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Vista are designed for people who can write their own driver.

 
 
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      02-23-2007
This is a technical challange that microsoft came up with. Bill gate decide
that if to design an Os to give people some challenge to search for driver
just like RPG game, looking for clue. What a world had turned into..
 
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Theo
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      02-23-2007
Microsoft is not responsible for the drivers of other
companies hardware!

You should be addressing this type of complaint to the
hardware companies, not Microsoft!

canixs wrote:
> This is a technical challange that microsoft came up with. Bill gate decide
> that if to design an Os to give people some challenge to search for driver
> just like RPG game, looking for clue. What a world had turned into..

 
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Cari \(MS-MVP\)
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      02-23-2007
Which driver(s) are you looking for?
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"canixs" <> wrote in message
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> This is a technical challange that microsoft came up with. Bill gate
> decide
> that if to design an Os to give people some challenge to search for driver
> just like RPG game, looking for clue. What a world had turned into..


 
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canixs
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      02-23-2007
I am desperately looking for conexant 64bit audio driver with ati
southbridge chipset for my gateway 7510gx. Even a driver will only produce
mono sound will be fine by me.... that desperate..

"Cari (MS-MVP)" <> wrote in message
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> Which driver(s) are you looking for?
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> Cari (MS-MVP)
> Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
> http://www.coribright.com/windows
>
> "canixs" <> wrote in message
> news:E3FCABCE-064C-4382-AA83-...
>> This is a technical challange that microsoft came up with. Bill gate
>> decide
>> that if to design an Os to give people some challenge to search for
>> driver
>> just like RPG game, looking for clue. What a world had turned into..

>


 
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Dennis Pack
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      02-23-2007
Canixs:
You are just one among many needing signed x64 drivers for the
Conexant 20468-31 chipset used on many laptop computers. The only avenue for
us is to continually question the manufacturers to when the drivers will be
available. Have a great day.

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XP x64, Vista Enterprise x64
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"canixs" <> wrote in message
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>I am desperately looking for conexant 64bit audio driver with ati
>southbridge chipset for my gateway 7510gx. Even a driver will only produce
>mono sound will be fine by me.... that desperate..
>
> "Cari (MS-MVP)" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Which driver(s) are you looking for?
>> --
>> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
>> http://www.coribright.com/windows
>>
>> "canixs" <> wrote in message
>> news:E3FCABCE-064C-4382-AA83-...
>>> This is a technical challange that microsoft came up with. Bill gate
>>> decide
>>> that if to design an Os to give people some challenge to search for
>>> driver
>>> just like RPG game, looking for clue. What a world had turned into..

>>

>


 
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      02-24-2007
Bill Gates is getting richer by the second on our problems. No 64-bit
drivers/patches but 64-bit Windows? I wish I had known that before I bought
it. It doesn't matter whose fault it is, Microsoft or the hardware/software
manufacturers . . . it's the little people who have to suck it in. We've
been snookered . . . again.
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"canixs" wrote:

> This is a technical challange that microsoft came up with. Bill gate decide
> that if to design an Os to give people some challenge to search for driver
> just like RPG game, looking for clue. What a world had turned into..

 
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BSchnur
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      02-24-2007
Denise, the trick with major new OS releases is research and no small
amount of skepticism -- before the sale.

With 64 bit Windows there was enough of a history of driver issues --
it is one of the things which very much sidetracked XP64 into a
specialty OS rather than the OS of choice (instead of XP 32).

In the right setting, a 64 bit OS pays off and can be made to do things
that are more difficult in 32 bit. (As a server OS, given the memory
needs of Windows servers in larger settings, the 64 bit OS pays off big
time -- again as long as the hardware driver support exists).

My own view is that Vista 64 will have significantly better driver and
application support than XP 64, and this will result in Vista 64
gaining a larger piece of the Microsoft OS market -- *eventually*.

For now, 'the little people' are most probably better served by Vista
32 -- recognizing that even with Vista 32 there are driver issues that
remain to be solved (and I'd guess with a much shorter resolution time
frame than with Vista 64).

The other thing that folks ought to be aware of, based on well over a
decade of Windows release history, is that the first release of a new
OS is often close to the mark, but not quite on target.

Examples (my opinion here others may differ)

Windows 95 -- cool -- but Windows 95 OSR2 was much better.

Windows 98 -- cool -- but Windows 98 SE was much better

Windows 2000 -- excellent -- *especially once SP3 was out*

Windows ME -- well not all Windows is good windows.

Windows XP -- cool -- but XP2 made a REAL difference.

