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Ok, I just took the 292 for the second time. I knew that I was
underprepared the first time, so I worked on it in my spare time for a
couple of weeks. Felt much better about it, heard birds possibly chirping,
clicked "I'm done," and...

didn't pass.

Ok, not the end of the world. And I've seen much of the conversation here
about the difficulties. What I don't quite get is the scoring. There are
six categories on the test. Simply adding the bars together I was well over
the 70% (700 out of 1000) needed. But I did score lower than 70% on three
of the categories.

Do I need to:

1> Just quit whining and become perfect?
2> Bring all categories up above 70%?
3> Bring most (ie, 5) categories above 70%?

It's not as clear cut in terms of what skillset category I should focus on.

I might add that this one is particularly frustrating. Especially if you
add in the "there are some questions that don't count" issue. 40 questions,
equally spread would give 6-7 questions per category. In order to get 70%
means essentially getting 5 questions right. Add to that some of the
questions seem to be particularly squirrely in terms of scenario.

These scenarios may be more appropriate to real life, but real life doesn't
give you a 2 hour stopwatch.

Ah, well. Sorry if this sounds like whining (dusting myself off and getting
back on the horse). I absolutely understand and applaud the attempt to make
the certifications more meaningful by making the exams more challenging.

And I absolutely reserve the right, once I've passed it, to make
condescending comments about people who complain about the exam later on<g>.

--
RL (failure has a name...) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
NorthEast Ohio
www.RLCoppedge.com
RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com

"RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT" <RLCoppedge around hotmail not-dash-but
com> wrote
> 1> Just quit whining and become perfect?
> 2> Bring all categories up above 70%?
> 3> Bring most (ie, 5) categories above 70%?

Couple of suggestions:

First of all, stop shooting for the bare minimum, which by the way is not
70% or 700/1000. The pass mark is 700, the total score is not published and
it varies from test to test. Focus on the catergories you were weak in, by
all means.

Second, change tactics. How are you preparing for the exam? What materials?
Are you working hands-on? PAssing the exams is one thing, being able to work
hands-on and know what you are doing is what will count when push comes to
shove.

Good luck and keep trying.
--
T-Bone
MCNGP XL

Good advice, all. My "prepping" for the exam has been:

I've actually performed about 3 AD migrations from NT to 2k3 so far this
year, including Exchange and all that good stuff. So I'm using the tools,
etc. In addition, I've got a VPC-based network to play with, and for booky
stuff, the Microsoft self-paced 292/296 books. I started out working with
the Sybex book, but really didn't like how it measured up against what I saw
in the first exam.

My biggest weakness would seem to be (again, not liking how the feedback
focuses that) would be in the more advanced/subtle issues of DNS.

And I'm not shooting for the bare minimum, just trying to figure out how to
use the feedback to do better.

Oh, but I will survive. Yes I will. And I will pass. Yes, I will.
And...and...start getting ready for the next exam. Aw, crap<g>.

--
RL (Improving myself) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
NorthEast Ohio
www.RLCoppedge.com
RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com

"T-Bone" <reply2me@thenewsgroup> wrote in message
news:...
> "RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT" <RLCoppedge around hotmail
> not-dash-but
> com> wrote
>> 1> Just quit whining and become perfect?
>> 2> Bring all categories up above 70%?
>> 3> Bring most (ie, 5) categories above 70%?
>
> Couple of suggestions:
>
> First of all, stop shooting for the bare minimum, which by the way is not
> 70% or 700/1000. The pass mark is 700, the total score is not published
> and
> it varies from test to test. Focus on the catergories you were weak in, by
> all means.
>
> Second, change tactics. How are you preparing for the exam? What
> materials?
> Are you working hands-on? PAssing the exams is one thing, being able to
> work
> hands-on and know what you are doing is what will count when push comes to
> shove.
>
> Good luck and keep trying.
> --
> T-Bone
> MCNGP XL
>
>

I'v passed it from the 4th time (thnkx GOD or Bill(?))
but just got 775...


"RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT" <RLCoppedge around hotmail not-dash-but
com> wrote in message news_ydnRcmKv27PDnfRVn-...
> Ok, I just took the 292 for the second time. I knew that I was
> underprepared the first time, so I worked on it in my spare time for a
> couple of weeks. Felt much better about it, heard birds possibly
> chirping, clicked "I'm done," and...
>
> didn't pass.
>
> Ok, not the end of the world. And I've seen much of the conversation here
> about the difficulties. What I don't quite get is the scoring. There are
> six categories on the test. Simply adding the bars together I was well
> over the 70% (700 out of 1000) needed. But I did score lower than 70% on
> three of the categories.
>
> Do I need to:
>
> 1> Just quit whining and become perfect?
> 2> Bring all categories up above 70%?
> 3> Bring most (ie, 5) categories above 70%?
>
> It's not as clear cut in terms of what skillset category I should focus
> on.
>
> I might add that this one is particularly frustrating. Especially if you
> add in the "there are some questions that don't count" issue. 40
> questions, equally spread would give 6-7 questions per category. In order
> to get 70% means essentially getting 5 questions right. Add to that some
> of the questions seem to be particularly squirrely in terms of scenario.
>
> These scenarios may be more appropriate to real life, but real life
> doesn't give you a 2 hour stopwatch.
>
> Ah, well. Sorry if this sounds like whining (dusting myself off and
> getting back on the horse). I absolutely understand and applaud the
> attempt to make the certifications more meaningful by making the exams
> more challenging.
>
> And I absolutely reserve the right, once I've passed it, to make
> condescending comments about people who complain about the exam later
> on<g>.
>
> --
> RL (failure has a name...) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
> NorthEast Ohio
> www.RLCoppedge.com
> RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com
>
>

Congrats...and I think if you thank one, the other hears about it very
quickly<g>.

