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Vanguard wrote:
> "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>> No, the slrn mafia always snips.
>
> I believe those persons are called mohels.

Twenty dollars and tips -- same as downtown.

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Eye In The Sky wrote:
> "elaich" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "Eye In The Sky" <ruleman@> wrote in
>> news::
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>>> I counted 39 lines of "code" in your OP while only two of them were
>>> needed. I hope your code writing when programming is more concise
>>>
>>
>> I counted more than 50 lines of unneeded quoted text before your 2
>> line reply. I wish you stupid ass Outhouse Express users would learn
>> proper Usenet etiquette.
>
> Necessary to quote entire OP to document/emphasize my point.
>
> Curious though about your jab at my newsreader. I'm wondering---
> perhaps you're one of those wannabe elitists who like to pay for
> things he can get for free? So then maybe you need to rationalize that
> choice by trying to convince yourself the paid model is somehow
> better? While those who use a free and fully functional version are
> somehow slugs and lowlifes?

Unless he's one of us who look down on Outlook Express and who use
better FREE news clients. There are plenty of those readily available,
which seems a surprisingly big secret for most OEheads.


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"Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
news: ...
> Eye In The Sky wrote:
>> "elaich" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> "Eye In The Sky" <ruleman@> wrote in
>>> news::
>

> Unless he's one of us who look down on Outlook Express and who use
> better FREE news clients. There are plenty of those readily available,
> which seems a surprisingly big secret for most OEheads.
>

Care to share the names one or two?

"Eye In The Sky" <ruleman@> wrote:

>
>"Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message

>> Unless he's one of us who look down on Outlook Express and who use
>> better FREE news clients. There are plenty of those readily available,
>> which seems a surprisingly big secret for most OEheads.


>Care to share the names one or two?

Xnews http://www.slyck.com/xnews.php



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Eye In The Sky wrote:
>
> "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>> Eye In The Sky wrote:
>>> "elaich" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> "Eye In The Sky" <ruleman@> wrote in
>>>> news::
>
>> Unless he's one of us who look down on Outlook Express and who use
>> better FREE news clients. There are plenty of those readily available,
>> which seems a surprisingly big secret for most OEheads.
>
> Care to share the names one or two?

Pure Windows (i.e., no ports ot other operating systems): Xnews, Dialog,
Thunderbird, XPN, for a start. Google will find them.
news.readers.software is an excellent group for advice and help with
news clients other than IE (and Thunderbird, which has a dedicated
support group on the mozilla.org news server).


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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Eye In The Sky wrote:
>>
>> "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
>> news: ...
>>> Eye In The Sky wrote:
>>>> "elaich" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> "Eye In The Sky" <ruleman@> wrote in
>>>>> news::
>>
>>> Unless he's one of us who look down on Outlook Express and who use
>>> better FREE news clients. There are plenty of those readily available,
>>> which seems a surprisingly big secret for most OEheads.
>>
>> Care to share the names one or two?
>
> Pure Windows (i.e., no ports ot other operating systems): Xnews, Dialog,
> Thunderbird, XPN, for a start. Google will find them.
> news.readers.software is an excellent group for advice and help with
> news clients other than IE (and Thunderbird, which has a dedicated
> support group on the mozilla.org news server).

CORRECTION: My silly bad. XPN is a Linux app and Thunderbird isn't
limited to Windows. Been a long day. Anyway, of the three above (the
four I mentioned minus XPN), I listed them in order from best to least
best, IMO. Frankly, I only recommend Thunderbird over OE, but since
you're using OE I included here as relevant.


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Eye In The Sky wrote:
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> "Blinky the Shark" <> wrote in message
> news: ...
>> Eye In The Sky wrote:
>>> "elaich" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> "Eye In The Sky" <ruleman@> wrote in
>>>> news::
>>
>
>> Unless he's one of us who look down on Outlook Express and who use
>> better FREE news clients. There are plenty of those readily
>> available, which seems a surprisingly big secret for most OEheads.
>>
> Care to share the names one or two?

I just answered in another post, poorly, and had to reply to *that*
reply to correct my first. Please read both of those for your answer.


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Knut Arvid Keilen wrote:
> Some 10 to 20 years ago I was doing quite a deal of Basic and Pascal (and a
> little Modula-2) programming using some books, printouts and a
> small personal computer that was not up to the standard.
>
> I started up with Borland International's Turbo Pascal Reference Manual
> version 2.0 for MS-DOS using 3.5 inch floppy disks
> (which were probably single sided and maybe not IBM-style formatted like
> today).
>
> The operating system was either MS-DOS 2.0 or the then popular MS-DOS 2.11
> version.
>
> A little later on I was using an IBM PC AT computer having a 20 MB hard
> drive. The operating system was MS-DOS 5.0 or 6.0 at best.
> I was able to retrieve a program from that time with the name of gw.bat (or
> rather GWBASIC.exe) which was DOS-based.
>
> Also there were the QBasic program which came with MS-DOS 5.0 or 6.0. There
> were three Basic demo programs included there which I do not have anymore.
>
> The only thing I have left from that time is the Borland International
> Reference Manual version 2.0 . All the other things have been discarded, but
> I had much fun that time.
>
> When at High School I got in touch with C++ (In Unix there is instead C in
> use, at least).
>
> At that time, I guessed there were some different makers of C++, including
> Microsoft Corporation, Borland International and also Symantec Corporation.
>
> Today, when running Windows XP Home Edition / Windows XP Professional or the
> like on a Pentium 4 based machine or the similar,
> I would have like to have an (intelligent) editor for writing the programs
> and also modules (based either in RAM-memory or reading / writing to or from
> disk)
> for compiling, linking, debugging and all those things that are necessary.
> Unfortunately this sometimes gets a little complicated, either because of
> lack of knowledge (books / manuals),
> lack of money to buy the necessary equipment and software and therefore lack
> of the resources needed to do all these things.
>
> I'll skip Java for my needed use, because I have most of it already (at
> least downloaded, but not always installed). Also I find it a little
> difficult to do Java programming.
>
> Some programming software are stand-alone products, some other are bundled.
> I would like to know where to get C++ (or better) programming software for
> my use.
>
> Thanks !
>
>
If you qualify as a student you can get Visual Studio which has C++ and
Visual Basic for around a hundred dollars in the educational version. It
also has C and some Microsoft Java Compatible program. There is a free
C++ called developmental C++ which you can download and there are
actually quite a few free programming programs that you can download if
you search for them. There is some open source free programs such as
Redhat and Boreland which makes Assemply Language free if you fill out a
form. There is one called Python which someone was developing then
abandoned so it became freeware. And you can get QBasic and all sorts of
similar programs like GWBasic as free downloads. There is a Dos Version
of Visual Basic which was available free and which I used to compile
Qbasic programs.