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      05-28-2007

On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:59:17 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:

>"why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>> <snip>
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>> 3/4's of the way through tonights upgrade and it was cancelled all those
>> patch cables pulled only to put back.
>>

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>How can they do that? All the time invested, the components, etc. Cancelling
>work in progress just seems stupid.


An Idiot manager, panics over 3 floors of patches changed to new kit
last week. 3 minor issues affecting 5 people here, 10 over there, 5
somewhere else. The old and new networks are running in parallel so
simple fix is keep those with issues on the old set of IP addresses and
move whatever 97%+ of the rest. We are already not moving for now kit
that has static IPs anyway.

The customer company also cancelled a night shift.

>I stopped by the office this morning and looked at the server that's been
>disconnecting. It didn't go down one time all weekend. I did change the
>cables anyway since I was there. I'm wondering if I have some workstation


Always worth changing cables, and sometimes the run under the floor. We
get the odd PC doesn't work, replace patches at both ends, retest with
the NetTool still fails. Original patch cables work if moved to another
underfloor link.

Must the rats eating 1 wire out of the 8 in the UTP cable, and reparing
it overnight as sometimes no problems are found.

>causing the problem? It always seems to be just past 6:30 (someone logging
>in then?) or just after 1:00 (back from lunch?) Hmmmm...maybe I'll have
>payroll check that against the timesheets turned in...


That sounds a bit better, 2 nice distinct times.

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      05-28-2007
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> On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:59:17 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:
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>>"why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>>> <snip>

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> Always worth changing cables, and sometimes the run under the floor. We
> get the odd PC doesn't work, replace patches at both ends, retest with
> the NetTool still fails. Original patch cables work if moved to another
> underfloor link.
>
> Must the rats eating 1 wire out of the 8 in the UTP cable, and reparing
> it overnight as sometimes no problems are found.
>


Heh! I had a $5K Zebra thermal transfer label printer die in production
about 12 years ago. Some freakin' mouse had crawled inside and took a ****
on the stepper motor controller. The manufacturer quoted us nearly $1K to
fix it. I had a friend get me the schematics, traced down which IC had to be
replaced, found it and fixed it myself. Just under $100 - and I've done all
the repairs and maintenance on those printers ever since. Unfortunately,
since about couple of years ago the thermal printheads are no longer
available, we just had to replace the printer - after 18 years of hard
service. New model required me to re-write the label format information
files, but no big deal - I wrote the entire custom DB and stuff in
QuickBasic 4.5 many years ago <g>.

Rats, mice, rodents of many varieties - not kind to the industry.


 
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      05-29-2007

On Mon, 28 May 2007 16:33:01 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:

>"why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 28 May 2007 14:59:17 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:
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>>>"why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>>>> <snip>

>>
>> Always worth changing cables, and sometimes the run under the floor. We
>> get the odd PC doesn't work, replace patches at both ends, retest with
>> the NetTool still fails. Original patch cables work if moved to another
>> underfloor link.
>>
>> Must the rats eating 1 wire out of the 8 in the UTP cable, and reparing
>> it overnight as sometimes no problems are found.
>>

>
>Heh! I had a $5K Zebra thermal transfer label printer die in production
>about 12 years ago. Some freakin' mouse had crawled inside and took a ****


That's torn it you had to mention Zebra printers groan.....

<snip>

>Rats, mice, rodents of many varieties - not kind to the industry.


In the old building we used to be in, one had to check chair and desk
for rat crap in the mornings. It's 1 way to enforce a clean desk policy
and making everyone tidy up each night.

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      05-29-2007
"why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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> In the old building we used to be in, one had to check chair and desk
> for rat crap in the mornings. It's 1 way to enforce a clean desk policy
> and making everyone tidy up each night.
>


LOL!! Not at our place. We got some real pigs there. Now, my desk and
workspace may be cluttered (odd laptops, computer parts, boxes from
incoming/outgoing parcels, etc.) but at least one could eat in there without
fearing for food poisoning. Some of the OTHER offices though...


 
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      05-30-2007
On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:46:07 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:

> "why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>> In the old building we used to be in, one had to check chair and desk
>> for rat crap in the mornings. It's 1 way to enforce a clean desk policy
>> and making everyone tidy up each night.
>>

>
> LOL!! Not at our place. We got some real pigs there. Now, my desk and
> workspace may be cluttered (odd laptops, computer parts, boxes from
> incoming/outgoing parcels, etc.) but at least one could eat in there without
> fearing for food poisoning. Some of the OTHER offices though...


The last job before retirement gave us good reason to be VERY clean by
habit. We were a research chemical supply company. If you couldn't
identify something don't touch it until a chemist checked. If you knew it
to toxic get a chemist. NEVER eat or drink from an open container outside
the lunch room. There were any number of safety procedures in place. Talk
about reason to clean up!

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      05-30-2007
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> On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:46:07 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:
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>> "why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>>> In the old building we used to be in, one had to check chair and desk
>>> for rat crap in the mornings. It's 1 way to enforce a clean desk policy
>>> and making everyone tidy up each night.
>>>

>>
>> LOL!! Not at our place. We got some real pigs there. Now, my desk and
>> workspace may be cluttered (odd laptops, computer parts, boxes from
>> incoming/outgoing parcels, etc.) but at least one could eat in there
>> without
>> fearing for food poisoning. Some of the OTHER offices though...

