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Joe Boland
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      12-22-2004
Hi guys, for starters, I'm new to the forum.

Anyway, to get things started, I am currently an MCSA as well as A+
certified.

After reading all the things out there about paper techs, I'm really
worried about becoming one myself - being certified without really
having a full grasp on the material. I've used self-test software and
the Microsoft Official Curriculum, and I've done fine so far, averaging
about an 80% score on my exams, from what I can make of the scoring system.

I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for fear
of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix. I don't know if
paper techs come across this feeling (or even care if they know what
they're talking about or not), but I guess I have a sense of pride and
dignity, and am worried about not knowing what to do when crunch time comes.

Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?

-Joe
 
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      12-22-2004

"Joe Boland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>
> -Joe


Joe
It sounds to me like you'll do OK. These paper techs who are clueless are so
dumb they don't realize they are incompetent. Search through the threads
Neil posted a link to a great article about this. Truly clueless people
don't know they're clueless. I would try to get as much hands on experience
as you can.(but that's obvious)


 
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kpg
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      12-22-2004
"Joe Boland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> <various snipage>
> I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for fear
> of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix.
>
> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>
> -Joe


Only for the ones that give a crap. The hard core paper cert
doesn't know he doesn't know. You are at least on the right
path, grasshopper.

kp "watch for falling bookshelves" g

 
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LnkWizard
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      12-22-2004
Your feelings are normal especially if you have not had
too much in the way of hands on training. Your best bet
is to get your mitts on some virtual PC software and a
really decent PC and set yourself up a network to practice on.
Set it up, break it, fix it, try to come up with ways that the
lusers will crash it and solve those problems. Think of all
the asinine requests that you could possibly get from the
PHB's (Management) and either be able to show them
that it can't be done or know how to do it before it happens.

This is truly one of those fields where hands-on training is a must.

I myself was very lucky, I had a good hands-on background with PC's
and networks before I received an excellent opportunity to get my
book learning. Now I have a really cool boss who is willing to let me
get the final bits of knowledge and polish on a live system.

NO, Neil, I haven't crashed the
network..................................yet.

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"Joe Boland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Mwbyd.98$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi guys, for starters, I'm new to the forum.
>
> Anyway, to get things started, I am currently an MCSA as well as A+
> certified.
>
> After reading all the things out there about paper techs, I'm really
> worried about becoming one myself - being certified without really
> having a full grasp on the material. I've used self-test software and
> the Microsoft Official Curriculum, and I've done fine so far, averaging
> about an 80% score on my exams, from what I can make of the scoring

system.
>
> I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for fear
> of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix. I don't know if
> paper techs come across this feeling (or even care if they know what
> they're talking about or not), but I guess I have a sense of pride and
> dignity, and am worried about not knowing what to do when crunch time

comes.
>
> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>
> -Joe



 
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Ken Briscoe
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      12-22-2004
In news:Mwbyd.98$(E-Mail Removed),
Joe Boland <(E-Mail Removed)> rambled:
>
> Hi guys, for starters, I'm new to the forum.


Beware, we "torture newbies".

> Anyway, to get things started, I am currently an MCSA as well as A+
> certified.
>
> After reading all the things out there about paper techs, I'm really
> worried about becoming one myself - being certified without really
> having a full grasp on the material. I've used self-test software and
> the Microsoft Official Curriculum, and I've done fine so far,
> averaging about an 80% score on my exams, from what I can make of the
> scoring system.
>
> I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for
> fear
> of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix. I don't know if
> paper techs come across this feeling (or even care if they know what
> they're talking about or not), but I guess I have a sense of pride and
> dignity, and am worried about not knowing what to do when crunch time
> comes.
>
> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>


Heh, of course. No one, no matter what Consultant will tell you, knows
everything. There are problems that everybody needs help with. Being a good
tech is only partly about knowing a lot. Another part of it is knowing where
to go to learn what you don't know.[1] Still another part is, despite the
reputation of the average MCSE, is keeping the lusers happy.

