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hi,
more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
(vibrant technologies) or kontera.
how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?
does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about such
technology?
any hints appreciated...

thanks

lester

lester psigal wrote:
> hi,
> more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
> frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without
> browser frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent
> popup windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
> sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
> (vibrant technologies) or kontera.
> how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?
> does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about
> such technology?
> any hints appreciated...
>
> thanks
>
> lester

that's ad popups and new entries into text adverts.
nothing to do with 2.0
2.0 is really more about styling and efficient content delivery.

"lester psigal" <> wrote in message
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> hi,
> more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
> frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
> frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
> windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
> sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
> (vibrant technologies) or kontera.
> how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?
> does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about such
> technology?
> any hints appreciated...

What?

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lester psigal wrote:
> hi,
> more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
> frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
> frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
> windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
> sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
> (vibrant technologies) or kontera.
> how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?
> does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about such
> technology?
> any hints appreciated...
>
> thanks
>
> lester
>
>
hi,
thanks to all for answering my question, especially to michael fesser
and ben c, if i get you right, those 'popping up', 'frameless' windows
are not really window objects of their own in the sense of javascript,
they are more a kind of 'dynamic css' (that's what i've assumed) and are
triggered via javascript and dom in the already loaded window object and
just 'mimicking' the behaviour of a real popup window.
the reason i've asked was that i did not find a coding example or even
mentioning of the technology in my web programming literature and when
looking to the source code of e.g. ask.com it wasn't obvious to me how
it exactly works.

lester

lester psigal wrote:
> hi,
> more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
> frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
> frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
> windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
> sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
> (vibrant technologies) or kontera.
> how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?
> does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about such
> technology?
> any hints appreciated...
>

pop-ups are so 90s. just forget about them (together with the frames you
mentioned). Sorry, but I didn't understand the rest of your question.
Web2.0 has nothing to do with what you described. Web2.0 is mainly a
buzzword and usually refers to user-content-generated sites and all the
involved collateral damage (mash-ups, x-site-content generation)

bernhard


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>more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
>frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
>frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
>windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
>sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
>(vibrant technologies) or kontera.
>how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?

It's often just a 'div' with a semi-transparent background (PNG for
example), absolutely positioned with CSS on top of everything else.

>does it belong to web 2.0

"Web 2.0" is just a marketing gag, nothing special, nothing new.

Micha

On 2007-08-03, lester psigal <> wrote:
> hi,
> more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
> frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
> frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
> windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
> sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
> (vibrant technologies) or kontera.
> how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?

They are probably not actual windows in the way that a traditional popup
is, but absolutely-positioned divs with opacity set on them that are
toggled from visibility: hidden to visibility: visible by JS/DOM. Their
contents can be updated dynamically just like any other part of the
document from JS using the DOM.

You can style them how you like, including not giving them borders.

> does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about such
> technology?

Web 2.0 is just a buzzword but yes this kind of thing is associated with
it. If you want to try out things like this, read about the DOM and
JavaScript. If you want the page to be able to refresh parts of its
contents with data from the server without reloading completely, use the
XMLHttpRequest object.

Whether the result counts as Web 2.0 is done on a scoring system where
you get points for using XMLHttpRequest, having a blog, excessive use of
lowercase, opacity effects, cool limegreen colour scheme, dashed
borders, etc.

While the city slept, Ben C () feverishly typed...
[...]

> Whether the result counts as Web 2.0 is done on a scoring system where
> you get points for using XMLHttpRequest, having a blog, excessive use
> of lowercase, opacity effects, cool limegreen colour scheme, dashed
> borders, etc.

LOL! Probably one of the finest explanations of "Web 2.0" I've ever read

Might I also suggest "having a name that makes little sense" (eg, "flickr",
"bebo" etc)

Cheers,
Nige

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Ben C wrote:

> Whether the result counts as Web 2.0 is done on a scoring system where
> you get points for using XMLHttpRequest, having a blog, excessive use of
> lowercase, opacity effects, cool limegreen colour scheme, dashed
> borders, etc.

http://validator.buzzword.org.uk

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On 2007-08-03, lester psigal <> wrote:
> lester psigal wrote:
>> hi,
>> more and more web sites are coming up with new features like those
>> frameless ( with frameless i mean those windows totally without browser
>> frame, not those generated by javascript/css ), transparent popup
>> windows with (dynamic) web content, e.g. ask.com.
>> sometimes they are generated by (top-text) services like intellitext
>> (vibrant technologies) or kontera.
>> how do those popups technology work (code-technically)?
>> does it belong to web 2.0 and where can i find www resources about such
>> technology?
>> any hints appreciated...
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> lester
>>
>>
> hi,
> thanks to all for answering my question, especially to michael fesser
> and ben c, if i get you right, those 'popping up', 'frameless' windows
> are not really window objects of their own in the sense of javascript,
> they are more a kind of 'dynamic css' (that's what i've assumed) and are
> triggered via javascript and dom in the already loaded window object and
> just 'mimicking' the behaviour of a real popup window.

Yes I think that's how they're done.

> the reason i've asked was that i did not find a coding example or even
> mentioning of the technology in my web programming literature and when
> looking to the source code of e.g. ask.com it wasn't obvious to me how
> it exactly works.

I tried an example, you can look at the source, it should be quite
simple. Don't know if it works in IE but Firefox should be OK.

http://www.tidraso.co.uk/misc/popup.html