Unless, of course, their DNS is bad.

--
RL (God is my co-dependent) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
NorthEast Ohio
www.RLCoppedge.com
RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com

"Hool" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I'v passed it from the 4th time (thnkx GOD or Bill(?))
> but just got 775...
>
>
> "RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT" <RLCoppedge around hotmail
> not-dash-but com> wrote in message news_ydnRcmKv27PDnfRVn-...
>> Ok, I just took the 292 for the second time. I knew that I was
>> underprepared the first time, so I worked on it in my spare time for a
>> couple of weeks. Felt much better about it, heard birds possibly
>> chirping, clicked "I'm done," and...
>>
>> didn't pass.
>>
>> Ok, not the end of the world. And I've seen much of the conversation
>> here about the difficulties. What I don't quite get is the scoring.
>> There are six categories on the test. Simply adding the bars together I
>> was well over the 70% (700 out of 1000) needed. But I did score lower
>> than 70% on three of the categories.
>>
>> Do I need to:
>>
>> 1> Just quit whining and become perfect?
>> 2> Bring all categories up above 70%?
>> 3> Bring most (ie, 5) categories above 70%?
>>
>> It's not as clear cut in terms of what skillset category I should focus
>> on.
>>
>> I might add that this one is particularly frustrating. Especially if you
>> add in the "there are some questions that don't count" issue. 40
>> questions, equally spread would give 6-7 questions per category. In
>> order to get 70% means essentially getting 5 questions right. Add to
>> that some of the questions seem to be particularly squirrely in terms of
>> scenario.
>>
>> These scenarios may be more appropriate to real life, but real life
>> doesn't give you a 2 hour stopwatch.
>>
>> Ah, well. Sorry if this sounds like whining (dusting myself off and
>> getting back on the horse). I absolutely understand and applaud the
>> attempt to make the certifications more meaningful by making the exams
>> more challenging.
>>
>> And I absolutely reserve the right, once I've passed it, to make
>> condescending comments about people who complain about the exam later
>> on<g>.
>>
>> --
>> RL (failure has a name...) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
>> NorthEast Ohio
>> www.RLCoppedge.com
>> RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com
>>
>>
>
>

Before you go any further I suggest you take a look at:

http://www.netfresco.com/cert/70-292/

I took 070-292 FIVE times, before saying screw it and taking 290 and 291,
which were both easier, IMO. (a lot LONGER, 3 hour 45 minute tests!, but
easier)



"RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT" wrote:

> Congrats...and I think if you thank one, the other hears about it very
> quickly<g>.
>
> Unless, of course, their DNS is bad.
>
> --
> RL (God is my co-dependent) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
> NorthEast Ohio
> www.RLCoppedge.com
> RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com
>
> "Hool" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > I'v passed it from the 4th time (thnkx GOD or Bill(?))
> > but just got 775...
> >
> >
> > "RL (Bob) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT" <RLCoppedge around hotmail
> > not-dash-but com> wrote in message news_ydnRcmKv27PDnfRVn-...
> >> Ok, I just took the 292 for the second time. I knew that I was
> >> underprepared the first time, so I worked on it in my spare time for a
> >> couple of weeks. Felt much better about it, heard birds possibly
> >> chirping, clicked "I'm done," and...
> >>
> >> didn't pass.
> >>
> >> Ok, not the end of the world. And I've seen much of the conversation
> >> here about the difficulties. What I don't quite get is the scoring.
> >> There are six categories on the test. Simply adding the bars together I
> >> was well over the 70% (700 out of 1000) needed. But I did score lower
> >> than 70% on three of the categories.
> >>
> >> Do I need to:
> >>
> >> 1> Just quit whining and become perfect?
> >> 2> Bring all categories up above 70%?
> >> 3> Bring most (ie, 5) categories above 70%?
> >>
> >> It's not as clear cut in terms of what skillset category I should focus
> >> on.
> >>
> >> I might add that this one is particularly frustrating. Especially if you
> >> add in the "there are some questions that don't count" issue. 40
> >> questions, equally spread would give 6-7 questions per category. In
> >> order to get 70% means essentially getting 5 questions right. Add to
> >> that some of the questions seem to be particularly squirrely in terms of
> >> scenario.
> >>
> >> These scenarios may be more appropriate to real life, but real life
> >> doesn't give you a 2 hour stopwatch.
> >>
> >> Ah, well. Sorry if this sounds like whining (dusting myself off and
> >> getting back on the horse). I absolutely understand and applaud the
> >> attempt to make the certifications more meaningful by making the exams
> >> more challenging.
> >>
> >> And I absolutely reserve the right, once I've passed it, to make
> >> condescending comments about people who complain about the exam later
> >> on<g>.
> >>
> >> --
> >> RL (failure has a name...) Coppedge, MCSE/MCDBA/MCT
> >> NorthEast Ohio
> >> www.RLCoppedge.com
> >> RLCoppedge <around> hotmail <not dash, but...> com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

[LiS]

Oh I am not liking the sound of this exam

Took NT4 MCSE from scratch in 1999, took the 2000 upgrade in 2000 ... then had 7 years off techie exams. Now I am trying to get off my bum and get 70-292 and 70-296 done but the reviews are scary! I've ot failed one yet but there is a first time for everything. Is it just me or does 296 seem less awful than 292? (Apart from I have forgotten how to do subnetting!)

I have been working with W2K3 for a couple of years and having just bought the transcenders to test myself I'm getting around 80% with much looking up of stuff in the W2K3 admins handbook. I am aiming to take these exams by the end of the month so I will let you know how I go!

Li

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