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Old 08-22-2005, 08:14 AM   #1
Default OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...


It's been indicated that Ben Smith has to spend an excess amount of time
cleaning up messages in this group.

As one of the principal offenders, I've come up with a potential solution...
a web based chat room.

I like to communicate with the members of this group, keeps my existance
from slipping too far into oblivion, so I'm donating the use of an
application I'm working on called PMS - Personal Messaging Server.

Previously I'd written this application on MS Internet Information Server,
and had nearly completed all of the work, when an abhorrent new 'security
warning' was released which made key features of the application unusable,
or at least annoying enough to irritate me.

As such, in protest, I've been porting the application over to work on PHP
servers.

What this means is, the application, while stable, is in a very primitive
state. I can offer up the server and the bandwidth and the software, all I
ask is for feedback on what sort of features you'd like to see in an
improved version.

For a peek at what the IIS version looks like, and what I expect to add to
later versions of the PHP application, see
http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/pms-iis.gif . That one works over XMLHTTP
and supports animated characters.

The reason why the IIS version isn't online already is because I've written
it as a server component, and no ISP I've found will register these without
a boatload of money, something I currently could use for other more pressing
matters.

Anyway, all of that said, you can experience the lame, work in progress,
designed for Lynx text only browsers version that I got together for the
current need at http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/ . And I really do recommend
picking up a copy of Lynx to use it, it's much better than using it through
a typical web browser. I realise this version sucks, I'll be working
throughout the week to improve it. If you do use it, you'll be contributing
to two good causes. One being reducing the traffic in this area, the other
being helping me to track down bugs in my application.


Ben, hope this helps.

Microcephalic S. Bob
http://www.roblindman.com/





/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:55 AM   #2
Bob Christian
 
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Default Re: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
Leave it to a guy named "Bob" trying to put Ben out of work...

"/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@> wrote in
message news:...
> It's been indicated that Ben Smith has to spend an excess amount of time
> cleaning up messages in this group.
>
> As one of the principal offenders, I've come up with a potential
> solution... a web based chat room.
>
> I like to communicate with the members of this group, keeps my existance
> from slipping too far into oblivion, so I'm donating the use of an
> application I'm working on called PMS - Personal Messaging Server.
>
> Previously I'd written this application on MS Internet Information Server,
> and had nearly completed all of the work, when an abhorrent new 'security
> warning' was released which made key features of the application unusable,
> or at least annoying enough to irritate me.
>
> As such, in protest, I've been porting the application over to work on PHP
> servers.
>
> What this means is, the application, while stable, is in a very primitive
> state. I can offer up the server and the bandwidth and the software, all I
> ask is for feedback on what sort of features you'd like to see in an
> improved version.
>
> For a peek at what the IIS version looks like, and what I expect to add to
> later versions of the PHP application, see
> http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/pms-iis.gif . That one works over XMLHTTP
> and supports animated characters.
>
> The reason why the IIS version isn't online already is because I've
> written it as a server component, and no ISP I've found will register
> these without a boatload of money, something I currently could use for
> other more pressing matters.
>
> Anyway, all of that said, you can experience the lame, work in progress,
> designed for Lynx text only browsers version that I got together for the
> current need at http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/ . And I really do
> recommend picking up a copy of Lynx to use it, it's much better than using
> it through a typical web browser. I realise this version sucks, I'll be
> working throughout the week to improve it. If you do use it, you'll be
> contributing to two good causes. One being reducing the traffic in this
> area, the other being helping me to track down bugs in my application.
>
>
> Ben, hope this helps.
>
> Microcephalic S. Bob
> http://www.roblindman.com/
>
>
>





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Old 08-22-2005, 09:04 AM   #3
/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */
 
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Default Re: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
That's NOT the intention.

