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On Jul 9, 7:05 pm, needahookup <mike37...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi, does anyone know if its possible to obtain the ip address of a
> person by their email address or their id in a chatroom or ng posts? i
> had someone claim they got mine this way and i have heard of this
> before....is it possible? thanks for your help




thanks for that information....so how does another user on this group
go about seeing my ip address? by the way ur correct i have comcast
and somhow when u trace my ip it shows my city as well...im not
concerned about it at all just curious, but i dont know how to
actually get the ip number of another user, or how they see
mine...thanks again

needahookup <> (07-07-09 19:36:56):

> thanks for that information....so how does another user on this group
> go about seeing my ip address? by the way ur correct i have comcast
> and somhow when u trace my ip it shows my city as well...im not
> concerned about it at all just curious, but i dont know how to
> actually get the ip number of another user, or how they see
> mine...thanks again

Please reply to posts properly, i.e. click the "Reply to author" button
for the appropriate post, if you're using Google Groups.

Newsgroup messages are essentially emails, which are addressed to a
group instead of to another email address. In other words, they contain
the same information as email messages, and are syntactically
equivalent.


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naturally he does not employ security.

"needahookup" <> wrote in message
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> On Jul 9, 7:05 pm, needahookup <mike37...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi, does anyone know if its possible to obtain the ip address of a
>> person by their email address or their id in a chatroom or ng posts?
>> i
>> had someone claim they got mine this way and i have heard of this
>> before....is it possible? thanks for your help
>
> first of all...i call him a moron because he decided for no reason to
> spout off that i was not from tenn. my ip address showed him i was
> from texas, as if i cared or even knew him, and as u have already
> stated he wasnt even correct. those 2 things make him a dumb dickhead
> in my book. he had to comment for no purpose on something he didnt
> know the facts on....kinda like u did....
>


Are you corresponding with this person via e-mail? If so, and if they
got your e-mail address from here (which you show as
) then you have exposed your true e-mail address to
spambots that harvest e-mail addresses from newsgroups. Learn to munge.

If this "moron" is posting into the newsgroups, I certainly cannot see
any posts of anyone talking about Texas or Tennessee (other yours to
which I replied). I even went to Google Groups to look at the thread
(http://tinyurl.com/ytwjmj) in case whomever you were ticked off at
happened to be in my killfile which meant that I wouldn't see their
post. Nope, still don't see a post from this "moron". You are talking
to someone that no one else can see (well, that I can't see).

"needahookup" <> wrote in message
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> On Jul 9, 7:05 pm, needahookup <mike37...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi, does anyone know if its possible to obtain the ip address of a
>> person by their email address or their id in a chatroom or ng posts?
>> i
>> had someone claim they got mine this way and i have heard of this
>> before....is it possible? thanks for your help
>
> where does it show? i dont see anything like that on my screen, how do
> u see it? can it be hidden? thanks
>


Since you are not replying to the author of whatever is their post, no
one know to whom you are responding. All your replies are going under
your starter post, not under to whomever you intended to reply.

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:27:04 -0500, Vanguard wrote:

> "needahookup" wrote in message
> news: oups.com...
>>
>> akso...this moron tried claiming i was posting from texas even tho i
>> live in tenn. does my ip say what state im from? is it wrong? or was he
>> just lying or stupid...thanks
>
>
> It depends on how much anyone bothers digging into your IP information.
> Go look at:
>
> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?ip=67.187.64.8

There's other ways too, that sometimes gives more accurate hits.

http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity

"Kwon" wrote in message news...
>
> Vanguard wrote:
>>
>> It depends on how much anyone bothers digging into your IP
>> information.
>> Go look at:
>>
>> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?ip=67.187.64.8
>
> There's other ways too, that sometimes gives more accurate hits.
>
> http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity


I'm not using a lookup tool for IP address info that requires the
installation of a program, especially one that is bait for
commercialware (for prices see
http://www.maxmind.com/app/geoip_features). A big no thanks.

So when you enter 67.187.64.8 as the IP address to trace, what do YOU
get when using this locally installed tracer program? Somehow I can't
see any tracer program finding anything further than the boundary host
at a company or ISP since corporate networks are (or should be)
protected to prevent you from walking through their internal network.
When the tracer gets to 67.187.64.8, that is the boundary host at
Comcast in Texas, and you don't get to scan their internal network to
find that it then goes to their hub center in Tennessee. However, the
reverse DNS shows the IP name and Comcast, like some other ISPs, will
identify the region for the hub within the IP name, but anyone doing a
simple reverse DNS can see that, too.

needahookup wrote:
> On Jul 9, 7:05 pm, needahookup <mike37...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi, does anyone know if its possible to obtain the ip address of a
>> person by their email address or their id in a chatroom or ng posts? i
>> had someone claim they got mine this way and i have heard of this
>> before....is it possible? thanks for your help
>
>
> thanks for that information....so how does another user on this group
> go about seeing my ip address?
>

From your point of view, as a poster via Google Groups, you click on
"More Options" and "Show Original". Those using a Usenet account and a
browser such as Thunderbird, it's View/Headers/All, or similar. The
same applies to email.