>
> The last job before retirement gave us good reason to be VERY clean by
> habit. We were a research chemical supply company. If you couldn't
> identify something don't touch it until a chemist checked. If you knew it
> to toxic get a chemist. NEVER eat or drink from an open container outside
> the lunch room. There were any number of safety procedures in place. Talk
> about reason to clean up!
>


Can't argue with those policies <g>


 
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      05-30-2007

On Tue, 29 May 2007 20:08:42 -0400, Top wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:46:07 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:
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>> "why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> In the old building we used to be in, one had to check chair and desk
>>> for rat crap in the mornings. It's 1 way to enforce a clean desk policy
>>> and making everyone tidy up each night.
>>>

>>
>> LOL!! Not at our place. We got some real pigs there. Now, my desk and
>> workspace may be cluttered (odd laptops, computer parts, boxes from
>> incoming/outgoing parcels, etc.) but at least one could eat in there without
>> fearing for food poisoning. Some of the OTHER offices though...

>
>The last job before retirement gave us good reason to be VERY clean by
>habit. We were a research chemical supply company. If you couldn't
>identify something don't touch it until a chemist checked. If you knew it
>to toxic get a chemist. NEVER eat or drink from an open container outside
>the lunch room. There were any number of safety procedures in place. Talk
>about reason to clean up!


Makes a lot of sense.

If only the similar thing could be said for users, It is really really
totally a pain to get a helpdesk call, customer chasing for thier own
fault.

There is nothing I can do until after they phone up telling me they
plugged the PC into a) the phone RJ45 socket, b) the socket that isn't
connected or c) the wrong network. Putting the cable back into the
correct socket never seems to happen.

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      05-31-2007
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> On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:56:41 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:
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>>Here's a strange one for you:
>>
>>Dell server, less than three years old, running NetWare 6.5 SBE. Been
>>totally flawless until the last few weeks. Now, every morning between 6:30
>>and 6:35 the (onboard) NIC "disconnects". Server loses connection with
>>switch, all logged on PCs take a dump and need to re-logon. The 9 year old
>>server next to it, on the same AC line, and the same switch has no issues.
>>
>>I updated the NetWare to the latest service pack, I updated the NIC
>>drivers,
>>no change. The AC seems to be fine (no reports in the battery backup
>>monitoring software logs), I replaced the switch. I think tomorrow I'll
>>stop
>>by (no one is working) and replace the patch cables. But short of putting
>>a
>>new NIC in the machine, I'm pretty much lost <g>

>
> Not so strange,
>



Fixed. It was the vacuum cleaner.

No joke! Every morning the cleaning crew plugs in their commercial vacuum
cleaner on the outside of the room our switches are in. It sucks the AC down
enough that the switches restart. Apparently the UPS in there died recently,
and so it wasn't cleaning up the power. The OLD server is so slow to respond
to the lost connection, that the connection is up before it's even noticed
<g>

So now I'm going shopping for batteries for the UPS. And I'm having the
electricians look at the power situation there. So much fun



 
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      06-02-2007

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:51:57 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:

>"why?" <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:56:41 -0700, WhzzKdd wrote:
>>>
>>>Here's a strange one for you:
>>>
>>>Dell server, less than three years old, running NetWare 6.5 SBE. Been
>>>totally flawless until the last few weeks. Now, every morning between 6:30
>>>and 6:35 the (onboard) NIC "disconnects". Server loses connection with
>>>switch, all logged on PCs take a dump and need to re-logon. The 9 year old
>>>server next to it, on the same AC line, and the same switch has no issues.
>>>
>>>I updated the NetWare to the latest service pack, I updated the NIC
>>>drivers,
>>>no change. The AC seems to be fine (no reports in the battery backup
>>>monitoring software logs), I replaced the switch. I think tomorrow I'll
>>>stop
>>>by (no one is working) and replace the patch cables. But short of putting
>>>a
>>>new NIC in the machine, I'm pretty much lost <g>

>>
>> Not so strange,
>>

>
>
>Fixed. It was the vacuum cleaner.
>
>No joke! Every morning the cleaning crew plugs in their commercial vacuum
>cleaner on the outside of the room our switches are in. It sucks the AC down
>enough that the switches restart. Apparently the UPS in there died recently,
>and so it wasn't cleaning up the power. The OLD server is so slow to respond
>to the lost connection, that the connection is up before it's even noticed
><g>


It's usually something like that at the same time.

We have cleaners sockets all over the building, older part of site it's
twin wall mounted filters sockets, other building they are round covers
in the floor tiles.

Still they insist on using the PC power sockets under desks, the 4 way
sockets mounted on desks even thought the fuses are 3.15A. A few times
it's been the protected sockets on a lab bench as kit is running.
The worst is the damaged data and phone cables because they don't put
the cables back when they push the floorbox lids back on.

>So now I'm going shopping for batteries for the UPS. And I'm having the
>electricians look at the power situation there. So much fun


Good luck, our place had 3 yr old UPS, the manufacturer recommended
replace all batteries during it's upgrade our lot didn't. The
manufacturer said the supply is a bit unbalanced and won't last the max
time.

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