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Old 06-08-2004, 02:07 AM   #1
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or better yet - if you deployed the bugger and got hands on experience -

what do you think my chances are of getting sharepoint to work with GSNW?
i.e. the user's home directories are being stored on a netware file & print
server?

"why make it simple - when you can complicate it beyond belief"



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Old 06-08-2004, 03:49 AM   #2
Laura A. Robinson
 
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circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:07:53 -0700, in
microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Rowdy Yates (rowdy_yates2
@remove.lycos.com) said,
>
> or better yet - if you deployed the bugger and got hands on experience -
>
> what do you think my chances are of getting sharepoint to work with GSNW?
> i.e. the user's home directories are being stored on a netware file & print
> server?


Which version? SPS? Free SP?

> "why make it simple - when you can complicate it beyond belief"


I see you've read my employer's development handbook.

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Old 06-08-2004, 12:05 PM   #3
Rowdy Yates
 
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Laura A. Robinson <> wrote in
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> circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 18:07:53 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse, Rowdy Yates (rowdy_yates2
> @remove.lycos.com) said,
>>
>> or better yet - if you deployed the bugger and got hands on
>> experience -
>>
>> what do you think my chances are of getting sharepoint to work with
>> GSNW? i.e. the user's home directories are being stored on a netware
>> file & print server?

>
> Which version? SPS? Free SP?
>
>> "why make it simple - when you can complicate it beyond belief"

>
> I see you've read my employer's development handbook.
>
> Laura


SPS 2003. the free one that MS are giving away for 2003 srv users.

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Old 06-08-2004, 02:28 PM   #4
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> SPS 2003. the free one that MS are giving away for 2003 srv users.

It has to run on a 2003 server and you can use the MSDE for storage. The
files on your Netware boxes will not be stored there. Once you put them into
sharepoint, they live in the database. I suppose you can leave the files on
your Netware boxes and use the search to crawl them but then you are really
not using Sharepoint at that point. The whole thing is designed around
collaboration and to do that most effectively you should put them in the
system. (And have Office 2003 while your at it.)







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Old 06-08-2004, 02:50 PM   #5
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"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>> SPS 2003. the free one that MS are giving away for 2003 srv users.

>
> It has to run on a 2003 server and you can use the MSDE for storage.
> The files on your Netware boxes will not be stored there. Once you put
> them into sharepoint, they live in the database. I suppose you can
> leave the files on your Netware boxes and use the search to crawl them
> but then you are really not using Sharepoint at that point. The whole
> thing is designed around collaboration and to do that most effectively
> you should put them in the system. (And have Office 2003 while your
> at it.)


thanks for that great post Jtyc.

i got sharepoint 2003 running on 2003 srv and there is a mix of office 2002
and 2003 in the environment.

my head scratcher is, can i (or how to i) give the users access to their
home foldes when they are logging into sharepoint from home?


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Old 06-08-2004, 03:19 PM   #6
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> my head scratcher is, can i (or how to i) give the users access to their
> home foldes when they are logging into sharepoint from home?


Through an external sharepoint services site? I don't know that you can.
I'm not too familiar with Netware but I'm guessing their home folders are
not using Active Directory for authentication. If you had Portal Server
running with the Single Sign-on service, perhaps there might be a method to
pass credentials and then maybe use the search to crawl their folders. That
seems a bit sloppy though.






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Old 06-09-2004, 04:23 AM   #7
Rowdy Yates
 
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"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>> my head scratcher is, can i (or how to i) give the users access to
>> their home foldes when they are logging into sharepoint from home?

>
> Through an external sharepoint services site? I don't know that you
> can. I'm not too familiar with Netware but I'm guessing their home
> folders are not using Active Directory for authentication. If you had
> Portal Server running with the Single Sign-on service, perhaps there
> might be a method to pass credentials and then maybe use the search to
> crawl their folders. That seems a bit sloppy though.


i was thinking of setting up the sharepoint box with GSNW to the netware
volume. then map drive letters to users individual home folders (there will
only be about 10 - 15 users in the test phase - so i shouldn't run out of
letters)

and try to find a way to allow users access to their respective drive
letters. i don't know if the product works that way.

my main goal is reduction of data duplicaion.

when you guys implement it with AD, do the users have access to their home
folders automatically when they authenticate via AD user account or do the
users still have to put the files they want to colaborate with into the
sharepoint doc. library manually?



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Old 06-09-2004, 12:54 PM   #8
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Rowdy Yates <> wrote in
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> "Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news::
>
>>> my head scratcher is, can i (or how to i) give the users access to
>>> their home foldes when they are logging into sharepoint from home?

>>
>> Through an external sharepoint services site? I don't know that you
>> can. I'm not too familiar with Netware but I'm guessing their home
>> folders are not using Active Directory for authentication. If you
>> had Portal Server running with the Single Sign-on service, perhaps
>> there might be a method to pass credentials and then maybe use the
>> search to crawl their folders. That seems a bit sloppy though.

>
> i was thinking of setting up the sharepoint box with GSNW to the
> netware volume. then map drive letters to users individual home
> folders (there will only be about 10 - 15 users in the test phase - so
> i shouldn't run out of letters)
>
> and try to find a way to allow users access to their respective drive
> letters. i don't know if the product works that way.
>
> my main goal is reduction of data duplicaion.
>
> when you guys implement it with AD, do the users have access to their
> home folders automatically when they authenticate via AD user account
> or do the users still have to put the files they want to colaborate
> with into the sharepoint doc. library manually?
>
>
>
> Rowdy Yates, MCSE


I think you might have to look at Identity server for the outside
authentication

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...ectory/miis/de
fault.mspx or http://tinyurl.com/kdf6

we have a Sharepoint project set to begin in about 2 months, but no
Netware. My opinion of GSNW is not great. We are looking at the
integration of PeopleSoft data as well and will likely have to look at
MIIS and Biztalk to make it work...

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Old 06-09-2004, 02:56 PM   #9
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Neil <> wrote in
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> I think you might have to look at Identity server for the outside
> authentication
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...ectory/miis/de
> fault.mspx or http://tinyurl.com/kdf6
>
> we have a Sharepoint project set to begin in about 2 months, but no
> Netware. My opinion of GSNW is not great. We are looking at the
> integration of PeopleSoft data as well and will likely have to look at
> MIIS and Biztalk to make it work...


ouch! i didn't see that one coming.




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Old 06-09-2004, 03:04 PM   #10
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Rowdy Yates <> wrote in
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> ouch! i didn't see that one coming.


p.s. have you checked the cost of MIIS2003?



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