Those methods show you all the headers on the post or mail, most of
which are normally hidden.


Tim Jackson

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:24:55 -0500, Vanguard wrote:

> "Kwon" wrote in message news...
>>
>> Vanguard wrote:
>>>
>>> It depends on how much anyone bothers digging into your IP
>>> information.
>>> Go look at:
>>>
>>> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?ip=67.187.64.8
>>
>> There's other ways too, that sometimes gives more accurate hits.
>>
>> http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity
>
>
> I'm not using a lookup tool for IP address info that requires the
> installation of a program, especially one that is bait for
> commercialware (for prices see
> http://www.maxmind.com/app/geoip_features). A big no thanks.

Well, the only thing I needed was the database and a script that could
read from it.

> So when you enter 67.187.64.8 as the IP address to trace, what do YOU
> get when using this locally installed tracer program?

Carrollton. Which seems to not be accurate this time. Geolite is actually
free while the "big version" costs money, but the service still are
dependent on users sending correct data to them.

Sometimes, a regular traceroute works fine too...

13 te-6-1-ar01.sharpsridge.tn.knox.comcast.net <snip>
14 te-8-1-ur01.west.tn.knox.comcast.net <snip>

.... where "tn" may be "tenn"? But such traces may require a bit more
guessing. Not reliable, in other words.

"Kwon" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:24:55 -0500, Vanguard wrote:
>
>> "Kwon" wrote in message news...
>>>
>>> Vanguard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It depends on how much anyone bothers digging into your IP
>>>> information.
>>>> Go look at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall.ch?ip=67.187.64.8
>>>
>>> There's other ways too, that sometimes gives more accurate hits.
>>>
>>> http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity
>>
>>
>> I'm not using a lookup tool for IP address info that requires the
>> installation of a program, especially one that is bait for
>> commercialware (for prices see
>> http://www.maxmind.com/app/geoip_features). A big no thanks.
>
> Well, the only thing I needed was the database and a script that could
> read from it.
>
>> So when you enter 67.187.64.8 as the IP address to trace, what do YOU
>> get when using this locally installed tracer program?
>
> Carrollton. Which seems to not be accurate this time.

So it got to the same point as anyone looking up the registration for
the domain.

> Geolite is actually
> free while the "big version" costs money, but the service still are
> dependent on users sending correct data to them.

Oh, I see how it works. You download their database. You have to
repeatedly download their database to stay up to date but there is an
update function in their code (which you need to download). If you use
their script then you need to download the C library (i.e., code). I
didn't see anything particularly nasty but I only glanced over a couple
of the main C code files.

"We obtain the known IP location pairs from sites that ask the web
visitor to provide their geographic location." So they help collect
your personal info or collude with other sites to socially engineer you
into divulging that info. For example, when you register at a site, say
to join a forum, the questions include city, state, zip, etc. which then
eventually get distributed by that site to a 3rd party, like to MaxMind.
However, the IP address is often dynamic which means someone else will
eventually get it but the trick is that IP address ranges are often
delegated in a specific region by the ISP (i.e., their IP pool at their
regional hub always uses the same IP range for those customers).

So here we have a prime example of where you might think your personal
information is private and known only to the site at which you
registered and divulged your personal info (i.e., location) but instead
it gets passed onto 3rd parties that buy the personal info, like MaxMind
whose intent is to lure you to their paid services to access that info.
So be damn sure to read the TOS at a web site when registering there to
see what they do with the personal info you give them. They could be
selling it off to "affiliates", like MaxMind.

"By accurately pinpointing the location of Internet customers and
visitors by country, geographic region, down to the granular detail of
city in real-time, MaxMind enables online businesses to have a valuable
marketing tool as well as the ability to customize their websites to
better serve clients."

Online businesses with which I deal already have my personal info. If I
order from Newegg then obviously they have to know where to ship the
order. So these "online businesses" is a euphemism for spammers
(probably web sites) that want to target their pitch based on your
location.

So, yeah, they have a free service but realize how they got that info
and to whom they are reselling it. While the lookup doesn't reveal your
info, you could check if they managed to already get it through other
venues.

> Sometimes, a regular traceroute works fine too...
>
> 13 te-6-1-ar01.sharpsridge.tn.knox.comcast.net <snip>
> 14 te-8-1-ur01.west.tn.knox.comcast.net <snip>
>
> ... where "tn" may be "tenn"? But such traces may require a bit more
> guessing. Not reliable, in other words.

Traceroute not required. All it did was show the .tn in the IP name
which was already discernable from the nslookup.