> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. >>>> >>>> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. >>>> >>>> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. >>>> >>>> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. >>>> >>>> Lessons learned: >>>> >>>> 1. Don't remove all protocols. >>>> >>>> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? >>>> >>>> 3. Vista is worse than crap. >>>> >>>> Final question: >>>> >>>> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? >>>> >>>> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? >>>> >>>> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is >>>> straight >>>> into turdland >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> Skybuck. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > |
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See, I was a double major in college - chemistry and english. So every once
in a while I need to work on your vocabulary. <G> -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Carlos" <> wrote in message news:6CD0CABD-A2DB-4247-911C-... > Charlie: > I have just learnt two things from your post: > 1.- The real use of LKG > 2.- The meaning of the expression "horked up". Had to resort to Wikipedia > in > order to understand it > Now, getting back to Skybuck's issue. > He still has the System Restore alternative, right? > Carlos > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > >> He's WAY past Last Known Good. >> >> Just so everyone understands what Last Known Good will do, let's add a >> little clarity here. Last Known Good reverts to the last time you were >> able >> to log in to the machine. Once you log in, however horked up it may be, >> it's >> too late. That last known good is GONE. And LKG is now pointing to the >> horked up login. Now restoring to a known good restore point is a >> different >> kettle of fish, and can sometimes get you out of the hole. But LKG is of >> very limited use - mostly for when you've done something so bad that you >> can't even boot. With XP or Vista on a non-Domain network and a single >> account, the machine will automatically log you in if you don't have a >> password (are there really people trusting enough to run that way any >> more?!?), meaning that you're completely horked if it gets that far. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "Carlos" <> wrote in message >> news:E7F2A20C-8E67-4045-99F9-... >> > Skybuck: >> > Don't you have a restore point prior to your disgrace? >> > Can you access the Vista boot options (pressing F and select "Last >> > Known >> > Good Configuration? >> > Carlos >> > >> > "Skybuck Flying" wrote: >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I was trying to get the network working in virtual pc via the loopback >> >> adapter trick. >> >> >> >> Vista was already "running" so I did this: >> >> >> >> 1. Removed all protocols. >> >> >> >> 2. Removed the network adapter. >> >> >> >> 3. Vista immediately re-installed the network adapter. >> >> >> >> 4. Rebooted. >> >> >> >> End result: >> >> >> >> Dead tcp/ip stack, dead control panel, dead network connections panel. >> >> >> >> 5. Vista complains non genuine vista.. >> >> >> >> 6. Tried the repair options, wasted 15 minutes of time. >> >> >> >> 7. Rebooted one more time, did not help wasted some more time. >> >> >> >> 8. Finally vista says it's going into reduced mode. >> >> >> >> Lessons learned: >> >> >> >> 1. Don't remove all protocols. >> >> >> >> 2. Vista can't repair stack like XP ? >> >> >> >> 3. Vista is worse than crap. >> >> >> >> Final question: >> >> >> >> Will Vista work on a stand alone PC ? >> >> >> >> Or must it be connected to the allmight Big Brother Microsoft ? >> >> >> >> Just out of curiosity since only place Vista is going for me is >> >> straight >> >> into turdland >> >> >> >> Bye, >> >> Skybuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> |
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