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Old 07-27-2004, 10:35 AM   #1
Default Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read


This has probably been said many times, but people just don't seem to get
the point! And although I've been posting on this NG for only few weeks its
beginning to annoy me seeing people (such as Sathir Puchnabe, Maria Zapatta)
post 'I passed my exam thanks to Testking' or 'I'm taking the exam soon,
does anyone know if Transcender have a paper on it?'!

If you use Testking or Transcender or any other software/study
guides/braindumps that give you the actual test questions and answers then
YOU ARE CHEATING, you are obtaining your qualification illegally, you might
as well use one of those dodgy internet diplomas!

If everyone cheated and took the exams, then we'd have millions of
MCPs/MCSAs & MCSEs wandering around who don't know sh*t. It would mean that
those of us who really studied and took the exam legally would have our
certification degraded to the point where it became pointless. I'm only an
MCP now, but I'm working towards MCSA, then MCSE, and I want to know that in
the end it's going to be worth all the effort!

Secondly if you become an MCSE through cheating, and you don't really know
what your talking about, and then get a job based on that qualification,
then what happens when a real problem arises in your job, and you have no
idea how to sort it? Testking won't be able to help you then will they!? And
you'll look like a real pro in front of your new boss and fellow MCSE team,
won't you!

If you really want that MCP/MCSE qualification WORK for it, study the
literature, work with the OS to gain experiance, above all, remember
TestKing/Transcender is NO help to you, you might think it is when you pass
the exam, but in reality it is just giving you a false qualification, and
you'll fall flat on your face sometime in the future!

And in the end I think its much more satisfying to achive something (whether
its an MCP qualification or anything else in life) knowing you did it
through hard work, and not by cheating!

Lastly, if you are going to cheat, don't post to this newsgroup, or any
other microsoft newgroup for that matter, telling everyone about it!

--
Ben

IT Professional, MCP 70-210
"On my way to becoming fully certifiable!"





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Old 07-27-2004, 10:55 AM   #2
R
 
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Default Re: Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read
Transcenders are NOT braindumps/real exams. I DO agree with you re. others
such as testking.

"Ben Blackmore" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This has probably been said many times, but people just don't seem to get
> the point! And although I've been posting on this NG for only few weeks

its
> beginning to annoy me seeing people (such as Sathir Puchnabe, Maria

Zapatta)
> post 'I passed my exam thanks to Testking' or 'I'm taking the exam soon,
> does anyone know if Transcender have a paper on it?'!
>
> If you use Testking or Transcender or any other software/study
> guides/braindumps that give you the actual test questions and answers then
> YOU ARE CHEATING, you are obtaining your qualification illegally, you

might
> as well use one of those dodgy internet diplomas!
>
> If everyone cheated and took the exams, then we'd have millions of
> MCPs/MCSAs & MCSEs wandering around who don't know sh*t. It would mean

that
> those of us who really studied and took the exam legally would have our
> certification degraded to the point where it became pointless. I'm only an
> MCP now, but I'm working towards MCSA, then MCSE, and I want to know that

in
> the end it's going to be worth all the effort!
>
> Secondly if you become an MCSE through cheating, and you don't really know
> what your talking about, and then get a job based on that qualification,
> then what happens when a real problem arises in your job, and you have no
> idea how to sort it? Testking won't be able to help you then will they!?

And
> you'll look like a real pro in front of your new boss and fellow MCSE

team,
> won't you!
>
> If you really want that MCP/MCSE qualification WORK for it, study the
> literature, work with the OS to gain experiance, above all, remember
> TestKing/Transcender is NO help to you, you might think it is when you

pass
> the exam, but in reality it is just giving you a false qualification, and
> you'll fall flat on your face sometime in the future!
>
> And in the end I think its much more satisfying to achive something

(whether
> its an MCP qualification or anything else in life) knowing you did it
> through hard work, and not by cheating!
>
> Lastly, if you are going to cheat, don't post to this newsgroup, or any
> other microsoft newgroup for that matter, telling everyone about it!
>
> --
> Ben
>
> IT Professional, MCP 70-210
> "On my way to becoming fully certifiable!"
>
>
>





R
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:12 AM   #3
Ben Blackmore
 
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Default Troytech as well!
Aren't they? I've not actually seen them but I was under the impression they
had some of the exam questions at the back. If not my mistake!

Another big one I missed was Troytech which is a braindump!


