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Leythos wrote:
> In article <>,
> says...
>> WhzzKdd wrote:
>>
>>> The consultants we are probably going to use to set up the SQL server are
>>> pushing the Sonicwall - probably because they are familiar with it already.
>>> Their company also provides spam filtering and they want to sell us that
>>> service as a monthly subscription. I hate monthly fees <g>
>> If you don't like fees, go with the Zywall. No fees for updates or
>> licences for users. Use a seperate box for spam filtering.
>
> Zywall support sucks, more than any other vendor I've worked with.
>
Here in the UK, support is excellent both from the distributors and
Zyxel themselves.

In article <Z6GdnYntxr->,
says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <>,
> > says...
> >> WhzzKdd wrote:
> >>
> >>> The consultants we are probably going to use to set up the SQL server are
> >>> pushing the Sonicwall - probably because they are familiar with it already.
> >>> Their company also provides spam filtering and they want to sell us that
> >>> service as a monthly subscription. I hate monthly fees <g>
> >> If you don't like fees, go with the Zywall. No fees for updates or
> >> licences for users. Use a seperate box for spam filtering.
> >
> > Zywall support sucks, more than any other vendor I've worked with.
> >
> Here in the UK, support is excellent both from the distributors and
> Zyxel themselves.

Last year I called with pre-sales technical questions and they spent 7
days trying to get an answer and then they were unsure. I've got reports
that match my current view of them from several friends that no longer
use their devices.

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create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a look
at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive.../t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.

"Leythos" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> In article <Z6GdnYntxr->,
> says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>> > In article <>,
>> > says...
>> >> WhzzKdd wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The consultants we are probably going to use to set up the SQL server
>> >>> are
>> >>> pushing the Sonicwall - probably because they are familiar with it
>> >>> already.
>> >>> Their company also provides spam filtering and they want to sell us
>> >>> that
>> >>> service as a monthly subscription. I hate monthly fees <g>
>> >> If you don't like fees, go with the Zywall. No fees for updates or
>> >> licences for users. Use a seperate box for spam filtering.
>> >
>> > Zywall support sucks, more than any other vendor I've worked with.
>> >
>> Here in the UK, support is excellent both from the distributors and
>> Zyxel themselves.
>
> Last year I called with pre-sales technical questions and they spent 7
> days trying to get an answer and then they were unsure. I've got reports
> that match my current view of them from several friends that no longer
> use their devices.
>

Also very good to know - thanks!

Leythos wrote:

> Most Firewall appliances come with spam filtering services, but I've
> only found two that I actually like - for hands off, completely, I like
> the barracuda spam firewall, for one that allows the admin and users to
> train it without little effort, for great control of attachments and
> malware and reporting, I like GFI Mail Security and GFI Mail Essentials.


The Cuda needs to be set for "no bounce" on NDRs. Google on
barracuda+backscatter

One spam run with your email address forged as "From" or "Return path"
will get you 500+ backscatter bounces off Barracudas. Call it a DDoS or
a mailbombing, effect is the same.

In article <>,
says...
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > Most Firewall appliances come with spam filtering services, but I've
> > only found two that I actually like - for hands off, completely, I like
> > the barracuda spam firewall, for one that allows the admin and users to
> > train it without little effort, for great control of attachments and
> > malware and reporting, I like GFI Mail Security and GFI Mail Essentials.
>
>
> The Cuda needs to be set for "no bounce" on NDRs. Google on
> barracuda+backscatter
>
> One spam run with your email address forged as "From" or "Return path"
> will get you 500+ backscatter bounces off Barracudas. Call it a DDoS or
> a mailbombing, effect is the same.

I never send NDR or other reject messages. It's been a bad idea since
spam started.

--
Leythos - (remove 999 to email me)

Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like PCBUTTS1.COM that
create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a look
at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive.../t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.