How do you Rate Prcatice Test Exam With MS-Press 290 Book

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Nice One Zenner

Cheers for the advice, I am going through the mentioned web sites and find
them very good for getting further information on modules that are not
covered in various books, I am hungry to learn, and if I dont get the exam
this time, i will try again, there are more people out there that know the
MS product upside down and to coin MS phrase Inside Out, and dont have
certs. Its just a staus thing mainly for comanies to say, look how many
microsoft certified people we have on board, and for support companies to
advertise what they have to offer, well thats my 2c worth.

MS-ViSCO

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"zenner" <> wrote in message
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> The "included" exam is a decent way to track your progress, but as you
> realize...it is behind the curve. Within the Help section of the test, it
> should list a URL that will direct you to errata and/or update page.
> However, you need to realize the object of including the exam is not as
> substitute for the full flavor version you purchase from Measure Up, it's
> meant as a intro to their product line. Some people have successfully
> passed the exam using the included exam, but have also used TechNet,
> whitepapers, KB articles..etc to fill-in, augment and update things not
> covered in that version.
>
> Measure up, Transcended are arguably the most respected, legitimate exam
> simulations, they have been in the business for quite a while and stay
> with in the bounds of NDA. There are others that are no more than
> BrainDumps, garnering information from actual, current exams to give the
> user unfair advantage by offering predigested info on possible test
> subject matter. If that is your goal I just hope you have someone at your
> next job that can provide a similar service. The idea is to assimilate
> knowledge not memorize it.
>
> "VISCO" <> wrote in message
> news:%23%235T%.. .
>> High Every-1
>>
>> I am studying for the 290 MCP, I have MS-Press 290 book, my question is
>> how
>> do you's rate the prcatice test exam on the companion CD, from Measureup,
>> because the book is published in 2003, is the practice exam dated now.
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

VISCO

> Having met all the requirements of the hallowed MCNGP certification
> exam, McBob is hereby conferred upon said sacred initials.


Bob! Bob! Bob!

Congrtas and Welcome.


Dare I ask for an acceptance Speech?


kpg

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> Dare I ask for an acceptance Speech?

Hmmm... I could prolly free up the first week of October to read it...

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"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam> wrote in message
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>> Having met all the requirements of the hallowed MCNGP certification
>> exam, McBob is hereby conferred upon said sacred initials.
>
>
> Bob! Bob! Bob!
>
> Congrtas and Welcome.
>
>
> Dare I ask for an acceptance Speech?

I will be prepared to formally accept MCNGP status tomorrow, at which point
I will render a speech which will take several hours for JaR to read, not
because of it's length, but because JaR is dylsexic and the letters will
jumble.

/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++ #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */

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> JaR is dylsexic and the
> letters will jumble.

DAM - Mothers Against Dyslexia

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"Neil" <guess!!!@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> did you hear "/* Microcephalic S. Bob [MCSBNGP+++
> #7.13.86.42.1138.2600] */" <@> say in
> news::
>
>> JaR is dylsexic and the
>> letters will jumble.
>
> DAM - Mothers Against Dyslexia

You're both going to conjur-up Paisley Skye and she's going to be mad as a
wet hen.

Frisbee®

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JaR

I don't know exactly how to take the last comment...re: It's just a status
thing. Yes, it is a status thing, ...whether or not we are talking about
"just a status thing"...that's kind of up for debate.

Many companies over specify job requirements; ask for MCSE when what they
really need an MCP or MCSA Due to the current climate, they can ask for and
get exceedingly over qualified people to staff rather menial positions,
personally I don't think they are doing the candidate, the users or
themselves a favor. You can use a race horse to pull a wagon...but he ain't
gonna be happy.

I think a lot of the cheating, besides the cheater being of Low character,
is a response to the elevated requirements that have no basis in apparent
need for that level of skill. If a person sees a discrepancy between his (or
Her) daily duties and the hurdle they have to jump to get the job...it's
almost a neon sign that says...do whatever it takes to get the job, you
won't need to know most of the stuff anyway. that dilutes the respect for
the certification.

I know many companies that require MCSE/MCSA on staff to qualify for
discounts plans or to be listed on recommended lists of service providers,
vendors or sellers of products, services. The Mfg. wants to be sure that
their agent, the face the customer sees, is capable of not only selling a
solution, but can also install, administer, manage and trouble shoot the
product. It doesn't take much for a product to earn a bad reputation...an
unskilled installation leaves a bad taste in a customers mouth, then he
doesn't just blame the installer, his impression is that the product is bad.

So yes I agree there is a degree of credential creep, but to make the leap
to labeling achieving certification, especially advanced certifications, as
"just" a status thing!...is not recognizing there is a real need for
certification especially if its earned the old fashion way, by actually
knowing the product.

One other point in closing. No one will respect your credential, unless you
do first!

"VISCO" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Nice One Zenner
>
> Cheers for the advice, I am going through the mentioned web sites and find
> them very good for getting further information on modules that are not
> covered in various books, I am hungry to learn, and if I dont get the exam
> this time, i will try again, there are more people out there that know the
> MS product upside down and to coin MS phrase Inside Out, and dont have
> certs. Its just a staus thing mainly for comanies to say, look how many
> microsoft certified people we have on board, and for support companies to
> advertise what they have to offer, well thats my 2c worth.
>
> MS-ViSCO
>
> THE TRUTH iS FAR OuT
>
>
>
> "zenner" <> wrote in message
> news:Z9lOe.77$A%...
>> The "included" exam is a decent way to track your progress, but as you
>> realize...it is behind the curve. Within the Help section of the test, it
>> should list a URL that will direct you to errata and/or update page.
>> However, you need to realize the object of including the exam is not as
>> substitute for the full flavor version you purchase from Measure Up, it's
>> meant as a intro to their product line. Some people have successfully
>> passed the exam using the included exam, but have also used TechNet,
>> whitepapers, KB articles..etc to fill-in, augment and update things not
>> covered in that version.
>>
>> Measure up, Transcended are arguably the most respected, legitimate exam
>> simulations, they have been in the business for quite a while and stay
>> with in the bounds of NDA. There are others that are no more than
>> BrainDumps, garnering information from actual, current exams to give the
>> user unfair advantage by offering predigested info on possible test
>> subject matter. If that is your goal I just hope you have someone at your
>> next job that can provide a similar service. The idea is to assimilate
>> knowledge not memorize it.
>>
>> "VISCO" <> wrote in message
>> news:%23%235T%.. .
>>> High Every-1
>>>
>>> I am studying for the 290 MCP, I have MS-Press 290 book, my question is
>>> how
>>> do you's rate the prcatice test exam on the companion CD, from
>>> Measureup,
>>> because the book is published in 2003, is the practice exam dated now.
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

zenner