"Bob Christian" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Leave it to a guy named "Bob" trying to put Ben out of work...
>
> "/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@> wrote
> in message news:...
>> It's been indicated that Ben Smith has to spend an excess amount of time
>> cleaning up messages in this group.
>>
>> As one of the principal offenders, I've come up with a potential
>> solution... a web based chat room.
>>
>> I like to communicate with the members of this group, keeps my existance
>> from slipping too far into oblivion, so I'm donating the use of an
>> application I'm working on called PMS - Personal Messaging Server.
>>
>> Previously I'd written this application on MS Internet Information
>> Server, and had nearly completed all of the work, when an abhorrent new
>> 'security warning' was released which made key features of the
>> application unusable, or at least annoying enough to irritate me.
>>
>> As such, in protest, I've been porting the application over to work on
>> PHP servers.
>>
>> What this means is, the application, while stable, is in a very primitive
>> state. I can offer up the server and the bandwidth and the software, all
>> I ask is for feedback on what sort of features you'd like to see in an
>> improved version.
>>
>> For a peek at what the IIS version looks like, and what I expect to add
>> to later versions of the PHP application, see
>> http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/pms-iis.gif . That one works over XMLHTTP
>> and supports animated characters.
>>
>> The reason why the IIS version isn't online already is because I've
>> written it as a server component, and no ISP I've found will register
>> these without a boatload of money, something I currently could use for
>> other more pressing matters.
>>
>> Anyway, all of that said, you can experience the lame, work in progress,
>> designed for Lynx text only browsers version that I got together for the
>> current need at http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/ . And I really do
>> recommend picking up a copy of Lynx to use it, it's much better than
>> using it through a typical web browser. I realise this version sucks,
>> I'll be working throughout the week to improve it. If you do use it,
>> you'll be contributing to two good causes. One being reducing the traffic
>> in this area, the other being helping me to track down bugs in my
>> application.
>>
>>
>> Ben, hope this helps.
>>
>> Microcephalic S. Bob
>> http://www.roblindman.com/
>>
>>
>>

>
>





/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:23 PM   #4
JaR
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
In microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, /* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++
#7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */ spewed across the ether:

>
> Anyway, all of that said, you can experience the lame, work in
> progress, designed for Lynx text only browsers version that I got
> together for the current need at http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/ .
> And I really do recommend picking up a copy of Lynx to use it, it's
> much better than using it through a typical web browser. I realise
> this version sucks, I'll be working throughout the week to improve it.
> If you do use it, you'll be contributing to two good causes. One being
> reducing the traffic in this area, the other being helping me to track
> down bugs in my application.


I found the bug that will prevent me from using it.

"name too short"

--
JaR
Thug 10110
MCNGP.com Dept of Concise Signatures


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Old 08-22-2005, 05:00 PM   #5
Neil
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
did you hear "/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600]
*/" <@> say in news::

> http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/


has a 6 on the cool scale. but the whole idea of wrapped text, textbox
focus and non-scrolling replies is what did you in. That and the fact
that there's no beta newsgroup for it on the MS site ...

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- I don't work long hours. They are all 60 minutes, just like everyone
else's.


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Old 08-22-2005, 07:22 PM   #6
/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
Ok. I caught everyones comments here...

As I said, this is a scaled back version. The goal here is to get a
functional version up and then move over my fancier stuff.

You can try my other more experimental versions at:

http://www.roblindman.com/chat/3/ - most recent version - has a choice of
'clients'
http://www.roblindman.com/chat/2/ - a frames based version which auto
updates
http://www.roblindman.com/chat/ - semi stable version

JaR will still have the name length problem, which I intend to fix after a
nap.

Try the other ones out and let me know what you think.

I'm working on consolidating / fixing / etc. and when I am ready to go with
it, I'll put it into the MCNGP space.


Rob

"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96BA7A70EFECDneilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.1 6...
> did you hear "/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600]
> */" <@> say in news::
>
>> http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/

>
> has a 6 on the cool scale. but the whole idea of wrapped text, textbox
> focus and non-scrolling replies is what did you in. That and the fact
> that there's no beta newsgroup for it on the MS site ...
>
> --
> Neil MCNGP#30
>
> - I don't work long hours. They are all 60 minutes, just like everyone
> else's.





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Old 08-22-2005, 07:39 PM   #7
Neil
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
did you hear "/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++
#7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@> say in
news::

> http://www.roblindman.com/chat/3/ - most recent version - has a choice
> of 'clients'


like the frames.2 version of this the best so far. But if you build a
chat client for us, wont we spend less time here?

