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>Ken Baggins, we are not discussing about the real world here. We are
>discussing about the MCSE's exams.

lol!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

BASIC TROUBLESHOOTING!!! Divide the problem. If you ping
127.0.0.1 successfully, that ELIMINATES the local box as
a possible problem because that ping does, indeed, tell
you that TCP/IP is correctly installed on that machine
(which was the original question). If successful there,
THEN start pinging to the default gateway and from thence
to the outside world.
>-----Original Message-----
>"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in
message
>news:.. .
>> >Pinging anything will confirm the correct
installation of TCP/IP, if the
>> >pinger recieves replies. I'm not sure what
the "correct" answer is, but I
>> >would have gone with D, the OP's choice, for the same
reason he did. Ping
>> >www.google.com, for example, and if replies are
returned, then all is
>well.
>> >If not, then ping something on your local subnet by
name, and if no
>replies
>> >are returned, ping by IP. If no replies are returned,
ping the gateway.
>If
>> >no replies are returned, ping loopback. Of course, if
at any time in this
>> >testing you recieve replies, you can take a good
guess as to what the
>> >problem is.
>>
>> all very true, however the question only asked
to 'determine if TCP/IP
>> is correctly installed' not whether there is a
physical connection or
>> not.
>>
>
>Another of Microsoft's sillyisms. When would you ever
care if TCP/IP is
>correctly installed, and *not* care about a physical
connection? I know that
>was the question, but it's simply not preparing the test
taker for what
>they'll see in the real world. Or maybe I'm not in the
real world by not
>knowing when I should care about said situation...
>
>--
>
>KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
>first initial last name AT gmail DOT com
>
>
>.
>

I would have to disagree. Even in real life, it is possible to have the
TCP/IP stack installed configured yet not configured.

A. Ping 127.0.0.1
*** Correct Answer. If the stack is installed properly, you should always be
able to ping this.

B. Ping the default gateway
*** There may not be a gateway configure or a device at the address. There
is no way to tell if the stack is not installed correctly or a different
issue

C. Ping the DNS server on the local subnet
Same as B

D. Ping a remote host
Same as B

Just my ¢2


"Gandalf, the White" <> wrote in
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> Ken Baggins, we are not discussing about the real world here. We are
> discussing about the MCSE's exams.
>
> Regards,
> Gandalf
>
>
> "Ken Briscoe" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Another of Microsoft's sillyisms. When would you ever care if TCP/IP is
>> correctly installed, and *not* care about a physical connection? I know
> that
>> was the question, but it's simply not preparing the test taker for what
>> they'll see in the real world. Or maybe I'm not in the real world by not
>> knowing when I should care about said situation...
>>
>> --
>>
>> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>>
>> first initial last name AT gmail DOT com
>>
>>
>
>

>THEN start pinging to the default gateway and from thence
>to the outside world

even from middle earth?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

you sir are a hobbit rapist

"Gandalf, the White" <> wrote in
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> Ken Baggins, we are not discussing about the real world here. We are
> discussing about the MCSE's exams.
>
> Regards,
> Gandalf
>
>
> "Ken Briscoe" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> >
> > Another of Microsoft's sillyisms. When would you ever care if TCP/IP is
> > correctly installed, and *not* care about a physical connection? I know
> that
> > was the question, but it's simply not preparing the test taker for what
> > they'll see in the real world. Or maybe I'm not in the real world by not
> > knowing when I should care about said situation...
> >
> > --
> >
> > KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
> >
> > first initial last name AT gmail DOT com
> >
> >
>
>

"Gandalf, the White" <> wrote in
message news:O9pV$...
> Ken Baggins, we are not discussing about the real world here. We are
> discussing about the MCSE's exams.
>

Back in middle school/junior high, I had a friend who had a Corgy named
Bilbo. At the time, I had no idea what LotR was, so "Bilbo" meant nothing to
me, except it was a word that sounded a lot like "dildo." Not that I'd used
one in middle school, but I did know what one was, and had no clue about
LotR. Weird, maybe, but that's how it was.

--

KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26

first initial last name AT gmail DOT com

no, only from the shire


"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> >THEN start pinging to the default gateway and from thence
> >to the outside world
>
> even from middle earth?
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

So are you saying that those folk in mirkwood have to configure and
use either ipx or netbeui?

>no, only from the shire
>
>
>"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> >THEN start pinging to the default gateway and from thence
>> >to the outside world
>>
>> even from middle earth?
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>


Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Surely not. I am a MS Exam's rapist.

Regards,
Gandalf


"Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:...
> you sir are a hobbit rapist
>
> "Gandalf, the White" <> wrote in
> message news:O9pV$...
> > Ken Baggins, we are not discussing about the real world here. We are
> > discussing about the MCSE's exams.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gandalf
> >
> >
> > "Ken Briscoe" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > >
> > > Another of Microsoft's sillyisms. When would you ever care if TCP/IP
is
> > > correctly installed, and *not* care about a physical connection? I
know
> > that
> > > was the question, but it's simply not preparing the test taker for
what
> > > they'll see in the real world. Or maybe I'm not in the real world by
not
> > > knowing when I should care about said situation...
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
> > >
> > > first initial last name AT gmail DOT com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

no, they are using private non-routable ip's with no NAT, fully isolated.
now the orks are using ipv6, but they are far ahead of the game


"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> So are you saying that those folk in mirkwood have to configure and
> use either ipx or netbeui?
>
> >no, only from the shire
> >
> >
> >"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> >news:.. .
> >> >THEN start pinging to the default gateway and from thence
> >> >to the outside world
> >>
> >> even from middle earth?
> >>
> >> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
> >
>
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3