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Old 06-02-2007, 11:58 AM   #1
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hey to anyone who can help me!

i just recently bought a wireless modem router to use at home. I was
assured i could use this for file sharing and LAN games between
another PC with a wireless network card and my main computer which is
only connected to the router. both the router and the other computers
card are 802.11g wireless. i was really hoping to get this connection
up but on my other computer, the network card doesnt even see the
wireless router, and on the router the wireless LED isnt lit. on the
main computer it says i have a local area conection with 100Mbps, but
im really confused because i cant change any of the settings on the
router/modem. i have tried multiple times on both computers to set up
networks to no avail using all different wizards, so any help to get
the two computers talking would be great!!

thanks!



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Old 06-02-2007, 02:20 PM   #2
Barb Bowman
 
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Default Re: basic networking
1. what brand and model "wireless modem router" (and where did u buy
it?)
2. you state you can't change the settings on this device. what
stops you?

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:58:42 -0700, wrote:

>hey to anyone who can help me!
>
>i just recently bought a wireless modem router to use at home. I was
>assured i could use this for file sharing and LAN games between
>another PC with a wireless network card and my main computer which is
>only connected to the router. both the router and the other computers
>card are 802.11g wireless. i was really hoping to get this connection
>up but on my other computer, the network card doesnt even see the
>wireless router, and on the router the wireless LED isnt lit. on the
>main computer it says i have a local area conection with 100Mbps, but
>im really confused because i cant change any of the settings on the
>router/modem. i have tried multiple times on both computers to set up
>networks to no avail using all different wizards, so any help to get
>the two computers talking would be great!!
>
>thanks!

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


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Old 06-02-2007, 05:51 PM   #3
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 
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Hi
You need at least one computer connected to the Router with cable.
Why? http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#onewire
Once you configure the Router via the wire, you can configure the Wireless
part.
The Router is not an active device concerning File Sharing between
computers. When all computers are capable to connect to the Router you have
to set the Sharing settings on all computers.
This might help with Wireless setting.
My New Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
As far as sharing goes.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

<> wrote in message
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> hey to anyone who can help me!
>
> i just recently bought a wireless modem router to use at home. I was
> assured i could use this for file sharing and LAN games between
> another PC with a wireless network card and my main computer which is
> only connected to the router. both the router and the other computers
> card are 802.11g wireless. i was really hoping to get this connection
> up but on my other computer, the network card doesnt even see the
> wireless router, and on the router the wireless LED isnt lit. on the
> main computer it says i have a local area conection with 100Mbps, but
> im really confused because i cant change any of the settings on the
> router/modem. i have tried multiple times on both computers to set up
> networks to no avail using all different wizards, so any help to get
> the two computers talking would be great!!
>
> thanks!
>





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Old 06-03-2007, 10:08 AM   #4
simonhepple69@hotmail.com
 
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hey thanks for the reply!

my main computer is connected with the cat-5 cable that came with the
router, but my computer doesnt even see the connection as a router -
it only says its connecting to a LAN through my Gigabit extreme
ethernet connection - no mention about any other kind of device. the
problem im having at the moment isnt with my second computer not being
set up right to access the wireless network - it cant even recognise
that there is a wireless router sitting right next to it! my other
computer's wireless is an ASUS WL-138G adaptor. the only thing that
was close to being the setup for the router was when i entered a
specific IP adress (assumeably for the router) in mozilla it said set
up adsl. when i did this it said adsl not connected before closing the
window (i dont have adsl 2+ connected just yet - will this be why?).
is there a special progam i need to download to set up the router so
the computer can see it?

thanks!



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Old 06-03-2007, 11:18 AM   #5
Barb Bowman
 
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what brand and model wireless router? many have wizard based as well
s manual setups.

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:08:59 -0700, wrote:

>hey thanks for the reply!
>
>my main computer is connected with the cat-5 cable that came with the
>router, but my computer doesnt even see the connection as a router -
>it only says its connecting to a LAN through my Gigabit extreme
>ethernet connection - no mention about any other kind of device. the
>problem im having at the moment isnt with my second computer not being
>set up right to access the wireless network - it cant even recognise
>that there is a wireless router sitting right next to it! my other
>computer's wireless is an ASUS WL-138G adaptor. the only thing that
>was close to being the setup for the router was when i entered a
>specific IP adress (assumeably for the router) in mozilla it said set
>up adsl. when i did this it said adsl not connected before closing the
>window (i dont have adsl 2+ connected just yet - will this be why?).
>is there a special progam i need to download to set up the router so
>the computer can see it?
>
>thanks!

