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Sinna
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      09-05-2007
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Hi all,

Is there a way I can configure the Linksys SPA-3102 so when somebody
tries to contact me while I'm having a conversation over VoIP, (s)he
gets a busy tone? Now it just looks like I'm able to pick up the phone.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Sinna

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Hallo iedereen,

Is er een manier waarop ik de Linksys SPA-3102 kan configureren zodat er
een bezettoon klinkt wanneer iemand mij probeert te bereiken terwijl ik
zelf een gesprek over VoIP aan het voeren ben? Nu gaat de telefoon
gewoon over terwijl ik ze niet kan opnemen.

Suggesties?

Alvast bedankt,
Sinna
 
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Andrew Gabriel
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      09-05-2007
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Sinna <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way I can configure the Linksys SPA-3102 so when somebody
> tries to contact me while I'm having a conversation over VoIP, (s)he
> gets a busy tone? Now it just looks like I'm able to pick up the phone.
>
> Any suggestions?


I don't believe this is possible on the SPA-3000.
It would require that the VoIP in the FXS port could signal the FXO
port to busy-out (go off-hook without dialling). There is no SIP
message to request a busy-out (although with both VoIP adaptors being
in the same unit, it could use a non-SIP way of signalling this inside
the SPA-3000/3102).

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Christian
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      09-06-2007
Sinna,

You're not the first one bumping into this Just check out Google.
Technically the only way a SPA-3102 can make your analogue line (POTS)
"busy" when busy at the VOIP-side is "picking up the receiver" on the
analogue line. There is probably no telco that sees this as a legitimate
action, so no hardware manufacturer will implement a "trick" like this. So
the SPA-3102/3000 has no setting to keep the analogue line "busy" during a
VOIP-call.

Maybe an idea to briefly changebetween VOIP and POTS with the flash-key of
your phone to tell the caller "that you're busy on the other line" and call
him back later? I never used it, but I think the SPA's support this.

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Je bent niet de eerste die hier tegenaan loopt Zoek maar eens op
google. Technisch de enige manier waarop een SPA-3102 jouw analoge lijn
(POTS) op "busy" kan zetten als je in gesprek bent aan de VOIP-kant, zou
zijn door "kunstmatig de hoorn van de haak te nemen" op de analoge lijn. Er
is denk ik geen enkele telefoonmaatschappij/regelaar die zoiets als een
legitieme aktie ziet, dus hardwarefabrikanten zullen zo'n "truc" niet
inbouwen. De SPA-3102/3000 heeft dus geen voorziening/instelling om de
analoge lijn "busy" te houden tijdens een VOIP gesprek.

Wellicht werkt even wisselen tussen VOIP en POTS met de flash-toets, om te
vertellen dat je "op de andere lijn in gesprek bent" en later terugbelt? Nog
nooit gebruikt, maar volgens mij ondersteunen kunnen die SPA's dat wel.

Christian

P.S. Misschien was het handiger als je in deze 2 nieuwsgroepen onafhankelijk
van elkaar gepost had. Scheelt mij een hoop tikwerk


 
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Andrew Gabriel
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      09-07-2007
In article <46e03184$0$226$(E-Mail Removed)4all.nl>,
"Christian" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> Sinna,
>
> You're not the first one bumping into this Just check out Google.
> Technically the only way a SPA-3102 can make your analogue line (POTS)
> "busy" when busy at the VOIP-side is "picking up the receiver" on the
> analogue line. There is probably no telco that sees this as a legitimate
> action,


This is called busying out the line, and is a standard feature
on all telco POTS telephony systems.

> so no hardware manufacturer will implement a "trick" like this. So


There is no SIP message to busy out a line, so it's not something
a VoIP unit can support using SIP protocol alone.

> the SPA-3102/3000 has no setting to keep the analogue line "busy" during a
> VOIP-call.


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Herman
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      09-07-2007
"Andrew Gabriel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <46e03184$0$226$(E-Mail Removed)4all.nl>,
> "Christian" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>> Sinna,
>>
>> You're not the first one bumping into this Just check out Google.
>> Technically the only way a SPA-3102 can make your analogue line (POTS)
>> "busy" when busy at the VOIP-side is "picking up the receiver" on the
>> analogue line. There is probably no telco that sees this as a legitimate
>> action,

>
> This is called busying out the line, and is a standard feature
> on all telco POTS telephony systems.
>
>> so no hardware manufacturer will implement a "trick" like this. So

>
> There is no SIP message to busy out a line, so it's not something
> a VoIP unit can support using SIP protocol alone.
>
>> the SPA-3102/3000 has no setting to keep the analogue line "busy" during
>> a
>> VOIP-call.

>
> --
> Andrew Gabriel
> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]


So how come my Fritzbox can do this? It rejects calls on busy, which then
relies on how the SIP provider handles this. This could be a busy tone or
it could be divert to voicemail. It can also be an NU tone (e.g. Sipgate)!

I seem to remember there is a "Busy here" message through SIP?


 
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Christian
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      09-07-2007
> So how come my Fritzbox can do this? It rejects calls on busy, which then
> relies on how the SIP provider handles this. This could be a busy tone or
> it could be divert to voicemail. It can also be an NU tone (e.g.

Sipgate)!
>
> I seem to remember there is a "Busy here" message through SIP?


I think there is some confusion here: the original poster wanted to "busy
out" (to use Andrew's term) the POTS line, not the SIP-line.

Christian


 
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Herman
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      09-11-2007

"Christian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> So how come my Fritzbox can do this? It rejects calls on busy, which
>> then
>> relies on how the SIP provider handles this. This could be a busy tone
>> or
>> it could be divert to voicemail. It can also be an NU tone (e.g.

> Sipgate)!
>>
>> I seem to remember there is a "Busy here" message through SIP?

>
> I think there is some confusion here: the original poster wanted to "busy
> out" (to use Andrew's term) the POTS line, not the SIP-line.
>
> Christian


Ah yes, I now see the implied meaning in the OP's original message. If this
is the case then forget what I said...


 
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