--
Neil MCNGP#30

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Old 08-22-2005, 08:01 PM   #8
Briscobar
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
Neil <guess!!!@gmail.com> rambled:
>
>> http://www.roblindman.com/chat/3/ - most recent version - has a
>> choice of 'clients'

>
> like the frames.2 version of this the best so far. But if you build a
> chat client for us, wont we spend less time here?


I also like the frames.2 version the best. However, if it weren't for the
constant pinging in the http://www.roblindman.com/chat/2/ version, that
would be my favorite. I don't mind the pinging, it's the pinging being
displayed. Other than that, it looks to be the best version.

Great work, McBob. Especially great work for throwing it together on a whim.

--
KB

MCNGP #26
Last one to www.mcngp.com is a rotten egg!




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Old 08-23-2005, 05:17 AM   #9
Rowdy Yates
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
I clicked. Once again, naked picture of Barbara Bush pop's up. DUDE!!
she's a 1,000,000 years old!!

"/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@>
wrote in news::

> It's been indicated that Ben Smith has to spend an excess amount of
> time cleaning up messages in this group.
>
> As one of the principal offenders, I've come up with a potential
> solution... a web based chat room.
>
> I like to communicate with the members of this group, keeps my
> existance from slipping too far into oblivion, so I'm donating the use
> of an application I'm working on called PMS - Personal Messaging
> Server.
>
> Previously I'd written this application on MS Internet Information
> Server, and had nearly completed all of the work, when an abhorrent
> new 'security warning' was released which made key features of the
> application unusable, or at least annoying enough to irritate me.
>
> As such, in protest, I've been porting the application over to work on
> PHP servers.
>
> What this means is, the application, while stable, is in a very
> primitive state. I can offer up the server and the bandwidth and the
> software, all I ask is for feedback on what sort of features you'd
> like to see in an improved version.
>
> For a peek at what the IIS version looks like, and what I expect to
> add to later versions of the PHP application, see
> http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/pms-iis.gif . That one works over
> XMLHTTP and supports animated characters.
>
> The reason why the IIS version isn't online already is because I've
> written it as a server component, and no ISP I've found will register
> these without a boatload of money, something I currently could use for
> other more pressing matters.
>
> Anyway, all of that said, you can experience the lame, work in
> progress, designed for Lynx text only browsers version that I got
> together for the current need at http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/ .
> And I really do recommend picking up a copy of Lynx to use it, it's
> much better than using it through a typical web browser. I realise
> this version sucks, I'll be working throughout the week to improve it.
> If you do use it, you'll be contributing to two good causes. One being
> reducing the traffic in this area, the other being helping me to track
> down bugs in my application.
>
>
> Ben, hope this helps.
>
> Microcephalic S. Bob
> http://www.roblindman.com/
>
>
>
>




--
Rowdy Yates, MCNGP Thug #39
http://www.mcngp.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp


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Old 08-23-2005, 05:22 AM   #10
Rowdy Yates
 
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Default Re: OT: MCNGP: Saving Ben Smith some time...
you know what would be real handy?

if you can put an ASCII Motley Crew logo in the top right.

"/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@>
wrote in news::

> Ok. I caught everyones comments here...
>
> As I said, this is a scaled back version. The goal here is to get a
> functional version up and then move over my fancier stuff.
>
> You can try my other more experimental versions at:
>
> http://www.roblindman.com/chat/3/ - most recent version - has a choice
> of 'clients'
> http://www.roblindman.com/chat/2/ - a frames based version which auto
> updates
> http://www.roblindman.com/chat/ - semi stable version
>
> JaR will still have the name length problem, which I intend to fix
> after a nap.
>
> Try the other ones out and let me know what you think.
>
> I'm working on consolidating / fixing / etc. and when I am ready to go
> with it, I'll put it into the MCNGP space.
>
>
> Rob
>
> "Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96BA7A70EFECDneilmcsegmailcom@207.46.248.1 6...
>> did you hear "/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++
>> #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@> say in
>> news::
>>
>>> http://www.roblindman.com/mcngp/

>>
>> has a 6 on the cool scale. but the whole idea of wrapped text,
>> textbox focus and non-scrolling replies is what did you in. That and
>> the fact that there's no beta newsgroup for it on the MS site ...
>>
>> --
>> Neil MCNGP#30
>>
>> - I don't work long hours. They are all 60 minutes, just like
>> everyone else's.

>
>




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http://www.mcngp.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp


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