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Mark Gillespie
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      08-10-2006
Every time I have tried to do a repair install on x64, it always hangs at
"Installing Devices", it's not a lockup, as the info screens change, and
the pulser keeps moving, and the caps lock works. It just never proceeds
past this stage. Have left one PC doing this 12 hours.

I have seen this on 3 seperate x64 machines now. Wonder if anyone else
has seen it. I have a suspicion that it may be related to NVida graphics
cards/drivers.

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John Barnes
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      08-10-2006
Based on the problems we have seen here, it would seem more likely to be USB
devices if you have any connected.

"Mark Gillespie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Every time I have tried to do a repair install on x64, it always hangs at
> "Installing Devices", it's not a lockup, as the info screens change, and
> the pulser keeps moving, and the caps lock works. It just never proceeds
> past this stage. Have left one PC doing this 12 hours.
>
> I have seen this on 3 seperate x64 machines now. Wonder if anyone else
> has seen it. I have a suspicion that it may be related to NVida graphics
> cards/drivers.
>
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      08-11-2006
Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device. First
rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers, USB
drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.

I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.


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Mark Gillespie wrote:
> Every time I have tried to do a repair install on x64, it always hangs at
> "Installing Devices", it's not a lockup, as the info screens change, and
> the pulser keeps moving, and the caps lock works. It just never proceeds
> past this stage. Have left one PC doing this 12 hours.
>
> I have seen this on 3 seperate x64 machines now. Wonder if anyone else
> has seen it. I have a suspicion that it may be related to NVida graphics
> cards/drivers.



 
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mark.gillespie@gmail.com
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      08-11-2006

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:

> Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device. First
> rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers, USB
> drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.
>
> I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.
>
>
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> http://msmvps.com/xperts64


Hmm, there is another report of the same problem here:

http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversi...hp/t23813.html

Also seems Nvidia based. The other thing I notice, is the same point
where it stops doing a repair, when doing a clean install (which
works), is then it installs the video driver, and the screen blanks..
I am convinced it a generic video problem, or a problem specific to
NVidia cards...

 
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John Barnes
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      08-11-2006
Delete the video driver before you start the process. If it comes up with
the generic driver you will narrow the problem down.

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> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>
>> Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device.
>> First
>> rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers,
>> USB
>> drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.
>>
>> I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>
> Hmm, there is another report of the same problem here:
>
> http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversi...hp/t23813.html
>
> Also seems Nvidia based. The other thing I notice, is the same point
> where it stops doing a repair, when doing a clean install (which
> works), is then it installs the video driver, and the screen blanks..
> I am convinced it a generic video problem, or a problem specific to
> NVidia cards...
>



 
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John Barnes
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      08-11-2006
You should find it in add/remove programs for the nVidia drivers.

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> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
>
>> Anything is possible with Nvidia, but more likely to be a USB device.
>> First
>> rule of installs is to remove all USB devices, especially card readers,
>> USB
>> drives, etc. Keyboard and mouse aren't a problem.
>>
>> I'd do the same with Firewire too, btw.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>
> Hmm, there is another report of the same problem here:
>
> http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversi...hp/t23813.html
>
> Also seems Nvidia based. The other thing I notice, is the same point
> where it stops doing a repair, when doing a clean install (which
> works), is then it installs the video driver, and the screen blanks..
> I am convinced it a generic video problem, or a problem specific to
> NVidia cards...
>



 
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Mark Gillespie
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      08-11-2006
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:11:13 +0100, John Barnes <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Delete the video driver before you start the process. If it comes up
> with
> the generic driver you will narrow the problem down.


The problem is, it's repair install, so the original installation will not
boot. So the only thing you can really do, is acess files from the
Recovery Console. I did try deleting the nv4.inf and nv4.pnf files from
the recovery console but it did not help. In the end, I gave up, as i'd
wasted a whole evening trying to repair my AMD64 system to it would boot
my new Intel Core 2 Duo. I did a clean install...


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John Barnes
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      08-11-2006
Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as you
would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.

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> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:11:13 +0100, John Barnes <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Delete the video driver before you start the process. If it comes up
>> with
>> the generic driver you will narrow the problem down.

>
> The problem is, it's repair install, so the original installation will not
> boot. So the only thing you can really do, is acess files from the
> Recovery Console. I did try deleting the nv4.inf and nv4.pnf files from
> the recovery console but it did not help. In the end, I gave up, as i'd
> wasted a whole evening trying to repair my AMD64 system to it would boot
> my new Intel Core 2 Duo. I did a clean install...
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      08-11-2006
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:53:33 +0100, John Barnes <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as
> you
> would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.


It's actually the OEM version I have, from the Tecnology Advance Program,
lasy year. It's not a new system however, it's just a new motherboard,
cpu, memory. The licence stays with this system, and the old bits we
sold without any Windows licence. I'm pretty sure Microsoft's legal mumbo
jumbo regarding transferring of OEM software do not apply under European
law, as I recall there was a case that Microsoft lost on this issue.

Perhaps someone can clarify, does OEM version of x64, mean that you cannot
upgrade components? At which stage do components being replaced, turn
into a system being replaced...


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John Barnes
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      08-11-2006
If you drill down thru the Microsoft licenses you end up with the mobo being
the key. Charlie has opined that the case was a good choice as the COA is
attached thereto. Personally, if Microsoft lets you activate, it seems like
they concur with the installation.


"Mark Gillespie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:53:33 +0100, John Barnes <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Guess this is where you are glad you have the academic version of x64 as
>> you
>> would not be legal to install the OEM version on the 'new' system.

>
> It's actually the OEM version I have, from the Tecnology Advance Program,
> lasy year. It's not a new system however, it's just a new motherboard,
> cpu, memory. The licence stays with this system, and the old bits we
> sold without any Windows licence. I'm pretty sure Microsoft's legal mumbo
> jumbo regarding transferring of OEM software do not apply under European
> law, as I recall there was a case that Microsoft lost on this issue.
>
> Perhaps someone can clarify, does OEM version of x64, mean that you cannot
> upgrade components? At which stage do components being replaced, turn
> into a system being replaced...
>
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