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In a moment of weakness, staring at unmanageable numbers of
pictures on my machine, I thought to take a peek on the auto web
photo generator in PS CS. Some of the options generated quite
good enough looking albums - at least off line in most browsers.

One can fiddle about with the template html files provided (there
are just very few (this is prior to any actual generation). These
files contain bits and pieces that the inbuilt generator latches
onto to do its thing. I managed to remove a lot of table based
code as an experiment and this was encouraging. But a lot of the
stuff is based on iframes and much else that it would be nice to
be rid of.

I suspect it is a bit of a lost cause but just wondered if anyone
has done anything interesting to make PS CS generate half decent
accessible web pages to a higher standard?

--
dorayme

dorayme wrote:
> In a moment of weakness, staring at unmanageable numbers of
> pictures on my machine, I thought to take a peek on the auto web
> photo generator in PS CS. Some of the options generated quite
> good enough looking albums - at least off line in most browsers.
>
> One can fiddle about with the template html files provided (there
> are just very few (this is prior to any actual generation). These
> files contain bits and pieces that the inbuilt generator latches
> onto to do its thing. I managed to remove a lot of table based
> code as an experiment and this was encouraging. But a lot of the
> stuff is based on iframes and much else that it would be nice to
> be rid of.
>
> I suspect it is a bit of a lost cause but just wondered if anyone
> has done anything interesting to make PS CS generate half decent
> accessible web pages to a higher standard?
>

Don't know about PS CS but if your dump the preset template in IrfanView
you can make a custom template with HTML strict + CSS (I have for a
CD-ROM project) for a much better price than PS, like $0.00

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

In article <7d464$46e88685$40cba7b5$>,
"Jonathan N. Little" <> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > In a moment of weakness, staring at unmanageable numbers of
> > pictures on my machine, I thought to take a peek on the auto web
> > photo generator in PS CS. Some of the options generated quite
> > good enough looking albums - at least off line in most browsers.
> >
> > One can fiddle about with the template html files provided (there
> > are just very few (this is prior to any actual generation). These
> > files contain bits and pieces that the inbuilt generator latches
> > onto to do its thing. I managed to remove a lot of table based
> > code as an experiment and this was encouraging. But a lot of the
> > stuff is based on iframes and much else that it would be nice to
> > be rid of.
> >
> > I suspect it is a bit of a lost cause but just wondered if anyone
> > has done anything interesting to make PS CS generate half decent
> > accessible web pages to a higher standard?
> >
>
> Don't know about PS CS but if your dump the preset template in IrfanView
> you can make a custom template with HTML strict + CSS (I have for a
> CD-ROM project) for a much better price than PS, like $0.00


If it is Mac compatible I will try it (I faintly recall it *not*
being so ages ago). I suppose I could use my Winbox. Radical
thought!

If anyone has used a Mac compatible generator that is template
customisable (not just with some options but with user being able
to write the html and css without roadblocks), would not mind
hearing about it.

(btw. ... not a better price if you already use PS).

--
dorayme

dorayme wrote:

> If it is Mac compatible I will try it (I faintly recall it *not*
> being so ages ago). I suppose I could use my Winbox. Radical
> thought!
>


Nope!

IrfanView is a very fast, small, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for
non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista.

See a MAC is all about choices...you don't see the scruffy little guy on
tv talking about that. (those damn annoying MAC vs PC commercials
running in the US) It is kind of why my Linux boxes are servers, but I
must say the Ubuntu box I recently put together looks interesting. Got
Wine to do some amazing things but is still is only about 50% complete
and not ready for the average Joe.

> If anyone has used a Mac compatible generator that is template
> customisable (not just with some options but with user being able
> to write the html and css without roadblocks), would not mind
> hearing about it.
>
> (btw. ... not a better price if you already use PS).
>


Of course after you have ponied up the big $$$$ to get it in the first
place!

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

In article <ef92d$46e892a2$40cba7b5$>,
"Jonathan N. Little" <> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
>
> > If it is Mac compatible I will try it (I faintly recall it *not*
> > being so ages ago). I suppose I could use my Winbox. Radical
> > thought!
> >
>
>
> Nope!
>
> IrfanView is a very fast, small, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for
> non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista.
>

OK I better look at it then. I will be in a more comfortable
position to do so in a week's time, this morning I ordered a new
flat panel monitor (that will be a second LCD on the desk for the
Mac) freeing up the 19" CRT for the Winbox (which normally shares
a screen with the Mac via a switch).

> See a MAC is all about choices...you don't see the scruffy little guy on
> tv talking about that. (those damn annoying MAC vs PC commercials
> running in the US)


Talking of ads, MS, Mac, someone on a Mac group posted this
amusing link:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774935

But Jonathan, I am not sure it will be so good on dial up?

--
dorayme

dorayme wrote:

>
> Talking of ads, MS, Mac, someone on a Mac group posted this
> amusing link:
>
> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774935
>
> But Jonathan, I am not sure it will be so good on dial up?
>

Well it is taking a while to load but what a trip! I like the three
babes in the Star Trek uniforms and is that Al Yankovitch! Yep that is
about a geeky as you can get. The one for Windows 1.0 is a good one.

