New Certification Structure?

So, I acheived the first of my MCP's a few months ago, 70-294...

I'm now hearing that the structure of certification is changing and that
some exams require upgrade exams etc...

So, my quetion is two fold, is my exam now outdated and obsolete now and
what is my path to gaining the next level of certification, still called
MCSE/A I beleive?

Thanks,
Chris

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Chris <> said something like

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\176071.htm (10/28/2005
> 11:15:51 AM) # So, I acheived the first of my MCP's a few months ago,
> 70-294...
>
> I'm now hearing that the structure of certification is changing and
> that some exams require upgrade exams etc...
>
> So, my quetion is two fold, is my exam now outdated and obsolete now
> and what is my path to gaining the next level of certification, still
> called MCSE/A I beleive?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/

kpg

Ahh, got this http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/

Perhpas I should be stood up against a wall and shot! But, still not totally
understnading whether I am now obsolete or whether I can just continue to
work on my previous plan of MCSA/E...

The Microsoft website seems to have plenty of links but very little concrete
information to follow...

=?Utf-8?B?Q2hyaXM=?=

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Q2hyaXM=?= spewed across
the ether:

> Ahh, got this http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/
>
> Perhpas I should be stood up against a wall and shot! But, still not
> totally understnading whether I am now obsolete or whether I can just
> continue to work on my previous plan of MCSA/E...
>
> The Microsoft website seems to have plenty of links but very little
> concrete information to follow...
>

I think the confusion is actually intentional. MS will continue to churn
out MCPs as long as people are willing to take the exams. Why not, it's a
money farm. Recognizing, however, that the practice has resulted in
MCSE/A certifying nothing but an ability to take tests, they are now
embarking on a 'real' set of certs that require actual experience in the
field using the software to attain.

So, to answer your question, no, you are not obsolete. MS is just finally
kind of acknowledging, if not actually admitting, what others have known
for some time.

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

JaR

Chris <> said something like

> # Name resolution details: file://c:\temp\176076.htm (10/28/2005
> 12:45:27 PM) # Ahh, got this
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/newgen/
>
> Perhpas I should be stood up against a wall and shot! But, still not
> totally understnading whether I am now obsolete or whether I can just
> continue to work on my previous plan of MCSA/E...
>
> The Microsoft website seems to have plenty of links but very little
> concrete information to follow...


Yes. But if you read between the lines, and based on historical
knowledge of how MS handles this, your old certs as still valid,
they are just old certs. As long as they offer them they are
still good to be had, they just will become old one day.

Like all things.

So you just need to decide which ones you want.

kpg

kpg

thanks for everyones comments.

does anyone know where i can find a list of the mandatory and also electives
that i need to do to get my mcse/a?

thanks,
chris

=?Utf-8?B?Q2hyaXM=?=

"Chris" <> wrote in message
news:4F18B0D7-F99E-43FA-941D-...
> thanks for everyones comments.
>
> does anyone know where i can find a list of the mandatory and also
> electives
> that i need to do to get my mcse/a?
>
> thanks,
> chris

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/

LRM

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, =?Utf-8?B?Q2hyaXM=?= spewed across
the ether:

> does anyone know where i can find a list of the mandatory and also
> electives that i need to do to get my mcse/a?

*bites tongue*

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com

JaR

Thankyou

"LRM" wrote:

>
> "Chris" <> wrote in message
> news:4F18B0D7-F99E-43FA-941D-...
> > thanks for everyones comments.
> >
> > does anyone know where i can find a list of the mandatory and also
> > electives
> > that i need to do to get my mcse/a?
> >
> > thanks,
> > chris
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/
>
>
>

=?Utf-8?B?Q2hyaXM=?=

> does anyone know where i can find a list of the mandatory and also
> electives that i need to do to get my mcse/a?


You're making me look bad...

kpg