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All,

I am thinking about doing the MCSE exams and the route I am going to take is
to buy some books and start from there. I was thinking about the MCSE
Windows 2003 Core requirements ISBN 0735619530 as a good starting point but I
notice that three out of the four books within the set are not availible for
sale seperatly any more. Does any one know why this is? Are Microsoft about
to publish revised versions?

The reason for asking is I do not wish to go out and spend £100 on the books
to find out that they are not worth it.

Does anyone have any views on these books or are there better ones out there
for the MCSE Cert?

Thanks in advance.

ADAdmin wrote:
> Does anyone have any views on these books or are there better ones out there
> for the MCSE Cert?

How much of your experience is in NT, 2000 or 2003? If you say a good
bit, I would get the skills being measured for the exam I was going to
take, buy the 2003 Resource Kit and Transenders or Self-Test exams.
Take one of the tests, see where your weaknesses were and let that be
the start of where to study.

The only thing I really like about the MS Press books are the labs and
exercises, I find that they collect dust after I finish with the exams;
where as I have referred many times to the Res Kit.

Just my 2 cents

Congrats on your goal to get an MCSE. The cert itself doesn't give you any
skill, but it certainly will look very nice on a resume coupled with that 11
years of IT experience you've got.

The Transcender practice exams have gotten me thru 11 tests so far. Not
only do they get you prepared for the tricky questions of the exam, but they
do an excellent job of explaining the answers and referencing books if you
want to dig into an answer further.

I personally don't like book study for the exams because there's far too
much filler info that I have to skim thru. I just want the details, the
rules, the methods, etc...

"ADAdmin" wrote:

> All,
>
> I am thinking about doing the MCSE exams and the route I am going to take is
> to buy some books and start from there. I was thinking about the MCSE
> Windows 2003 Core requirements ISBN 0735619530 as a good starting point but I
> notice that three out of the four books within the set are not availible for
> sale seperatly any more. Does any one know why this is? Are Microsoft about
> to publish revised versions?
>
> The reason for asking is I do not wish to go out and spend £100 on the books
> to find out that they are not worth it.
>
> Does anyone have any views on these books or are there better ones out there
> for the MCSE Cert?
>
> Thanks in advance.

did you hear =?Utf-8?B?SmFsZXhhbmRlcjAx?=
<> say in
news58F7F7E-B2B1-4D0B-806A-:

> they
> do an excellent job of explaining the answers and referencing books if
> you want to dig into an answer further.
>

I like them for just this reason. And they are not dumps. Stay away from
dumps. TestKing is a dump, Transcenders are a test prep.

(baiting chalk for yet another round of arguing <g>)

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- A good hot dog feeds the hand that bites it.

did you hear =?Utf-8?B?SmFsZXhhbmRlcjAx?= <Jalexander01
@discussions.microsoft.com> say in news58F7F7E-B2B1-4D0B-806A-
:

> I personally don't like book study for the exams because there's far
too
> much filler info that I have to skim thru. I just want the details,
the
> rules, the methods, etc...

I will disagree here. Cram the brain with books, CD info, Videos,
websites, TechNet, MSDN, KB articles, books online, every thing. The best
will be actually using the product and trying things out. Create a
network (consider using Virtual Machines - either VPC or VMWare) and
build and break till you really understand it.

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- If at first you don't succeed, change the rules.

>Transcenders are a test prep.
>
>(baiting chalk for yet another round of arguing <g>)

that's right Neil they're test preps. As the format of the real exams
bare's no resemblance to the real world, why should these types of
'test preps' be any different

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

>Cram the brain with books, CD info, Videos,
>websites, TechNet, MSDN, KB articles, books online, every thing. The best
>will be actually using the product and trying things out. Create a
>network (consider using Virtual Machines - either VPC or VMWare) and
>build and break till you really understand it.

absolutely.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Kline Sphere spewed across the ether:

> As the format of the real exams
> bare's no resemblance to the real world,

They do so! Ben said so.

And it's "bears"

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com/spelling/politzei

>The Transcender practice exams have gotten me thru 11 tests so far. Not
>only do they get you prepared for the tricky questions of the exam,

lol!

> but they
>do an excellent job of explaining the answers and referencing books if you
>want to dig into an answer further.

wow, they point you to the msdn/exam coarse notes.

This would be fine I've they never gave you the answer's, thus
requiring people to actual go off and so the research. As it is,
people simply 'memorize the answers' to questions which the taker
hopes will be similar (or the same) as those in the real exam. This
hardly proves an understanding of the subject matter.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

>The only thing I really like about the MS Press books are the labs and
>exercises, I find that they collect dust after I finish with the exams;

Ebay is your friend

>where as I have referred many times to the Res Kit.

Yup.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3