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 05-26-2007
count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

Richard Heathfield
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> count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

Why?

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> count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

You can repost it all you want, we still won't do your homework for
you.

Back in the day, when I was a teaching assistant (Physics), I used to
tell the students, "It's pointless to cheat on homework. Homework is
for you. We only collect and grade it so you'll get feedback on what
you're doing wrong and to give you incentive to actually do the work.
Exams are where we find out what you really know."

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Walter Roberson
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In article <(E-Mail Removed) .com>,
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>count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

The answer may be ill-defined. If a temporary value is used,
the the number of bits required to be altered to set that
temporary to a certain value would depend on what was in
is in automatic storage.

There is also the question of how to count the alteration of bits.
If a particular bit gets altered twice, then is that a count of 2
(two alterations), or a count of 1 (one bit altered) ?

Is the requirement to come up with a formula that expresses the
number of bits required to be altered to swap two values? Or is
the requirement to come up with a program that would count the
bits required to be altered to swap two values that are inputs?
Or are the two values given ahead of time?

What do we know about the types of the two values a and b?
Are they integral types? Are they potentially floating point
numbers? Are they potentially of mixed type, one integral
and one floating point?

What are we to do about the problem that "bits" are a matter
of representation (which is not completely defined in C),
whereas "values" are independant of representation? For example,
the answer might be different if the C implementation happens
to be using two's complement to represent values when the programmer
is expecting one's complement representation instead.
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Barry Schwarz
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On 26 May 2007 09:11:23 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

Posting the same question every hour will not get you more or faster
responses. However, it will increase the number of killfiles that
contain you name.

Posting an obvious homework question while making no attempt to solve
it yourself merely hastens the process.

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Flash Gordon
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> count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

42.7
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Richard Heathfield
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Barry Schwarz said:

> On 26 May 2007 09:11:23 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
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>>count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

>
> Posting the same question every hour will not get you more or faster
> responses. However, it will increase the number of killfiles that
> contain you name.

Indeed. In fact, from over here it's already too late.

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Keith Thompson
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> count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

Give us your instructor's e-mail address so we can submit the solution
directly.

Optionally, you can also give us your name so we can tell your
instructor who should get the "credit".

Or you might just consider doing your own homework.

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pete
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> count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

/* BEGIN new.c */

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

unsigned bit_count(unsigned n);

int main(void)
{

a = rand();
b = rand();
printf("a is %u\nb is %u.\n", a, b);
printf("%u bits would need to be flipped in each object\n"
return 0;
}

unsigned bit_count(unsigned n)
{
unsigned count;

for (count = 0; n != 0; n &= n - 1) {
++count;
}
return count;
}

/* END new.c */

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 05-27-2007
On May 27, 3:52 am, pete <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
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> > count the bits required to be altered while swaping values a and b

>
> /* BEGIN new.c */
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <stdlib.h>
>
> unsigned bit_count(unsigned n);
>
> int main(void)
> {
>
> a = rand();
> b = rand();
> mask = a ^ b;
> printf("a is %u\nb is %u.\n", a, b);
> printf("%u bits would need to be flipped in each object\n"
> "to swap their values.\n", bit_count(mask));
> return 0;
>
> }
>
> unsigned bit_count(unsigned n)
> {
> unsigned count;
>
> for (count = 0; n != 0; n &= n - 1) {
> ++count;
> }
> return count;
>
> }
>
> /* END new.c */
>
> --
> pete

Why you are using unsigned int everywhere?Why count is unsigned?And
why you XOR the inputs?