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I'm baffled by a problem downloading from Giganews with XP

 
 
me@myhouse.org
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      09-12-2007
Before i write Giganews support, I thought I would try you guys in
here....you've come through for me at least 20 times over the past 5
or 6 years.
Besides, once I explain, you'll see that the problem probably, really
doesn't lie with Giganews, but somewhere on my system...at least I
think.

Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
how Usenet works. And...I would never claim to be an expert on knowing
what (if any) changes I should make to the registry...and don't want
to, if I don't have to.

Here's my situation:

I have 2 PC's on my office desktop.
One is an old Gateway (on it's last days) running Wink2k.

Just bought a new $2800 Dell running XP and it's great. Have had it
for about 2 months now.

I subscribe to two News servers: Giganews and Easynews.
I use Agent for all servers, on both machines. Each copy of Agent is
separate.

Both machines are routed through a Linksys router, so both PC's use
the same broadband connection.

On my new machine running XP...for the last 4 or 5 days, I'm getting
horrendous download speeds from Giganews. Headers seem to come ok, but
the minute I try and download a binary file...it just hangs. (Last
night when before going to bed, I tried to download a 35mb file, and
when I woke up this morning...it had timed out.)

Here's where it gets stupid: If I use my old machine running Win2k,
the downloads are quick as they should be from Giganews 'and'
Easynews. If I use my new machine running XP and try Easynews...my
downloads are quick as well.
However, when I open the Agent copy that points to Giganews using this
same new machine (XP)....it hangs.

As you can see...the problem is not with my Cable connection, because
everything is zippy on my old machine. And, everything is just as
quick on my new machine (XP) using Easynews. But I can't get anwhere
trying to use Giganews. I've done trace routes (unnecessary, if you
think abou it) and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

I'm going to put the old machine out to pasture soon, so I need to
find out where the problem can be. To me, (unless I'm missing
something) it's an 'XP' issue since everything still works as it
should in 2k.

I'll add a PS to all of this: For the first few weeks using this new
machine, I don't believe I had any problems with Giganews. This
problem has cropped up in the last few days.

The only other thing I feel I may need to add....is that about 2 weeks
ago, I upgraded my Comcast broadband account, to get the 'higher
speed' download rate...I now have 8mb when I used to have 6mb.

Does 'anyone' have 'any ideas' as to what my problem could possibly
be? It's really frustrating, and I've run out of options.

Thanks in advance!

-only me-
 
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wisdomkiller & pain
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      09-12-2007
wrote:

> Before i write Giganews support, I thought I would try you guys in
> here....you've come through for me at least 20 times over the past 5
> or 6 years.
> Besides, once I explain, you'll see that the problem probably, really
> doesn't lie with Giganews, but somewhere on my system...at least I
> think.
>
> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
> how Usenet works. And...I would never claim to be an expert on knowing
> what (if any) changes I should make to the registry...and don't want
> to, if I don't have to.
>
> Here's my situation:
>
> I have 2 PC's on my office desktop.
> One is an old Gateway (on it's last days) running Wink2k.
>
> Just bought a new $2800 Dell running XP and it's great. Have had it
> for about 2 months now.
>
> I subscribe to two News servers: Giganews and Easynews.
> I use Agent for all servers, on both machines. Each copy of Agent is
> separate.
>
> Both machines are routed through a Linksys router, so both PC's use
> the same broadband connection.
>
> On my new machine running XP...for the last 4 or 5 days, I'm getting
> horrendous download speeds from Giganews. Headers seem to come ok, but
> the minute I try and download a binary file...it just hangs. (Last
> night when before going to bed, I tried to download a 35mb file, and
> when I woke up this morning...it had timed out.)
>
> Here's where it gets stupid: If I use my old machine running Win2k,
> the downloads are quick as they should be from Giganews 'and'
> Easynews. If I use my new machine running XP and try Easynews...my
> downloads are quick as well.
> However, when I open the Agent copy that points to Giganews using this
> same new machine (XP)....it hangs.
>
> As you can see...the problem is not with my Cable connection, because
> everything is zippy on my old machine. And, everything is just as
> quick on my new machine (XP) using Easynews. But I can't get anwhere
> trying to use Giganews. I've done trace routes (unnecessary, if you
> think abou it) and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
>

Your broadband probably is DSL, and you suffer from the MaxMTU problem.
Read here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03...s_verizon_dsl/
or
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

In your case, a router on the way to giganews obviously doesn't permit
packet fragmentation.
 
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      09-12-2007
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> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
> how Usenet works.


Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
abusing their mailservers?


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Fred
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      09-12-2007
Blinky the Shark wrote:

> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
>> how Usenet works.

>
>Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
>abusing their mailservers?


Neither do I, so whine to my provider.

 
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Blinky the Shark
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      09-12-2007
Fred wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
>>> how Usenet works.

>>
>>Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
>>abusing their mailservers?

>
> Neither do I, so whine to my provider.


Nah. Just trying to get someone to do the right thing. You know, show
a bit of integrity. Look it up.