"R" <> wrote in message
news:%23YAAp$...
> Transcenders are NOT braindumps/real exams. I DO agree with you re. others
> such as testking.
>
> "Ben Blackmore" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > This has probably been said many times, but people just don't seem to

get
> > the point! And although I've been posting on this NG for only few weeks

> its
> > beginning to annoy me seeing people (such as Sathir Puchnabe, Maria

> Zapatta)
> > post 'I passed my exam thanks to Testking' or 'I'm taking the exam soon,
> > does anyone know if Transcender have a paper on it?'!
> >
> > If you use Testking or Transcender or any other software/study
> > guides/braindumps that give you the actual test questions and answers

then
> > YOU ARE CHEATING, you are obtaining your qualification illegally, you

> might
> > as well use one of those dodgy internet diplomas!
> >
> > If everyone cheated and took the exams, then we'd have millions of
> > MCPs/MCSAs & MCSEs wandering around who don't know sh*t. It would mean

> that
> > those of us who really studied and took the exam legally would have our
> > certification degraded to the point where it became pointless. I'm only

an
> > MCP now, but I'm working towards MCSA, then MCSE, and I want to know

that
> in
> > the end it's going to be worth all the effort!
> >
> > Secondly if you become an MCSE through cheating, and you don't really

know
> > what your talking about, and then get a job based on that qualification,
> > then what happens when a real problem arises in your job, and you have

no
> > idea how to sort it? Testking won't be able to help you then will they!?

> And
> > you'll look like a real pro in front of your new boss and fellow MCSE

> team,
> > won't you!
> >
> > If you really want that MCP/MCSE qualification WORK for it, study the
> > literature, work with the OS to gain experiance, above all, remember
> > TestKing/Transcender is NO help to you, you might think it is when you

> pass
> > the exam, but in reality it is just giving you a false qualification,

and
> > you'll fall flat on your face sometime in the future!
> >
> > And in the end I think its much more satisfying to achive something

> (whether
> > its an MCP qualification or anything else in life) knowing you did it
> > through hard work, and not by cheating!
> >
> > Lastly, if you are going to cheat, don't post to this newsgroup, or any
> > other microsoft newgroup for that matter, telling everyone about it!
> >
> > --
> > Ben
> >
> > IT Professional, MCP 70-210
> > "On my way to becoming fully certifiable!"
> >
> >
> >

>
>





Ben Blackmore
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:24 AM   #4
chun wong
 
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Default Re: Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read
I got a colleague who passed MCSE 7 papers after completed a MCSE course. He
knows nothing about networking, server, AD, etc..... and his salary is as
same as me.

got another friend, he knew nothing about computer world when we were at
Uni, after graduated he can't find a job, instead he did a MCSE course,
later he found a job at bloody german bank and taught me what paper MCSE is
.... @_@!

So, I did MCSE 2000, I found it is absoultely useless. most of the question
you would never used it on your real life.... e.g where is the log file
location.

My boss is a bloody greedy IT consultant. he asked me why I am bothered to
take this exam... he said no need to take.... he doesn't trust the people
with MCSE..... hahaha ^____^!


now I m doing MCSE2003..... I think really it is bloody **** again.....

Reason why doing MCSE 2003.. coz need more income and a tilte in my card....












"Ben Blackmore" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This has probably been said many times, but people just don't seem to get
> the point! And although I've been posting on this NG for only few weeks

its
> beginning to annoy me seeing people (such as Sathir Puchnabe, Maria

Zapatta)
> post 'I passed my exam thanks to Testking' or 'I'm taking the exam soon,
> does anyone know if Transcender have a paper on it?'!
>
> If you use Testking or Transcender or any other software/study
> guides/braindumps that give you the actual test questions and answers then
> YOU ARE CHEATING, you are obtaining your qualification illegally, you

might
> as well use one of those dodgy internet diplomas!
>
> If everyone cheated and took the exams, then we'd have millions of
> MCPs/MCSAs & MCSEs wandering around who don't know sh*t. It would mean

that
> those of us who really studied and took the exam legally would have our
> certification degraded to the point where it became pointless. I'm only an
> MCP now, but I'm working towards MCSA, then MCSE, and I want to know that

in
> the end it's going to be worth all the effort!
>
> Secondly if you become an MCSE through cheating, and you don't really know
> what your talking about, and then get a job based on that qualification,
> then what happens when a real problem arises in your job, and you have no
> idea how to sort it? Testking won't be able to help you then will they!?

