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Old 03-23-2005, 10:06 AM   #1
Default Verifying MCSE status. ??


Hi All,

It seems to me that there are so many so called MCSE's around and upon
recently interviewing one such person, I found even
the most basic of questions I asked, were responded to with blank dead
brained stares. This person is the holder of an MCSE - I
suspect very fake.
I'd like to know how I may verify any future candidate's certification
as I don't believe that them just presenting me with a copy
of their certificate and Transcript (sometimes also there official little ID
card) is quite enough to prove they actually completed
a certification. Anyone know how I might perform this verification??


TIA

Rob.





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Old 03-23-2005, 10:25 AM   #2
noob
 
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Default Verifying MCSE status. ??

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi All,
>
> It seems to me that there are so many so called

MCSE's around and upon
>recently interviewing one such person, I found even
>the most basic of questions I asked, were responded to

with blank dead
>brained stares. This person is the holder of an MCSE - I
>suspect very fake.
> I'd like to know how I may verify any future

candidate's certification
>as I don't believe that them just presenting me with a

copy
>of their certificate and Transcript (sometimes also there

official little ID
>card) is quite enough to prove they actually completed
>a certification. Anyone know how I might perform this

verification??
>
>
>TIA
>
>Rob.
>
>
>
>.
>

I think you can get them to log into the MCP site:
https://partnering.one.microsoft.com...cate/login.asp
x

And view their Transcripts but I think their might be an
easy way. I'm sure the MCNGP will have a better solution
when they wake up.



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Old 03-23-2005, 12:23 PM   #3
The Rev \(MCT\)
 
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Default Re: Verifying MCSE status. ??
Yes. Instead of having them login go here and verify his status.

www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/transcripts

You can request a transcript sharing code from any MCP. What you need is the
purpose of this site. With that said I know some people that don't like to
give their information out. (I don't know why) And also his MCSE+I might be
real. Those people are what we call Paper MCSE's and they are basically
useless, because instead of learning they simply memorized questions and
answers with a brain dump. I know of several companies that request that
sharing code of their potential new hires, a practice I think more companies
need to start using.
--
"The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because I'm always right.

Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
justafreak.com
..
"noob" <> wrote in message
news:046401c52f92$92408600$...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi All,
> >
> > It seems to me that there are so many so called

> MCSE's around and upon
> >recently interviewing one such person, I found even
> >the most basic of questions I asked, were responded to

> with blank dead
> >brained stares. This person is the holder of an MCSE - I
> >suspect very fake.
> > I'd like to know how I may verify any future

> candidate's certification
> >as I don't believe that them just presenting me with a

> copy
> >of their certificate and Transcript (sometimes also there

> official little ID
> >card) is quite enough to prove they actually completed
> >a certification. Anyone know how I might perform this

> verification??
> >
> >
> >TIA
> >
> >Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

> I think you can get them to log into the MCP site:
> https://partnering.one.microsoft.com...cate/login.asp
> x
>
> And view their Transcripts but I think their might be an
> easy way. I'm sure the MCNGP will have a better solution
> when they wake up.
>





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Old 03-23-2005, 12:57 PM   #4
noob mcp windows 2000
 
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Default Re: Verifying MCSE status. ??
I shouldn't have missed that one, I had logged into mcp
and everything. Must have been in front of me. Oh well
it's a cold wet Irish Wednesday and spent most of it
unlocking user accounts. So I'll blame the weather and
some of idiots I work with for making me frustrated.

And yes believe your eyes, you did read it correctly. Noob
is now MCP in windows 2000 professional; it's not much but
it's a start on the road to glory. I know I should have
tried for the windows XP exam but I have been using 2000
for so long now I was very confident that I would pass it.
So now Windows 20003 sever your mine muhahahahha

>-----Original Message-----
>Yes. Instead of having them login go here and verify his

status.
>
>www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/transcripts
>
>You can request a transcript sharing code from any MCP.

What you need is the
>purpose of this site. With that said I know some people

that don't like to
>give their information out. (I don't know why) And also

his MCSE+I might be
>real. Those people are what we call Paper MCSE's and they

are basically
>useless, because instead of learning they simply

memorized questions and
>answers with a brain dump. I know of several companies

that request that
>sharing code of their potential new hires, a practice I

think more companies
>need to start using.
>--
>"The Rev" MCT/MCNGP #44
>I may sound arrogant at times, but that's only because

I'm always right.
>
>Memories fade but a Google search never forgets.
>justafreak.com
>..
>"noob" <> wrote in

message
>news:046401c52f92$92408600$...
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hi All,
>> >
>> > It seems to me that there are so many so called

>> MCSE's around and upon
>> >recently interviewing one such person, I found even
>> >the most basic of questions I asked, were responded to