BTW technically the BSOD didn't appear until *after* Windows not before.
DOS 5.0 was a real turkey, 4.2 was better with 3rd party enhancements
than MS boasted in 5.0 like 386MAX or QEMM for memory managers, XTGold
was far superior to DOSSHELL <shudder>, and Stacker over DoubleSpace
(oops that's DOS6.0)

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

In article <d1d19$46e8b070$40cba7b5$>,
"Jonathan N. Little" <> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
>
> >
> > Talking of ads, MS, Mac, someone on a Mac group posted this
> > amusing link:
> >
> > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774935
> >
> > But Jonathan, I am not sure it will be so good on dial up?
> >
>
> Well it is taking a while to load but what a trip! I like the three
> babes in the Star Trek uniforms...

That was the moment to sit up and pay attention.

[OT: The last classroom "musical" scene I can recall in film was
from the American version of Dennis Potter's Pennies from Heaven
with Steve Martin. Wonderful film. There was a differently
wonderful BBC TV series of the same name, with Bob Hoskins. I
don't recall the classroom scene in the TV version.]

--
dorayme

dorayme <> wrote:

>If anyone has used a Mac compatible generator that is template
>customisable (not just with some options but with user being able
>to write the html and css without roadblocks), would not mind
>hearing about it.
The free, cross platform JAlbum <http://jalbum.net/> probably fits. It
requires some CSS and HTML templates that you can write so there is no
problem making a generated album match the look of your site. A
possible roadblock would be that it is an album generator so having,
say, arbitrary variable information on each page would be difficult.

On Sep 12, 6:39 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> I suspect it is a bit of a lost cause but just wondered if anyone
> has done anything interesting to make PS CS generate half decent
> accessible web pages to a higher standard?

You know, I use it [Photoshop Weg Image Gallary] every time we come
back from a trip with the family. I share the URL with family,
friends, and several photo newsgroups so it actually gets quite a bit
of viewing. I have never had a single person tell me it did not look
or work perfectly well. So while it may not create perfect code, the
code it does create works pretty much everywhere.

Oh I am sure someone could take any browser and change the
configuration to make it not look or work right, but someone that does
that runs into a ton of sites where they have to turn something on or
change something to see the site so they are use to doing that.

Could you find a perfect template? Maybe, I am sure you could make
one from scratch if you wanted, but hell, if you have photoshop you
might as well just use it. I just created a 300 image thumb page of
Asheville NC, the process was painless and it works perfectly well for
everyone that looks at it. Why worry about the small things.

I mean, how much effort would I put into something like this? Well
about as much as the keystrokes needed to type the above text.

and that text too...
and those 3 periods...
those 3 too...
yep

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Travis Newbury <> wrote:

> On Sep 12, 6:39 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > I suspect it is a bit of a lost cause but just wondered if anyone
> > has done anything interesting to make PS CS generate half decent
> > accessible web pages to a higher standard?
>
> You know, I use it [Photoshop Weg Image Gallary] every time we come
> back from a trip with the family. I share the URL with family,
> friends, and several photo newsgroups so it actually gets quite a bit
> of viewing. I have never had a single person tell me it did not look
> or work perfectly well. So while it may not create perfect code, the
> code it does create works pretty much everywhere.
>

Sure, it might satisfy many people. But how selfless do you
expect me to be? I am the poor schmuck whose pics they are, who
puts on the show, who is wont to revisit these things and
rearrange them to suit different purposes or tastes. Now and in
the future.

*If* it looked fine enough to me in a range of modern browsers,
that would be half the battle. With PS - I had a long hard look -
it is a bigger uphill battle to thoroughly hand change the
templates to suit one's tastes than I would be wanting (it is not
impossible actually, just a bit counterproductive given one is
going for ease. You can get different skins (basically relying on
others to make different "looks" available) but one is too
dependent on others.

It depends on your interests, I would be loathe to depend on a
mechanic to fix my car or even my computer. Just don't want to be
quite as dependent on PS for something I damn well ought to be
able to code for myself. It is a matter of interest and pride I
guess. It is not just a practical matter with a deadline. I have
my own taste and it is as important where my own pics are
concerned as some other person who makes this or that template.

> Oh I am sure someone could take any browser and change the
> configuration to make it not look or work right, but someone that does
> that runs into a ton of sites where they have to turn something on or
> change something to see the site so they are use to doing that.
>
> Could you find a perfect template? Maybe, I am sure you could make
> one from scratch if you wanted, but hell, if you have photoshop you
> might as well just use it. I just created a 300 image thumb page of
> Asheville NC, the process was painless and it works perfectly well for
> everyone that looks at it. Why worry about the small things.

Am I worrying about the small things? If I don't want frames or
heavy use of tables or many other things, it is not a small thing
for me. It is a big irritation. I give a CD of stuff to a friend
or family member and they are really happy. Great! But I know
that I have given them something with a stinking pile of ****
inside it. Do I want to do this? What if someone were to peep at
the code? The nephew of the cousin of the... who is studying html
and css and knows that Aunty and Uncle Dorayme might know a thing
or two about these things only to find that ... Listen Travis, I
don't even want to be turning in my grave if this happens when I
am gone.

Do not misunderstand me. I am not complaining about PS or any
program. There is always do it all completely on your own, that
is easy but a slog.

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dorayme