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      01-14-2007
I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to look
for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize the
increased capabilities of the drive.
the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
Controller-27C0
intel processor 920 D
1024Mb-ram
nvidia 6600GT-video
 
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John Barnes
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      01-14-2007
In Device Manager look for the hard drive controller, and install the
drivers from there. It would normally be in Other Devices / Unknown device.

"_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in message
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>I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to
>look
> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize
> the
> increased capabilities of the drive.
> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
> Controller-27C0
> intel processor 920 D
> 1024Mb-ram
> nvidia 6600GT-video


 
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Tony Sperling
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      01-14-2007
SATA isn't really SCSI on it's own, it's a convenient way for the OS to set
it up. You shouldn't have to tell the OS anything, as far as I can say. The
only two interfaces you have for making adjustments that I can see, would be
the BIOS and the the RAID manager (if you were to do anything of that) +
perhaps your choice of driver(s).


Tony. . .


"_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in message
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> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to

look
> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize

the
> increased capabilities of the drive.
> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
> Controller-27C0
> intel processor 920 D
> 1024Mb-ram
> nvidia 6600GT-video



 
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John Barnes
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      01-14-2007
You are right, Tony, I didn't look at the subject and with an nForce chip
they don't show as SCSI. One other place to adjust is the firmware if the
SATAII isn't providing all the functions. My Hitachi has a firmware program
to change settings (i.e. from SATA speed to SATAII speed + others) on my
Samsung, it is a switch on the drive.

"Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
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> SATA isn't really SCSI on it's own, it's a convenient way for the OS to
> set
> it up. You shouldn't have to tell the OS anything, as far as I can say.
> The
> only two interfaces you have for making adjustments that I can see, would
> be
> the BIOS and the the RAID manager (if you were to do anything of that) +
> perhaps your choice of driver(s).
>
>
> Tony. . .
>
>
> "_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in message
> news:36D76939-27AF-4B23-A726-...
>> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to

> look
>> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize

> the
>> increased capabilities of the drive.
>> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
>> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
>> Controller-27C0
>> intel processor 920 D
>> 1024Mb-ram
>> nvidia 6600GT-video

>
>


 
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      01-14-2007
ooops, MSI 945g series mb

"_heavenshelp1" wrote:

> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to look
> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize the
> increased capabilities of the drive.
> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
> Controller-27C0
> intel processor 920 D
> 1024Mb-ram
> nvidia 6600GT-video

 
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John Barnes
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      01-14-2007
No. Just adding other suggestions to Tony's. I am unfamiliar with the
drive. I pointed out two other ways that SATAII drives have of adding
functionality. I don't understand the specifics of what features you feel
you are lacking.


"_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in message
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> So your saying just go into bios a make the adjustment there.
>
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> You are right, Tony, I didn't look at the subject and with an nForce chip
>> they don't show as SCSI. One other place to adjust is the firmware if
>> the
>> SATAII isn't providing all the functions. My Hitachi has a firmware
>> program
>> to change settings (i.e. from SATA speed to SATAII speed + others) on my
>> Samsung, it is a switch on the drive.
>>
>> "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
>> news:%23yxKZG%...
>> > SATA isn't really SCSI on it's own, it's a convenient way for the OS to
>> > set
>> > it up. You shouldn't have to tell the OS anything, as far as I can say.
>> > The
>> > only two interfaces you have for making adjustments that I can see,
>> > would
>> > be
>> > the BIOS and the the RAID manager (if you were to do anything of that)
>> > +
>> > perhaps your choice of driver(s).
>> >
>> >
>> > Tony. . .
>> >
>> >
>> > "_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:36D76939-27AF-4B23-A726-...
>> >> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win
>> >> to
>> > look
>> >> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will
>> >> reconize
>> > the
>> >> increased capabilities of the drive.
>> >> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
>> >> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
>> >> Controller-27C0
>> >> intel processor 920 D
>> >> 1024Mb-ram
>> >> nvidia 6600GT-video
>> >
>> >

>>
>>


 
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Tony Sperling
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      01-14-2007
Yes, I too am unfamiliar with that specific gear. Have a look in your manual
that came with the board, it should describe the chipset and the SATA
interface, once you're over the hurdles of 'Far East English', the
technicalities are usually quite good and precise. The HD shouldn't have any
impact, I think.


Tony. . .