>> with blank dead
>> >brained stares. This person is the holder of an MCSE -

I
>> >suspect very fake.
>> > I'd like to know how I may verify any future

>> candidate's certification
>> >as I don't believe that them just presenting me with a

>> copy
>> >of their certificate and Transcript (sometimes also

there
>> official little ID
>> >card) is quite enough to prove they actually completed
>> >a certification. Anyone know how I might perform this

>> verification??
>> >
>> >
>> >TIA
>> >
>> >Rob.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>> I think you can get them to log into the MCP site:
>>

https://partnering.one.microsoft.com...cate/login.asp
>> x
>>
>> And view their Transcripts but I think their might be an
>> easy way. I'm sure the MCNGP will have a better solution
>> when they wake up.
>>

>
>
>.
>



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Old 03-23-2005, 01:11 PM   #5
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"rlw" <> wrote in message
news:1111572348.1824caec53e587cadf7b2cd77225b9e3@t eranews...
> Hi All,
>
> It seems to me that there are so many so called MCSE's around and upon
> recently interviewing one such person, I found even
> the most basic of questions I asked, were responded to with blank dead
> brained stares. This person is the holder of an MCSE - I
> suspect very fake.
> I'd like to know how I may verify any future candidate's certification
> as I don't believe that them just presenting me with a copy
> of their certificate and Transcript (sometimes also there official little

ID
> card) is quite enough to prove they actually completed
> a certification. Anyone know how I might perform this verification??
>
>
> TIA
>
> Rob.
>

You may discover that he indeed does have MCSE credentials. I would hope
during the hiring process that managers take into account formal education
and relevant experience over certification.

steve.




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Old 03-23-2005, 02:04 PM   #6
Neil
 
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Default Re: Verifying MCSE status. ??
did you hear "noob mcp windows 2000"
<> say in news:0bc701c52fa7$e647db80
$:

> And yes believe your eyes, you did read it correctly. Noob
> is now MCP in windows 2000 professional; it's not much but
> it's a start on the road to glory.


CON-GRAB-U-LATIONS! (and trust me there is no glory)

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- 42? 7 and a half million years and all you can come up with is 42?!


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Old 03-23-2005, 02:04 PM   #7
Briscobar
 
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In news:%,
molsonexpert <> rambled:
> "rlw" <> wrote in message
> news:1111572348.1824caec53e587cadf7b2cd77225b9e3@t eranews...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It seems to me that there are so many so called MCSE's around
>> and upon recently interviewing one such person, I found even
>> the most basic of questions I asked, were responded to with blank
>> dead brained stares. This person is the holder of an MCSE - I
>> suspect very fake.
>> I'd like to know how I may verify any future candidate's
>> certification as I don't believe that them just presenting me with a
>> copy
>> of their certificate and Transcript (sometimes also there official
>> little ID card) is quite enough to prove they actually completed
>> a certification. Anyone know how I might perform this verification??
>>
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Rob.
>>

> You may discover that he indeed does have MCSE credentials. I would
> hope during the hiring process that managers take into account formal
> education and relevant experience over certification.
>
> steve.


Agreed, but that's not the point. Whether this guy has a college education
or not is pretty irrelevant if he blatantly lied during his interview,
right?

--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

Briscobar AT gmail DOT com

www.mcngp.com makes me fukcing sick to my stomach.




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Old 03-23-2005, 02:05 PM   #8
Neil
 
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did you hear "molsonexpert" <> say in
news:#:

> You may discover that he indeed does have MCSE credentials. I would
> hope during the hiring process that managers take into account formal
> education and relevant experience over certification.
>


DING! Paper MCSEs exist. HR driods see teh cert and go "ooooooo" but it
usually falls apart for the paper cert in the interview or shortly after.

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Is it OK to yell "MOVIE" in a crowded firehouse?


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Old 03-23-2005, 02:10 PM   #9
Neil
 
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did you hear "The Rev \(MCT\)" <> say in
news::

> Yes. Instead of having them login go here and verify his status.
>
> www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/transcripts


like this

transcript ID: 655074

access code: NeilMCSE

(I'm not affraid to share.)

Just becuase the guy even HAS the MCSE or even if he is "der uber-
brainiak" might not be enough though. Will the candidate FIT in your org.
I know some really smart MCSEs (not paper) that will fit well in one
company but not in another.

but hey alt.hr.howtohire.mcse is over there ----------->

--
Neil MCNGP#30

- Start button: The Windows 95 version of "C:\>".


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Old 03-23-2005, 02:19 PM   #10
Neil
 
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did you hear "Briscobar" <> say in
news::

> if he blatantly lied


he may not have. or are you saying that the MCSE is very difficult to get
for cheating sapsuckers who braindump?

--
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- Those are the memories that make me a wealthy soul.


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