I'm not an early 'deployer' -- that is I run the new OS on some
systems, but certainly don't push a new OS on my client base. If they
ask, I present my view of the plusses and minuses -- and then when they
make an informed choice, do my best to support that.


By the way, this 'update-itis' is not unique to Microsoft and Windows.

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      02-24-2007
Microsoft as much as said "here's an operating system but you won't be able
to do much with it because I'm leaving it up to everyone else to update their
hardware and software." Microsoft didn't do that with 95, 98, ME, 2000 Home,
2000XP. It was a smooth transition from one release to the next. People who
are computer knowledgable might have known of the incompatibility that never
existed before but most people didn't, as demonstrated by the number of angry
posts about the os. I have a new HP All-in-One printer. Before it was
purchased, I contacted HP Tech Support and asked if it would be compatible
with X64. I was told that it was but it isn't. I lost it's faxing
capability and HP obnoxiously and clearly states that on their update
website. My 3-month old all-in-one printer no longer in their product line.
They reduced the price before Christmas to make it very alluring then dropped
it like a hot potatoe because they knew that it wasn't compatible with X64.
Snookered.

Denise
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"BSchnur" wrote:

> Denise, the trick with major new OS releases is research and no small
> amount of skepticism -- before the sale.
>
> With 64 bit Windows there was enough of a history of driver issues --
> it is one of the things which very much sidetracked XP64 into a
> specialty OS rather than the OS of choice (instead of XP 32).
>
> In the right setting, a 64 bit OS pays off and can be made to do things
> that are more difficult in 32 bit. (As a server OS, given the memory
> needs of Windows servers in larger settings, the 64 bit OS pays off big
> time -- again as long as the hardware driver support exists).
>
> My own view is that Vista 64 will have significantly better driver and
> application support than XP 64, and this will result in Vista 64
> gaining a larger piece of the Microsoft OS market -- *eventually*.
>
> For now, 'the little people' are most probably better served by Vista
> 32 -- recognizing that even with Vista 32 there are driver issues that
> remain to be solved (and I'd guess with a much shorter resolution time
> frame than with Vista 64).
>
> The other thing that folks ought to be aware of, based on well over a
> decade of Windows release history, is that the first release of a new
> OS is often close to the mark, but not quite on target.
>
> Examples (my opinion here others may differ)
>
> Windows 95 -- cool -- but Windows 95 OSR2 was much better.
>
> Windows 98 -- cool -- but Windows 98 SE was much better
>
> Windows 2000 -- excellent -- *especially once SP3 was out*
>
> Windows ME -- well not all Windows is good windows.
>
> Windows XP -- cool -- but XP2 made a REAL difference.
>
> I'm not an early 'deployer' -- that is I run the new OS on some
> systems, but certainly don't push a new OS on my client base. If they
> ask, I present my view of the plusses and minuses -- and then when they
> make an informed choice, do my best to support that.
>
>
> By the way, this 'update-itis' is not unique to Microsoft and Windows.
>
> --
> Barry Schnur
>

 
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BSchnur
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      02-25-2007
> hardware and software." Microsoft didn't do that with 95, 98, ME, 2000 Home,
> 2000XP.


But they did and it wasn't a smooth transition. By the time the
'second cuts' of those OS's were out, driver support was quite good.
About the only exception has been XP 64.

I'm not saying Microsoft is blameless here -- rather it is a collective
accountability, Microsoft, hardware (and software) vendors, AND
consumers.

I support, build and sell systems for my client base. So for me it is
a case of been there done that.


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      02-25-2007
I never had a problem with the transition between 95, 98 and 2000 XP Pro. If
it was the second cut, as you said, they must've come out with it pretty
fast. Now all they do is blame the other guy for it, and some people blame
the people who bought the operating system which, I would like to add, came
with no warning that it was incompatible with a lot of hardware and software.
If it was a baby car seat or just about most other products that had
defects, the item would have been recalled at once. Microsoft gets away with
this kind of thing because they have the bucks to back them up and the good
ole USA is looking the other way instead of getting involved.

I guess I can say that I've been there and done that now too.

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~ If you don''t know where you came from, you won''t know where you''re going.


"BSchnur" wrote:

> > hardware and software." Microsoft didn't do that with 95, 98, ME, 2000 Home,
> > 2000XP.

>
> But they did and it wasn't a smooth transition. By the time the
> 'second cuts' of those OS's were out, driver support was quite good.
> About the only exception has been XP 64.
>
> I'm not saying Microsoft is blameless here -- rather it is a collective
> accountability, Microsoft, hardware (and software) vendors, AND
> consumers.
>
> I support, build and sell systems for my client base. So for me it is
> a case of been there done that.
>
>
> --
> Barry Schnur
>

 
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