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me@myhouse.org
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      09-12-2007
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:24:51 +0200, wisdomkiller & pain
<> wrote:

> wrote:
>
>> Before i write Giganews support, I thought I would try you guys in
>> here....you've come through for me at least 20 times over the past 5
>> or 6 years.
>> Besides, once I explain, you'll see that the problem probably, really
>> doesn't lie with Giganews, but somewhere on my system...at least I
>> think.
>>
>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
>> how Usenet works. And...I would never claim to be an expert on knowing
>> what (if any) changes I should make to the registry...and don't want
>> to, if I don't have to.
>>
>> Here's my situation:
>>
>> I have 2 PC's on my office desktop.
>> One is an old Gateway (on it's last days) running Wink2k.
>>
>> Just bought a new $2800 Dell running XP and it's great. Have had it
>> for about 2 months now.
>>
>> I subscribe to two News servers: Giganews and Easynews.
>> I use Agent for all servers, on both machines. Each copy of Agent is
>> separate.
>>
>> Both machines are routed through a Linksys router, so both PC's use
>> the same broadband connection.
>>
>> On my new machine running XP...for the last 4 or 5 days, I'm getting
>> horrendous download speeds from Giganews. Headers seem to come ok, but
>> the minute I try and download a binary file...it just hangs. (Last
>> night when before going to bed, I tried to download a 35mb file, and
>> when I woke up this morning...it had timed out.)
>>
>> Here's where it gets stupid: If I use my old machine running Win2k,
>> the downloads are quick as they should be from Giganews 'and'
>> Easynews. If I use my new machine running XP and try Easynews...my
>> downloads are quick as well.
>> However, when I open the Agent copy that points to Giganews using this
>> same new machine (XP)....it hangs.
>>
>> As you can see...the problem is not with my Cable connection, because
>> everything is zippy on my old machine. And, everything is just as
>> quick on my new machine (XP) using Easynews. But I can't get anwhere
>> trying to use Giganews. I've done trace routes (unnecessary, if you
>> think abou it) and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
>>

>Your broadband probably is DSL, and you suffer from the MaxMTU problem.
>Read here:
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03...s_verizon_dsl/
>or
>http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
>
>In your case, a router on the way to giganews obviously doesn't permit
>packet fragmentation.


I eventually discovered that it was my AV that for some reason, didn't
care for my Agent running Giganews. However for another odd reason, it
didn't affect my Agent running Easynews. Strange.
Told my AV to 'trust' my Agent for Giganews, and it looks like that
did the trick. we'll see.

And thanks for the link to the TCP Optimizer...I actually tried that a
couple days ago, and it had no affect whatsoever. I meant to include
that piece of info in my original post, but forgot.

again, thanks.
 
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      09-12-2007
Blinky the Shark wrote:

>Fred wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge on
>>>> how Usenet works.
>>>
>>>Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
>>>abusing their mailservers?

>>
>> Neither do I, so whine to my provider.

>
>Nah. Just trying to get someone to do the right thing. You know, show
>a bit of integrity. Look it up.


Right after you abstain from making empty threats based on false
accusations. Grow up, little child.

 
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      09-12-2007
Fred wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>>Fred wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge
>>>>> on how Usenet works.
>>>>
>>>>Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
>>>>abusing their mailservers?
>>>
>>> Neither do I, so whine to my provider.

>>
>>Nah. Just trying to get someone to do the right thing. You know,
>>show a bit of integrity. Look it up.

>
> Right after you abstain from making empty threats based on false
> accusations. Grow up, little child.


Threats? I made no threats. What a moron. Show me a threat up there,
numbnuts.


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      09-12-2007
It was on, or about, Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:37:22 +0000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Fred wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>>>Fred wrote:
>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge
>>>>>> on how Usenet works.
>>>>>
>>>>>Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
>>>>>abusing their mailservers?
>>>>
>>>> Neither do I, so whine to my provider.
>>>
>>>Nah. Just trying to get someone to do the right thing. You know, show
>>>a bit of integrity. Look it up.

>>
>> Right after you abstain from making empty threats based on false
>> accusations. Grow up, little child.

>
> Threats? I made no threats. What a moron. Show me a threat up there,
> numbnuts.


Don't tell me, he's either a goggler (ggoglegrouper) or an Outhouse
Excess user. I wonder how he'd like someone else using his domain or
email address.


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      09-12-2007
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:42:58 +0100, William Poaster
<> wrote:

>It was on, or about, Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:37:22 +0000, that as I was
>halfway through a large jam doughnut, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> Fred wrote:
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>
>>>>Fred wrote:
>>>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, for starters, I'm not a newbie...but have a limited knowledge
>>>>>>> on how Usenet works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Right. Do you have that email address at myhouse.org, or are you
>>>>>>abusing their mailservers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither do I, so whine to my provider.
>>>>
>>>>Nah. Just trying to get someone to do the right thing. You know, show
>>>>a bit of integrity. Look it up.
>>>
>>> Right after you abstain from making empty threats based on false
>>> accusations. Grow up, little child.

>>
>> Threats? I made no threats. What a moron. Show me a threat up there,
>> numbnuts.

>
>Don't tell me, he's either a goggler (ggoglegrouper) or an Outhouse
>Excess user. I wonder how he'd like someone else using his domain or
>email address.


If you can't tell if he's a 'googler' or an OE user you should learn
how to tell the difference before you leave the kiddie pool next time.
 
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