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Old 05-11-2004, 01:02 PM   #1
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=?Utf-8?B?TWFyayBbTVNd?= <> wrote in
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> Hi, Ive just passed my 70-215 today, to my delight mark of 835 .
> Recently ive also sat my 70-210, Cisco CCNA and Network+. Which exam
> would be best for me to do next? I plan to do both MCSA and MCSE....
> Ive heard that 70-216 was hard but as i done my CCNA at nights in a
> classroom ive got a good understanding of network protocols and have
> no problems with subnetting etc...
>
> Any ideas anybody? Thanks in advance for the feedback...
>
> Mark...
>


start by building a large circle out of paper. divide the circle into pie
shaped sections. write the name or number of the exams in the pieces and
then create an arrow that you can use as a spinner (it will need to be
attached in the center of the circle but able to spin pointing to all
areas of the cirlce).

Now it time to play

WHEEL ......

OF....

_EXAMS!!!!!!!

(cripes, write the one you're ready for...)

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Old 05-11-2004, 09:34 PM   #2
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What you're talking about here is call "proactive
facilitation" in learning theory. It's the opposite
of "retroactive inhibition".

217 is more focused that 216. The content of 217 is
included in 216. So it makes sense to me to do 217 before
216.

What do you think?


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Old 05-11-2004, 09:35 PM   #3
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=?Utf-8?B?TWFyayBbTVNd?= <> wrote in
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> Although the wheel sounds like a good game Neil, im not sure..


oh, come on! it'll be fun...

>
> What i really wanted to know was would one of the exams build you up
> towards the next one. i.e. Would 217 strengthen me for 216 or vice
> versa. I am only 20 so i dont have a massive amount of experience but
> i have been working on most of this stuff within MS for the previous
> year...


google for it buddy. most people will tell you that the 216 exam is a
kick in the crotch. real painful unless you know your networking inside
out. I personally think all MS exams are just plain fun...

>
> Thanks for the feedback guys!
>


yer welcome...

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Old 05-12-2004, 08:16 AM   #4
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I would tend to agree with you a little Neil, i only have little/none experience in Administring a Server environment, but there is none of these exams where a read at the MSPress book + Exam Cram wouldnt carry you over... Its a shame thats how it is...

Im just playing the game coz whenever i finish Uni, I WANT TO GET PAID!!

Thank
Mark


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Old 05-12-2004, 12:27 PM   #5
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=?Utf-8?B?TWFyayBbTVNd?= <> wrote in
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> Im just playing the game coz whenever i finish Uni, I WANT TO GET PAID!!!


wow, big mistake. there's no money in this industry right now. unless your
boss has already said "if you pass your cert you get $$" I wouldn't hold my
breath....

IMHO

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Old 05-12-2004, 01:43 PM   #6
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ok here goes...

210 --> 215
216 --> 221
217 --> 219
210, 215, 216, 217 --> 218

216 and 217 are BARELY and vaguely related... 216 is about network
infrastructure whereas 217 is all about active directory. These are 2 very
different subjects and that may share an objective or 2 but not many and not
enough to base one exam over the other. As mentioned by Neil in a later
post in this thread, 216 is the bitch/beast/ball breaker... 217 is a walk in
the park in comparison.

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"Mark [MS]" <> wrote in message
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> Although the wheel sounds like a good game Neil, im not sure..
>
> What i really wanted to know was would one of the exams build you up

towards the next one. i.e. Would 217 strengthen me for 216 or vice versa. I
am only 20 so i dont have a massive amount of experience but i have been
working on most of this stuff within MS for the previous year...
>
> Thanks for the feedback guys!





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Old 05-12-2004, 03:01 PM   #7
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Im still doing my degree Neil, but am currently working for the enemy that is Microsoft. Im interested in the General Networking side of things and have registered to do begin a CCNP at nights in september. I would like to head down the cisco route as they seem to be the only people making decent money in this bleak era..

Id be interested to chat to you... is my messenger email address. Change the hotmale to hotmail... goddamn spammers... GRRRRRR


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