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


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Old 06-03-2007, 09:25 PM   #6
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 
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Hi
The computers do not recognize the Router or the Wireless part of the
Router as special device, the Router it just another network device with
is own IP number.
If you type into the Address Bar of the Internet Browser the IP number of
the Router, you should get the Router's Menu interface (Read your Router's
manual) including the Wireless setup system.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

<> wrote in message
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> hey thanks for the reply!
>
> my main computer is connected with the cat-5 cable that came with the
> router, but my computer doesnt even see the connection as a router -
> it only says its connecting to a LAN through my Gigabit extreme
> ethernet connection - no mention about any other kind of device. the
> problem im having at the moment isnt with my second computer not being
> set up right to access the wireless network - it cant even recognise
> that there is a wireless router sitting right next to it! my other
> computer's wireless is an ASUS WL-138G adaptor. the only thing that
> was close to being the setup for the router was when i entered a
> specific IP adress (assumeably for the router) in mozilla it said set
> up adsl. when i did this it said adsl not connected before closing the
> window (i dont have adsl 2+ connected just yet - will this be why?).
> is there a special progam i need to download to set up the router so
> the computer can see it?
>
> thanks!
>





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Old 06-04-2007, 01:21 AM   #7
simonhepple69@hotmail.com
 
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On Jun 3, 8:18 pm, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
> what brand and model wireless router? many have wizard based as well
> s manual setups.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:08:59 -0700, simonheppl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >hey thanks for the reply!

>
> >my main computer is connected with the cat-5 cable that came with the
> >router, but my computer doesnt even see the connection as a router -
> >it only says its connecting to a LAN through my Gigabit extreme
> >ethernet connection - no mention about any other kind of device. the
> >problem im having at the moment isnt with my second computer not being
> >set up right to access the wireless network - it cant even recognise
> >that there is a wireless router sitting right next to it! my other
> >computer's wireless is an ASUS WL-138G adaptor. the only thing that
> >was close to being the setup for the router was when i entered a
> >specific IP adress (assumeably for the router) in mozilla it said set
> >up adsl. when i did this it said adsl not connected before closing the
> >window (i dont have adsl 2+ connected just yet - will this be why?).
> >is there a special progam i need to download to set up the router so
> >the computer can see it?

>
> >thanks!

>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnisthttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


its a netgear DG834G v3. im pretty sure it just has the webpage setup
- as when i put in the cd a mozilla page came up.



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Old 06-04-2007, 09:58 AM   #8
Barb Bowman
 
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Rather than use the CD, from the computer that is plugged in - open
a web browser and go to http://192.168.0.1 (some routers will not
let you do thius over wireless, as a security precaution so use the
computer that is wired)

Netgea uses admin for the user name
and password by the default - if you changed this, use what you
changed it to.

From the web page, you should be able to view and change settings.

Now, you need to setup the wireless. You need to change the SSID to
something unique and not personal. And you should setup security.
Use WPA2 if all computers support it, otherwise use WPA. WEP is not
safe.

Please see if you can get this far. Test each computer and see if it
can connect to the Internet.

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:21:45 -0700, wrote:

>
>its a netgear DG834G v3. im pretty sure it just has the webpage setup
>- as when i put in the cd a mozilla page came up.

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


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Old 06-07-2007, 01:04 PM   #9
simonhepple69@hotmail.com
 
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On Jun 4, 6:58 pm, Barb Bowman <b...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Rather than use the CD, from the computer that is plugged in - open
> a web browser and go tohttp://192.168.0.1(some routers will not
> let you do thius over wireless, as a security precaution so use the
> computer that is wired)
>
> Netgea uses admin for the user name
> and password by the default - if you changed this, use what you
> changed it to.
>
> From the web page, you should be able to view and change settings.
>
> Now, you need to setup the wireless. You need to change the SSID to
> something unique and not personal. And you should setup security.
> Use WPA2 if all computers support it, otherwise use WPA. WEP is not
> safe.
>
> Please see if you can get this far. Test each computer and see if it
> can connect to the Internet.
>
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:21:45 -0700, simonheppl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >its a netgear DG834G v3. im pretty sure it just has the webpage setup
> >- as when i put in the cd a mozilla page came up.

>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnisthttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


hey guys thank u all for ur help, but its still too deep for me so iv
decided to get a pro to do it! but thank u all ur help was really
appreiciated!



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