And
> you'll look like a real pro in front of your new boss and fellow MCSE

team,
> won't you!
>
> If you really want that MCP/MCSE qualification WORK for it, study the
> literature, work with the OS to gain experiance, above all, remember
> TestKing/Transcender is NO help to you, you might think it is when you

pass
> the exam, but in reality it is just giving you a false qualification, and
> you'll fall flat on your face sometime in the future!
>
> And in the end I think its much more satisfying to achive something

(whether
> its an MCP qualification or anything else in life) knowing you did it
> through hard work, and not by cheating!
>
> Lastly, if you are going to cheat, don't post to this newsgroup, or any
> other microsoft newgroup for that matter, telling everyone about it!
>
> --
> Ben
>
> IT Professional, MCP 70-210
> "On my way to becoming fully certifiable!"
>
>
>





chun wong
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:24 AM   #5
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere
 
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Default Re: Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read
>Transcenders are NOT braindumps/real exams.

to me, there's not a great deal of difference. I've seen comments from
people, spoken to people, who have used transcenders and said that
some of the questions/case studies were all but the same as the real
exams. That may be a just down to the problems with the format of the
exams, but it's still just plain wrong.

Anyway, I feel that if people need those type of products, I question,
at worst their ability, at best, their confidence in themselves. May
be use them at the them end of your studies but in place of those
studies.

In any case the cert process needs to change so that real world
knowledge comes more into play. For someone to be 'certified' surely
should mean they actual have real world experience of the products?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3


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Old 07-27-2004, 11:25 AM   #6
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere
 
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Default Re: Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read
>Lastly, if you are going to cheat, don't post to this newsgroup, or any
>other microsoft newgroup for that matter, telling everyone about it!


no, they should do - it's great fun!!!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3


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Old 07-27-2004, 11:39 AM   #7
Ben Blackmore
 
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Default Re: Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read
"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> >Lastly, if you are going to cheat, don't post to this newsgroup, or any
> >other microsoft newgroup for that matter, telling everyone about it!

>
> no, they should do - it's great fun!!!
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3


Heh, well yeah there is that I guess, a good troll bashing always brightens
the day!

I just find it frustrating to hear someone say 'i've never touched a pc and
don't know what windows is, but i still passed my exam thanks to testking
and troytec'

I've worked with PCs for 7 years, I started by doing an apprenticeship where
I got paid **** and given all the sh*tty jobs to do, along with this I did a
2 year collage course, worked my ass off! Over the years I've gained
experience by starting at the bottom and moving up from apprentice/lackey,
to junior to engineer, working for different companies. And to hear that
someone with NO experience what so ever can just walk in and pass an exam by
cheating, and end up with the same qualification as me is very frustrating!
--
Ben

IT Professional, MCP 70-210
"On my way to becoming fully certifiable!"




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Old 07-27-2004, 11:39 AM   #8
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere
 
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Default Re: Troytech as well!
>Another big one I missed was Troytech which is a braindump!

don't forget wong, cobol and chums.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3


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Old 07-27-2004, 11:42 AM   #9
R
 
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Default Re: Testking & Transcender - Exam Takers Please Read
I agree that practice exams (not braindumps) such as Transcender / Self-Test
/ Measure-Up should only be used at the end of the studies, just to get you
in the right frame of mind for taking the exam. That is the way I have
approached the 15 exams I have taken over the last 5 years.

R - MCSE (2003, 2000, NT), MCSA (2003, 200), MCDBA (SQL2000)

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> >Transcenders are NOT braindumps/real exams.

>
> to me, there's not a great deal of difference. I've seen comments from
> people, spoken to people, who have used transcenders and said that
> some of the questions/case studies were all but the same as the real
> exams. That may be a just down to the problems with the format of the
> exams, but it's still just plain wrong.
>
> Anyway, I feel that if people need those type of products, I question,
> at worst their ability, at best, their confidence in themselves. May
> be use them at the them end of your studies but in place of those
> studies.
>
> In any case the cert process needs to change so that real world
> knowledge comes more into play. For someone to be 'certified' surely
> should mean they actual have real world experience of the products?
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3





R
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:41 PM   #10
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Default Re: Troytech as well!
Ben Blackmore wrote:
> Aren't they? I've not actually seen them but I was under the
> impression they had some of the exam questions at the back. If not my
> mistake!
>
> Another big one I missed was Troytech which is a braindump!


Based on a conversation I had in microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcad, I now tend
to believe that Exam Crams are also br@indumps I suspected they were, but
didn't know for sure. Someone who used them confirmed that they do indeed
have actual test questions, but like Testking et. al., they're loaded with
incorrect answers. BTW, please use my munged version of the bad word, as
we've also discovered a while back that some web sites that do newsgroup
feeds have been using that naughty word to allow certain less-than-honorable
vendors to link to their a s s f u c k i n g web sites.

--
Fris "Exam Cram it up your ..." bee®, MCNGP #13

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http://www.mcngp.tk

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