"_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in message
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> So your saying just go into bios a make the adjustment there.
>
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
> > You are right, Tony, I didn't look at the subject and with an nForce

chip
> > they don't show as SCSI. One other place to adjust is the firmware if

the
> > SATAII isn't providing all the functions. My Hitachi has a firmware

program
> > to change settings (i.e. from SATA speed to SATAII speed + others) on my
> > Samsung, it is a switch on the drive.
> >
> > "Tony Sperling" <> wrote in message
> > news:%23yxKZG%...
> > > SATA isn't really SCSI on it's own, it's a convenient way for the OS

to
> > > set
> > > it up. You shouldn't have to tell the OS anything, as far as I can

say.
> > > The
> > > only two interfaces you have for making adjustments that I can see,

would
> > > be
> > > the BIOS and the the RAID manager (if you were to do anything of that)

+
> > > perhaps your choice of driver(s).
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony. . .
> > >
> > >
> > > "_heavenshelp1" <> wrote in

message
> > > news:36D76939-27AF-4B23-A726-...
> > >> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win

to
> > > look
> > >> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will

reconize
> > > the
> > >> increased capabilities of the drive.
> > >> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
> > >> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
> > >> Controller-27C0
> > >> intel processor 920 D
> > >> 1024Mb-ram
> > >> nvidia 6600GT-video
> > >
> > >

> >
> >



 
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      01-15-2007
_heavenshelp1 wrote:
> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to look
> for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize the
> increased capabilities of the drive.
> the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
> Controller-27C0
> intel processor 920 D
> 1024Mb-ram
> nvidia 6600GT-video



ATA used to be IDE or an IDE standard. Im pretty sure it still is.


Also Windows should pickup the harddrive from the BIOS. You should not
have to set anything up as far as the harddrive goes in Windows. The
BIOS should "autodetect" the harrdrive....


 
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      01-15-2007
ATA is a standard, but there are 2 versions - Serial ATA and
Parallel ATA. Parallel ATA (PATA) is the old IDE. Serial
ATA (SATA) is the new kid in town for about the last 3 - 4
years.

Windows will pick up PATA drives and most SATA drives.
However, depending on the MB BIOS, the SATA drives might be
either straight SATA drives or they may be in a RAID
configuration. If the BIOS has a SATA option, Windows can
recognize most of the configurations. If RAID is selected
in the BIOS, then most of the time an additional storage
driver is required during set-up (F6 in Win XP) regardless
of how the SATA drives are configured; i.e. RAID or non-RAID.


RR wrote:
> _heavenshelp1 wrote:
>> I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win
>> to look for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys
>> will reconize the increased capabilities of the drive. the drive
>> is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
>> controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
>> Controller-27C0
>> intel processor 920 D
>> 1024Mb-ram
>> nvidia 6600GT-video

>
>
> ATA used to be IDE or an IDE standard. Im pretty sure it still is.
>
>
> Also Windows should pickup the harddrive from the BIOS. You should not
> have to set anything up as far as the harddrive goes in Windows. The
> BIOS should "autodetect" the harrdrive....
>
>

 
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Tony Sperling
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      01-15-2007
Yes, SATA is very much an IDE extension until you supply a driver (drivers
being tied to specific OS's) usually then, the OS hooks it up with the SCSI
subsystem, I don't know why this is done, but the same thing happens with
CD/DVD burners, they too become SCSI, as seen from the OS - while the
ordinary CD/DVD Rom part (of the same device!) stays IDE (if it all isn't
SCSI to begin with, of course), I imagine that it is simply one convenient
way to do it, and Linux does it too.


There is one complication to this, though. After the driver is in place the
knowledge of it ties back to the BIOS somehow, so now here too, it is seen
as a SCSI drive and enumerated long after the IDE drives. This interferes
with dual-booting mixed IDE/SATA on some (earlier?) motherboards, and the
basics of it all is usually hidden away behind a SATA configuration item
inside the BIOS.

It occurs to me that the idea of tweaking the system for maximum theoretical
speed may have relation to the physical SATA connectors on the board. Modern
motherboards often have up to six (or more) SATA connectors, the efficiency
may have relation to what connectors are used and/or in what order they are
being utilized? As I said, I don't know the board. My Asus has SATA
implemented by two different chips with separate connectors, and I believe
the two have different performance?

The manual will be the natural source of information.


Tony. . .


"RR" <> wrote in message
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> _heavenshelp1 wrote:
> > I made a flub while installing the hd in win xp x64.I didnt tell win to

look
> > for scsi device. Is there a way to correct this so the sys will reconize

the
> > increased capabilities of the drive.
> > the drive is.... WDC WD160JS-22MHBO
> > controller is...intel(R) 82801GB/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage
> > Controller-27C0
> > intel processor 920 D
> > 1024Mb-ram
> > nvidia 6600GT-video

>
>
> ATA used to be IDE or an IDE standard. Im pretty sure it still is.
>
>
> Also Windows should pickup the harddrive from the BIOS. You should not
> have to set anything up as far as the harddrive goes in Windows. The
> BIOS should "autodetect" the harrdrive....
>
>



 
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