I think that your first problem, before worrying about screwing up on the
job, is actually getting the job. No offense intended, but the IT industry
isn't exactly overflowing with jobs. Of course, for the qualified (and
experienced), they're still out there. But for a newbie, it's difficult to
break in. I lucked out, as I was basically handed the job, and I've worked
my way up over the last couple years. But it's not so easy for everyone. I
don't mean to intimidate you or scare you into thinking you have a life of
poverty ahead. I just want you to be aware that IT isn't what it once was.

Anyway, best of luck.

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Ken Briscoe
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      12-22-2004
In news:(E-Mail Removed),
Ken Briscoe <(E-Mail Removed)> rambled:
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> Another part of it is knowing where to go to learn what you don't know.[1]


Uh duh...

[1] Technet, google, books, trial-and-error, and here. Roughly in that
order.

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Consultant
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      12-22-2004
now, try to snatch pebble from hand

"kpg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Joe Boland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Mwbyd.98$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> <various snipage>
>> I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for fear
>> of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix.
>>
>> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>>
>> -Joe

>
> Only for the ones that give a crap. The hard core paper cert
> doesn't know he doesn't know. You are at least on the right
> path, grasshopper.
>
> kp "watch for falling bookshelves" g
>



 
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Consultant
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      12-22-2004
what are you trying to say, ken


"Ken Briscoe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In news:Mwbyd.98$(E-Mail Removed),
> Joe Boland <(E-Mail Removed)> rambled:
>>
>> Hi guys, for starters, I'm new to the forum.

>
> Beware, we "torture newbies".
>
>> Anyway, to get things started, I am currently an MCSA as well as A+
>> certified.
>>
>> After reading all the things out there about paper techs, I'm really
>> worried about becoming one myself - being certified without really
>> having a full grasp on the material. I've used self-test software and
>> the Microsoft Official Curriculum, and I've done fine so far,
>> averaging about an 80% score on my exams, from what I can make of the
>> scoring system.
>>
>> I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for
>> fear
>> of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix. I don't know if
>> paper techs come across this feeling (or even care if they know what
>> they're talking about or not), but I guess I have a sense of pride and
>> dignity, and am worried about not knowing what to do when crunch time
>> comes.
>>
>> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>>

>
> Heh, of course. No one, no matter what Consultant will tell you, knows
> everything. There are problems that everybody needs help with. Being a
> good
> tech is only partly about knowing a lot. Another part of it is knowing
> where
> to go to learn what you don't know.[1] Still another part is, despite the
> reputation of the average MCSE, is keeping the lusers happy.
>
> I think that your first problem, before worrying about screwing up on the
> job, is actually getting the job. No offense intended, but the IT industry
> isn't exactly overflowing with jobs. Of course, for the qualified (and
> experienced), they're still out there. But for a newbie, it's difficult to
> break in. I lucked out, as I was basically handed the job, and I've worked
> my way up over the last couple years. But it's not so easy for everyone. I
> don't mean to intimidate you or scare you into thinking you have a life of
> poverty ahead. I just want you to be aware that IT isn't what it once was.
>
> Anyway, best of luck.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> Briscobar AT gmail DOT com
>
> My psychiatrist recommends 10mg of Valium, a shot of Tequila, and
> twice-daily viewings of the b00bz0rs forum on www.mcngp.com
>
>



 
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Rowdy Yates
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      12-22-2004
then try to pull the finger out of the dike.

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoodotcom> wrote in
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> now, try to snatch pebble from hand
>
> "kpg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Joe Boland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:Mwbyd.98$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> <various snipage>
>>> I guess I'm just worried about getting a job in the IT industry for
>>> fear of coming across a problem I don't know how to fix.
>>>
>>> Anyway, is this a normal feeling for any newly certified tech?
>>>
>>> -Joe

>>
>> Only for the ones that give a crap. The hard core paper cert
>> doesn't know he doesn't know. You are at least on the right
>> path, grasshopper.
>>
>> kp "watch for falling bookshelves" g
>>

>
>




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      12-22-2004
"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoodotcom> wrote in news:O8ek3kD6EHA.3076
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> what are you trying to say, ken
>


I DON'T UNDERSTAND!! HELP ME!!! I NEED TO UNDERSTAND!!!

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