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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/bu...hp&oref=slogin

I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
nothing and still allows people to sign up.


"Moe" <> wrote in message
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/bu...hp&oref=slogin

It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?


> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
> nothing and still allows people to sign up.

"Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
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> It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
> is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?
>



I do, and I got it in January at 14.95 before they ended the sale.
The service is so-so, and many limitations.

They programmed the software to check your IP location. So if you leave the
country, you can no longer use the unlimited service.
I would suspect to prevent from people from selling accounts to people in
other countries.

The biggest complaint form people is they have trouble hearing me, and echo.
A PhD in computer science told me once that if you can do in hardware, the
same can be done in software.
Real world experience say BULL ****.
Having a box plugged into the internet sounds a LOT better than Skype's
voice software garbage.

Problem with Skype is their propritary protocol and that all hardware still
has to go through their software which means it's still gonna sound like
crap.
I don't want to leave a power sucking computer on all the time. Maybe in
Socialist Europe (where Skype is located) they can do that where I am sure
the government subsidizes the price of electricity.

On the receiving side it sounds good, but as I mentioned before people
always seem to have trouble hearing you.
Though in the past few days I noticed it has sounded better.

Forget about SkpeIn.
I was just about to go ahead and purchase it for $35 for a year. When I
noticed they changed the freaking price. Doubled it.
Screw them. You can get a FREE incoming number from www.aimphoneline.com.
(nearest large city)
OR you can Buy a number of your choice from Yahoo! Phone for a lot cheaper.
You can also get a free inbound number using hardware from IPKall.com,
though you have to use it with a service such as www.freeworlddialup.com
which only gives you a virtual number, hence no calling to regular phone
lines, except toll free numbers.

That is free and sounds better than Skype.










>
>> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
>> nothing and still allows people to sign up.
>
>

Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.



GeekBoy <> wrote:

> "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
> news:1i1jq0u.bnvms05ie3j8N%...
> > It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
> > is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?
> >
>
>
>
> I do, and I got it in January at 14.95 before they ended the sale.
> The service is so-so, and many limitations.
>
> They programmed the software to check your IP location. So if you leave the
> country, you can no longer use the unlimited service.
> I would suspect to prevent from people from selling accounts to people in
> other countries.
>
> The biggest complaint form people is they have trouble hearing me, and echo.
> A PhD in computer science told me once that if you can do in hardware, the
> same can be done in software.
> Real world experience say BULL ****.
> Having a box plugged into the internet sounds a LOT better than Skype's
> voice software garbage.
>
> Problem with Skype is their propritary protocol and that all hardware still
> has to go through their software which means it's still gonna sound like
> crap.
> I don't want to leave a power sucking computer on all the time. Maybe in
> Socialist Europe (where Skype is located) they can do that where I am sure
> the government subsidizes the price of electricity.
>
> On the receiving side it sounds good, but as I mentioned before people
> always seem to have trouble hearing you.
> Though in the past few days I noticed it has sounded better.
>
> Forget about SkpeIn.
> I was just about to go ahead and purchase it for $35 for a year. When I
> noticed they changed the freaking price. Doubled it.
> Screw them. You can get a FREE incoming number from www.aimphoneline.com.
> (nearest large city)
> OR you can Buy a number of your choice from Yahoo! Phone for a lot cheaper.
> You can also get a free inbound number using hardware from IPKall.com,
> though you have to use it with a service such as www.freeworlddialup.com
> which only gives you a virtual number, hence no calling to regular phone
> lines, except toll free numbers.
>
> That is free and sounds better than Skype.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
> >> nothing and still allows people to sign up.
> >
> >

"Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
> it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.
>
>
>

Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
additional options.




> GeekBoy <> wrote:
>
>> "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
>> news:1i1jq0u.bnvms05ie3j8N%...
>> > It's a real bummer - Anyone use Skype Out unlimited - at $30 a year,
>> > is is almost as good as the $200 a year/up VOIP guys?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> I do, and I got it in January at 14.95 before they ended the sale.
>> The service is so-so, and many limitations.
>>
>> They programmed the software to check your IP location. So if you leave
>> the
>> country, you can no longer use the unlimited service.
>> I would suspect to prevent from people from selling accounts to people in
>> other countries.
>>
>> The biggest complaint form people is they have trouble hearing me, and
>> echo.
>> A PhD in computer science told me once that if you can do in hardware,
>> the
>> same can be done in software.
>> Real world experience say BULL ****.
>> Having a box plugged into the internet sounds a LOT better than Skype's
>> voice software garbage.
>>
>> Problem with Skype is their propritary protocol and that all hardware
>> still
>> has to go through their software which means it's still gonna sound like
>> crap.
>> I don't want to leave a power sucking computer on all the time. Maybe in
>> Socialist Europe (where Skype is located) they can do that where I am
>> sure
>> the government subsidizes the price of electricity.
>>
>> On the receiving side it sounds good, but as I mentioned before people
>> always seem to have trouble hearing you.
>> Though in the past few days I noticed it has sounded better.
>>
>> Forget about SkpeIn.
>> I was just about to go ahead and purchase it for $35 for a year. When I
>> noticed they changed the freaking price. Doubled it.
>> Screw them. You can get a FREE incoming number from www.aimphoneline.com.
>> (nearest large city)
>> OR you can Buy a number of your choice from Yahoo! Phone for a lot
>> cheaper.
>> You can also get a free inbound number using hardware from IPKall.com,
>> though you have to use it with a service such as www.freeworlddialup.com
>> which only gives you a virtual number, hence no calling to regular phone
>> lines, except toll free numbers.
>>
>> That is free and sounds better than Skype.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> I have been reading this all over the news also, but the web site says
>> >> nothing and still allows people to sign up.
>> >
>> >

> "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
> > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
> > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.

> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
> additional options.

Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site

It seems ViaTalk is a good choice too...


> > Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
> > additional options.
> Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
> and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site
>
>

Tom Malcolm wrote:
> > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
>> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
>>> Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
>>> it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.
>
>> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
>> additional options.
>
> Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
> and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site
>
>
I've used Cordia for a couple of years, I'm on the 9.95 a month plan and
I've been satisfied, I'm on cable modem FWIW. Also I'm not a shill for
Cordia. I started with them because at the time Vonage wasn't offered
in my area code. I don't use my phone much but so far Cordia has been
OK. A couple of problems with billing and we got that straightened out,
and all in all it gets the job done. Voice quality is good, very good.
I see they have a special for SunRocket members. You decide for
yourself. Hell, now that I think of it, I ought to call them and see
if I can get a commission. What the hell, I've been satisfied enough
with them to recommend them and I can't say that about Tiger Direct, a
couple of credit card companies, Red Lobster, and many other places with
which I do business. Oh yea, when the cable is dead, the phone is
dead! 911 costs extra, there is some kind of federal tax that adds 50
cents to the bill and runs the bill up to, hummm just looked at my bill,
looks like I'm on a 14.95/month plan with the fed tax it comes to
16.45 a month. I'd better check into this.
https://www.cordiaip.com/default.asp

"Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
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> > "Tom Malcolm" <> wrote in message
>> news:1i1kgi4.1th6zcei6e2mwN%...
>> > Thanks - I think I'm going to go with Packet8 at $199 a year, so
>> > it works without any hassles like SunRocket did.
>
>> Lingo is doing the same price, but you get more calling areas and more
>> additional options.
>
> Thanks, I can't find any other options or features beyond Packet8,
> and Trend Micro PC-Cillin says Lingo is a dangerous site
>

I mean you can call more places for the included price, and it offers more
numbers from the US and other coutries.

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