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How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
posted it can remove it.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:36:28 -0500, eoiajvoeijn <>
wrote:

>How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
>newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
>posted it can remove it.

If by "newsgroups" you mean Usenet then you can't remove posts from
all the hundreds of servers over the world. Cancels and rescinds are
ignored by most servers these days. Google may remove their copy.

Steve

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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:36:28 -0500, eoiajvoeijn wrote:

>How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the

The problem is did you post it via Google or another way?

>newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
>posted it can remove it.

Besides Google help and contacting them, if you posted using Google,
well join the many poster that do the same thing, along with CVs,
addresses details and even time / day they won't be at home

You haven't (if posted via Google) seen previous posts in 24HSHD
1 such thread is

How do I delete my own old posts from Google Groups?
Mike Easter Mi...@ster.invalid 24hoursupport helpdesk Pistachio wrote:
Subject:
How do I delete my own old posts from Google Groups? ... you use the
tool at
http://groups.google.com/groups/msgs_remove Enter the email address
originally
used to post the messages: ... using that tool for each address which
has one or ...
Feb 1 by Mike Easter - 13 messages - 8 authors


That only removes it from the Google archive, leaving it sitting on
1000's of news servers all over the world.

Me

eoiajvoeijn wrote:
X-No-Archive: yes

> How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
> newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
> posted it can remove it.

You can't.

It is my understanding that you are saying that there is a message which
you did not post which message was posted via a googlegrouper into a
usenet newsgroup and which subsequently was propagated to the world's
newsservers and newsreaders.

You are further saying that the messagebody someone else posted is
'outing' some features of your meatspace identity, namely your street
address, city, postal zipcode, and country and perhaps more, such as
your name.

You are further saying that you have contacted google to try to get them
to 'remove' such a message that you didn't post, and they have informed
you of their policies, which are reasonable.

Google spells out pretty clearly which posts they will remove from their
archives, as you must be aware since you choose to be an XNA poster.

Alternatively, if you are saying that _you_ posted the message in
question yourself, then you would have to have some method of proving to
google that you posted it.

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Mike Easter

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:05:07 GMT, why?
<fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:

>
>On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:36:28 -0500, eoiajvoeijn wrote:
>
>>How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
>
>The problem is did you post it via Google or another way?
>
>>newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
>>posted it can remove it.
>
>Besides Google help and contacting them, if you posted using Google,
>well join the many poster that do the same thing, along with CVs,
>addresses details and even time / day they won't be at home
>
>You haven't (if posted via Google) seen previous posts in 24HSHD
>1 such thread is
>
> How do I delete my own old posts from Google Groups?
>Mike Easter Mi...@ster.invalid 24hoursupport helpdesk Pistachio wrote:
>Subject:
>How do I delete my own old posts from Google Groups? ... you use the
>tool at
>http://groups.google.com/groups/msgs_remove Enter the email address
>originally
>used to post the messages: ... using that tool for each address which
>has one or ...
>Feb 1 by Mike Easter - 13 messages - 8 authors
>
>
>That only removes it from the Google archive, leaving it sitting on
>1000's of news servers all over the world.
>
>Me

True but less than 1% even know about the newsgroups while everyone
can access google and see the information.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 07:08:18 -0700, "Mike Easter" <>
wrote:

>eoiajvoeijn wrote:
>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>> How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
>> newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
>> posted it can remove it.
>
>You can't.
>
>It is my understanding that you are saying that there is a message which
>you did not post which message was posted via a googlegrouper into a
>usenet newsgroup and which subsequently was propagated to the world's
>newsservers and newsreaders.
>
>You are further saying that the messagebody someone else posted is
>'outing' some features of your meatspace identity, namely your street
>address, city, postal zipcode, and country and perhaps more, such as
>your name.
>
>You are further saying that you have contacted google to try to get them
>to 'remove' such a message that you didn't post, and they have informed
>you of their policies, which are reasonable.
>
>Google spells out pretty clearly which posts they will remove from their
>archives, as you must be aware since you choose to be an XNA poster.
>
>Alternatively, if you are saying that _you_ posted the message in
>question yourself, then you would have to have some method of proving to
>google that you posted it.


It doesn't matter whether I was an XNA poster as I didn't post the
information.
Do you have any other ideas now that I've explained that I didn't post
in on google groups?

Thanks

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:48:19 -0500, eoiajvoeijn <>
wrote:

>True but less than 1% even know about the newsgroups while everyone
>can access google and see the information.

Where do you get 1% from? How about 50% don't want to use Google.
Anyone on usenet with decent client application will find Google
groups clumsy.

X-No-Archive: Yes

On 2007-08-26, eoiajvoeijn <> wrote:
> How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
> newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
> posted it can remove it.

Only the one who posted it can remove it using Google's automatic tools.

Google could remove it even if the original poster doesn't want them to
if Google can be convinced that your privacy or safety is more important
to Google than the 'free speeach' of whoever posted your particulars. I
don't know if anyone has ever won that argument with Google. Try asking
whoever it was who posted it, and if they refuse then take it up with
Google, and good luck to you. It might help if your lawyers were to have
more money than Google's lawyers.

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eoiajvoeijn wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 07:08:18 -0700, "Mike Easter" <>
> wrote:
>
>> eoiajvoeijn wrote:
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>>
>>> How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
>>> newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
>>> posted it can remove it.
>> You can't.
>>
>> It is my understanding that you are saying that there is a message which
>> you did not post which message was posted via a googlegrouper into a
>> usenet newsgroup and which subsequently was propagated to the world's
>> newsservers and newsreaders.
>>
>> You are further saying that the messagebody someone else posted is
>> 'outing' some features of your meatspace identity, namely your street
>> address, city, postal zipcode, and country and perhaps more, such as
>> your name.
>>
>> You are further saying that you have contacted google to try to get them
>> to 'remove' such a message that you didn't post, and they have informed
>> you of their policies, which are reasonable.
>>
>> Google spells out pretty clearly which posts they will remove from their
>> archives, as you must be aware since you choose to be an XNA poster.
>>
>> Alternatively, if you are saying that _you_ posted the message in
>> question yourself, then you would have to have some method of proving to
>> google that you posted it.
>
>
> It doesn't matter whether I was an XNA poster as I didn't post the
> information.
> Do you have any other ideas now that I've explained that I didn't post
> in on google groups?

You can't remove other people's posts. If someone else posted your
personal information, then YOU were remiss is letting them have it to
post. Personally, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I've seen quite
a few people who post their personal info all the time, including to
this group, and they never seem to have problems. If you are in another
situation, you may want to consider moving.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:36:28 -0500, eoiajvoeijn <>
wrote:

>How do I get a post removed from google groups that was posted in the
>newsgroups that contains my home address? They say on the one who
>posted it can remove it.
In theory it's easy to cancel a post, even those which ain't yours.
(by forgery) Whether news servers (and Google groups) will honor the
cancel is another thing.
Many news servers no longer do anything with control: cancel posts
because they've been abused so much.